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Isolating Within Isolation

It could be a lonely experience. Players and staffers are not allowed to visit each other’s hotel rooms. They can use the pools, trails, and golf courses on campus, and can socialize in their hotels’ “players’ lounges”—but not without restrictions. No doubles in ping-pong (I would like to see who enforces this and how). No using the same pack of cards twice. It’s oddly specific given the league is also allowing its players to play in enclosed gyms without masks, breathe on each other, touch the same ball, yell to their teammates, and speak in huddles. (Did you know that speaking loudly for one minute can emit more than 1,000 virus-containing droplets, and those droplets can travel beyond 6 feet?)

It’s very clear the NBA wants this to be fun—or to distract its players from the fact that it’s not fun at all. The league is planning on providing movie screenings, DJ sets, three freshly prepared meals a day (four on game days!), boating, bowling, fishing, golf, and the availability of barbers, manicurists, pedicurists, and hair braiders. A “limited number” of players can also attend other teams’ games along with media, executives, league and union personnel, and “even some sponsors.” From a safety perspective, inviting sponsors raises issues (the protocol says they’ll have no direct contact with players or teams); from a monetary standpoint, it’s another way to mitigate the losses already suffered from a postponed season. (That could be repeated for much of this entire endeavor.)

The protocol also says that while the players are at Disney, they will not be tested for recreational drugs. (Performance-enhancing drugs and masking agents, yes; the fun stuff, no.) Players were “advised” that Florida has not legalized marijuana use.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/22/21298581/nba-safety-disney-world-campus-guidelines
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Isolating Within Isolation

It could be a lonely experience. Players and staffers are not allowed to visit each other’s hotel rooms. They can use the pools, trails, and golf courses on campus, and can socialize in their hotels’ “players’ lounges”—but not without restrictions. No doubles in ping-pong (I would like to see who enforces this and how). No using the same pack of cards twice. It’s oddly specific given the league is also allowing its players to play in enclosed gyms without masks, breathe on each other, touch the same ball, yell to their teammates, and speak in huddles. (Did you know that speaking loudly for one minute can emit more than 1,000 virus-containing droplets, and those droplets can travel beyond 6 feet?)

It’s very clear the NBA wants this to be fun—or to distract its players from the fact that it’s not fun at all. The league is planning on providing movie screenings, DJ sets, three freshly prepared meals a day (four on game days!), boating, bowling, fishing, golf, and the availability of barbers, manicurists, pedicurists, and hair braiders. A “limited number” of players can also attend other teams’ games along with media, executives, league and union personnel, and “even some sponsors.” From a safety perspective, inviting sponsors raises issues (the protocol says they’ll have no direct contact with players or teams); from a monetary standpoint, it’s another way to mitigate the losses already suffered from a postponed season. (That could be repeated for much of this entire endeavor.)

The protocol also says that while the players are at Disney, they will not be tested for recreational drugs. (Performance-enhancing drugs and masking agents, yes; the fun stuff, no.) Players were “advised” that Florida has not legalized marijuana use.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/22/21298581/nba-safety-disney-world-campus-guidelines
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The other issue with prohibiting players from leaving campus is that other people—namely, Disney employees—will be allowed to come and go each day. As of now, they will not be tested daily beyond temperature checks, either, although some players have voiced concerns

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Players will dress at their hotels, then go to the arena, and will go back to their hotels to shower afterwards.


Everybody is required to wear masks indoors at all times unless they’re eating, alone in their room, playing, or working out.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/6/22/21298581/nba-safety-disney-world-campus-guidelines
 
KSF-ERIC said:
They are expecting people to test positive. Once that happens, that player is self-isolated for 7 days and play resumes without him.
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It's just weird to me?
Yesterday one of my students called in sick. If he gets tested and comes back positive our entire school is shut down. Just because the NBA wants to call this a "Bubble" it isn't a bubble. They can test them all they want right now. What matters is the day or two before they go and every person they come into contact with while there. How can they offer Haircuts, Manicures, Food preparation and all the rest without exposing them to this virus? Not to mention actually playing basketball games.
This has the potential to be a marketing nightmare for the league. Why on earth would they actually take that chance? I can just see it. They start the tournament and after a week they get between 10-20 positive players and have to shut it all down. Then because the virus doesn't actually become detectable within the fist week they end up with players going home and infecting their families. What an absolute travesty this would be if people actually died because the NBA wanted to make some money on a season that would have a huge asterisk by it if it ever gets completed anyway.
This whole thing just doesn't make sense?
 
Tell me these guys are going to be making their own beds and doing their own laundry. Cooking for themselves? Cleaning their own toilets?
Yep totally in a bubble.
 
The teams who are having players get sick right now may turn out to be the lucky ones.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
You know they won't actually be in a real bubble, right?
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it's too bad because having 10 of these guys running around a basketball court would be really entertaining:

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would Zach be less likely to be in foul trouble playing in a bubble?

could they make Reggie Miller's bubble sound-proof?

how 'freaky' would a Greek bubble be?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
The teams who are having players get sick right now may turn out to be the lucky ones.
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sure

and if it's the NBA finals, a star getting Covid, inside that bubble, could determine the champion

I'd also be concerned about how well the players have done at keeping in shape. It's going to be a real short 'training camp' with no exhibition games. It's also likely to be a lot of games front-loaded. Seems like there could be plenty of injuries, both minor and major
 
* has there been any release yet of tentative schedules? Speaking of which, will each day's results determine the future schedule in that 8 game regular season?

* has there been any info on game times? Seems like there could be a lot of games to start with in that regular season. I'm wondering because a 1pm start time in Orlando would be 10am here

* the rules for the "play-in" tournament and the battle for 8th seed confuse me a little (which doesn't take much). Anybody have insight?

