The reviewed out of bounds call in 4th Qtr

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Looked pretty damn close to me, so....

Tie goes to the team thats playing its ass off and making a miraculous comeback.
 
I had 9 different angles to look at super-slo mo. I honestly couldn't tell one way or the other. Would have been cool with the refs decision either way.

I had 10 different angles to look at super slo-mo, and I can honestly tell you that the 10th angle confirmed it was obviously off Tyson Chandler. Great call by Steve Javie.
 
That was a huge call. And I agree with the OP, the replay didn't show overwhelming evidence that Chandler hit it out. The call on the court was Dallas' ball, so it should have been Dallas' ball. Huge break for us.

So right before the call went to review, Javie seemed to correct the other official and point ("possession is this direction" style) in Portland's favor. I wonder if, to our lead official and nobody else, the call on the floor was actually Portland ball, and there was nothing to overturn it. Maybe TNT and Comcst and Mark Mason got the call on the floor wrong.
 
Let me first say that reffing isn't why Portland got down by 23, nor is it why Dallas lost their lead and eventually the game.

I don't think that was a great call, BUT they do get better views than we do, and maybe they saw a better angle. I don't know.

That call might've helped momentum stay on Portland's side, but you'd be far fetched to say that the other 25 points they scored over Dallas (since the 23 point lead) had a lot to do with anything but Dallas playing prevent offense. Portland has had similar games where they have a size able lead stop being aggressive and coast. That is what Dallas did for the most part. Sure there might've been some questionable calls that the Blazers benefited from, but this loss falls squarely on the Mavs shoulders.
 
Hey, aren't you a Laker fan? Seriously, a laker fan bitching about the officials. The refs GAVE you the 2002 championship by fixing the Kings series. And you could make a strong argument for your other titles as well.

Please, STFU.

* Three Cheat Dynasty


The Kings are the real 2002 champions.
 
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Yes us groupthink Lakers fans...Im not allowed to ask for higher quality refereeing in the only sport I really care about....please......stop being a broken record
 
In re-watching the game, I paid more attention to the replays of it. I think it was ultimately inconclusive who touched it last. Wallace had two hands on it and Chandler slapped it out and out of bounds. It was impossible to tell who's hand was on it last.

But basketball replay doesn't have the same rule as football replay: that there must be indisputable evidence to overturn. As far as I know, it's basically a second chance to make the call and the ruling on the floor no longer matters at that point. Whatever they decide in watching the replay is what matters. It was a call that could have gone either way and it went Portland's way. There were plenty of poor calls in the game that went each way...I don't think that was a bad call, just a fifty-fifty call that Portland got the benefit of.
 
If it was inconclusive, it should have stayed Mavs ball. But the refs must have seen something or an angle that we didn't see to believe that it should have been overturned.
 
I really liked this analysis of several game 4 calls from "refcalls":

[video=youtube;WWip72wS7WU]

I disagree with their conclusion on the Wallace-Nowitzki charge call, but otherwise, I think they do a pretty good job in this.
 
I thought it was fifty-fifty at best and there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call ... but I'm pretty sure it was in the script for Hulk Hogan to break out of Andre the Giant's sleeper hold at that point in the match, so what can you do?
 
I agree. I was probably the right call, but since they called it Dallas ball on the floor, I think they should have kept it that way because of the lack of hard proof
 
looking at the out of bounds play, someone blows a whistle before it even goes out of bounds, probably to call a loose ball foul on chandler. then some asshat ref calls dallas ball....so he then decides with his bros to just award the ball to portland instead. boom.

yeah the whistle definitely blows before the ball hits out of bounds.
 
On the vid posted by Perry, you can see that Chandler's right ring finger touched the ball last.
 
I thought it was fifty-fifty at best and there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call

That's only the rule in football, not basketball, that the call at the time matters and only overwhelming evidence should overturn. My understanding is that in the NBA, if they review it, the original call is wiped away and they're making an entirely new call. So there is no issue of "not enough evidence to overturn."
 
If Cuban isnt crying about the call, then it must have been the right call. If it was even questionable, he'd be crying like a baby.
 
If Cuban isnt crying about the call, then it must have been the right call. If it was even questionable, he'd be crying like a baby.

In all fairness, he was hooked up to an IV and was on life support on the closing minute of the game. I think the "OMG is this really happening" set in and he wasn't thinking about anything but "Here we go again!"
 
Wow... after looking at this now... the correct call should have been foul on Chandler. =) Usually when you see that happen if they don't call the foul they give the ball to the team with inside position regardless.
 

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