* is the seeding weighted? By that I mean, do the top 4 teams in each conference (for example) have a margin of error greater than the teams fighting to get in? In other words, will the high seeded teams be 'forgiven' for some unexpected losses that could drop them from a #1 seed to a #5 seed otherwise?
 
wizenheimer said:
* has there been any release yet of tentative schedules? Speaking of which, will each day's results determine the future schedule in that 8 game regular season?

* has there been any info on game times? Seems like there could be a lot of games to start with in that regular season. I'm wondering because a 1pm start time in Orlando would be 10am here

* the rules for the "play-in" tournament and the battle for 8th seed confuse me a little (which doesn't take much). Anybody have insight?

* is the seeding weighted? By that I mean, do the top 4 teams in each conference (for example) have a margin of error greater than the teams fighting to get in? In other words, will the high seeded teams be 'forgiven' for some unexpected losses that could drop them from a #1 seed to a #5 seed otherwise?
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I think there are a lot of details still being worked out by the league, but this Forbes article gives a pretty good synopsis of what has been made public:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...-odds-news-on-basketballs-return-to-play/amp/
 
kjironman1 said:
Tell me these guys are going to be making their own beds and doing their own laundry. Cooking for themselves? Cleaning their own toilets?
Yep totally in a bubble.
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They said that housekeeping would be once a week.
 
illmatic99 said:
They said that housekeeping would be once a week.
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And they will have to dump their own garbage. I know it sounds simple but you do see where i'm going with this right?
It ain't gonna be a "Bubble". They have called it that so people believe it's going to be secure. Not gonna happen.
Back to my original statement.
"I think they will have to rethink this...."
I most certainly could be wrong. They might do it anyway.
If this fails it will be a marketing NIGHTMARE.
 
kjironman1 said:
It's just weird to me?
Yesterday one of my students called in sick. If he gets tested and comes back positive our entire school is shut down. Just because the NBA wants to call this a "Bubble" it isn't a bubble. They can test them all they want right now. What matters is the day or two before they go and every person they come into contact with while there. How can they offer Haircuts, Manicures, Food preparation and all the rest without exposing them to this virus? Not to mention actually playing basketball games.
This has the potential to be a marketing nightmare for the league. Why on earth would they actually take that chance? I can just see it. They start the tournament and after a week they get between 10-20 positive players and have to shut it all down. Then because the virus doesn't actually become detectable within the fist week they end up with players going home and infecting their families. What an absolute travesty this would be if people actually died because the NBA wanted to make some money on a season that would have a huge asterisk by it if it ever gets completed anyway.
This whole thing just doesn't make sense?
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I dont think the NBA is going to cause an uptick in death toll, even if what you say might happen actually happens. Itll be safer for the players (and especially their families) in the bubble than it is for them now, even if someone somehow gets infected in the bubble.
 
BonesJones said:
I dont think the NBA is going to cause an uptick in death toll, even if what you say might happen actually happens. Itll be safer for the players (and especially their families) in the bubble than it is for them now, even if someone somehow gets infected in the bubble.
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Probably not. It is only a very few people in the big picture.
If they handle it well it could be fine. But if this goes bad? Could go really really bad.

And i miss the Blazers. So the selfish side of me wants to see it happen.
 
kjironman1 said:
And they will have to dump their own garbage. I know it sounds simple but you do see where i'm going with this right?
It ain't gonna be a "Bubble". They have called it that so people believe it's going to be secure. Not gonna happen.
Back to my original statement.
"I think they will have to rethink this...."
I most certainly could be wrong. They might do it anyway.
If this fails it will be a marketing NIGHTMARE.
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In the assisted living facilities, you can put your garbage bag outside in the hallway. Food is brought and left outside your door. There is no reason the players could not clean their own rooms and change their own linen. They could have designated times when players could use the hallways and elevators and other designated times for staff.
 
kjironman1 said:
And they will have to dump their own garbage. I know it sounds simple but you do see where i'm going with this right?
It ain't gonna be a "Bubble". They have called it that so people believe it's going to be secure. Not gonna happen.
Back to my original statement.
"I think they will have to rethink this...."
I most certainly could be wrong. They might do it anyway.
If this fails it will be a marketing NIGHTMARE.
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I've been maintaining that this will not happen.
 
BigGameDamian said:
So in Florida when the NBA players are in this bubble playing you don't think they'll be anymore infections?
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Nope. They expect infections but those people will be quarantined. Why else are they testing everyday?
 
wizenheimer said:
* has there been any release yet of tentative schedules? Speaking of which, will each day's results determine the future schedule in that 8 game regular season?

* has there been any info on game times? Seems like there could be a lot of games to start with in that regular season. I'm wondering because a 1pm start time in Orlando would be 10am here

* the rules for the "play-in" tournament and the battle for 8th seed confuse me a little (which doesn't take much). Anybody have insight?

* is the seeding weighted? By that I mean, do the top 4 teams in each conference (for example) have a margin of error greater than the teams fighting to get in? In other words, will the high seeded teams be 'forgiven' for some unexpected losses that could drop them from a #1 seed to a #5 seed otherwise?
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Games start at 8:30am PST.
 
wizenheimer said:
sure

and if it's the NBA finals, a star getting Covid, inside that bubble, could determine the champion

I'd also be concerned about how well the players have done at keeping in shape. It's going to be a real short 'training camp' with no exhibition games. It's also likely to be a lot of games front-loaded. Seems like there could be plenty of injuries, both minor and major
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Injuries have decided the last 5 champions. How is it different than that?
 
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