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The 99% complain they can't get theirs, so they don't want the 1% to get theirs either.
 
The 1% has no problem getting theirs

They will still be rich no matter who is in office
 
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RoyToy said:
They sure do have it bad.
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I don't care how they have it. They have a Natural Right to pursue happiness. As long as they're not stealing it, I don't have any problem with what they might earn.
 
That's some good stuff right there Denny

The 1% is fine. Saying otherwise seems pretty silly. They have it good.
 
This is absolutely being vindictive, a shallowly hidden temper tantrum. The economy is projected to grow by 12million jobs regardless of who was elected. Romney planned to raise the military budget by 2.1 trillion. The tax "plan" Romney laid forth was laughable, the math did not come close to working out as he promised. If you wanted a true economic president you needed look elsewhere.
 
basically, business owners dont want to pay for healthcare for their employees, im dealing with it myself to an extent, but it is what it is
 
RoyToy said:
That's some good stuff right there Denny

The 1% is fine. Saying otherwise seems pretty silly. They have it good.
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So does Damien Lillard. He can dribble and shoot a lot better than I do. I'm not jealous of him, either.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
basically, business owners dont want to pay for healthcare for their employees, im dealing with it myself to an extent, but it is what it is
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its a combination of a lot of factors

3.5% tax on property income, thats not on profit but on income

taxes of every kind going up

etc etc etc

guys that were sqeeking by on thin margins in this weak econemy have an easy call, guys that were sitting their monies, well they have no reason to jump in until things hit bottom
 
Pokemanzdood said:
This is absolutely being vindictive, a shallowly hidden temper tantrum. The economy is projected to grow by 12million jobs regardless of who was elected. Romney planned to raise the military budget by 2.1 trillion. The tax "plan" Romney laid forth was laughable, the math did not come close to working out as he promised. If you wanted a true economic president you needed look elsewhere.
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So, quitting is vindictive? What responsibility do I have to provide others jobs?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
basically, business owners dont want to pay for healthcare for their employees, im dealing with it myself to an extent, but it is what it is
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We provided healthcare, but it was less comprehensive than we're now being required.
 
No wonder my boss (owner) was in such a sour mood this morning!! :MARIS61:
 
I don't care if you're into real estate investments or if you sell hot dogs. The fact that any business can make such a dramatic change based on who becomes President speaks for itself.

On the plus side, I'm sure your competitors will be delighted :)
 
maxiep said:
So, quitting is vindictive? What responsibility do I have to provide others jobs?
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Quitting is not, it's how you've come to that decision. There's nothing wrong with saying the return for your time is no longer worth it. But to say that elections have consequences, and to have an "Obama" plan in place is indicative of this being your way to stick it to the man. What you're doing is essentially no different than the employers who told their employees to vote for a particular candidate or be fired.
 
Jesus, can we have a little more whining?
 
TehChad said:
I don't care if you're into real estate investments or if you sell hot dogs. The fact that any business can make such a dramatic change based on who becomes President speaks for itself.

On the plus side, I'm sure your competitors will be delighted :)
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It's not a dramatic change. It's a cycle. We raise a fund, invest it, enhance the properties, sell them and close out the fund. We simply decided that the increased taxes, the massive new regulations and the compliance requirements necessary to continue to work simply didn't make sense for us.

It speaks volumes that government can have such influence that it would cause us to come to this point. My concern is that our story isn't a unique one. If it isn't, good luck to the unemployed.
 
im sure americans will innovate a way to succeed despite these roadblocks
 
Pokemanzdood said:
Quitting is not, it's how you've come to that decision. There's nothing wrong with saying the return for your time is no longer worth it. But to say that elections have consequences, and to have an "Obama" plan in place is indicative of this being your way to stick it to the man. What you're doing is essentially no different than the employers who told their employees to vote for a particular candidate or be fired.
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Because our decision would have been different if Romney would have won. Elections do have consequences. And as I said in the previous post, what does it say to you about how anti-business the Obama Administration is that we would even have such a conversation?

We didn't tell anyone how to vote. We are faced with expenses we choose not to incur. It's that simple.
 
this is just like the ballot measure to force porn actors to wear condoms, putting all of those cameramen and jizz moppers out of work
 
3RA1N1AC said:
im sure americans will innovate a way to succeed despite these roadblocks
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Some will try, and best of luck to them. I hope many succeed. As for me, I've worked my ass off since I was 12. I'm in my early 40s. Enough.
 
In a way--half-joking, half sincere--I'm a little surprised that the CEOs of America didn't rise up as one and lay everyone off at once for letting Obama win. It seems to me that they could very easily hold everyone hostage by simply saying to America "You're fired. If you want your jobs back, demand the repeal of everything we don't like." It's like they don't have the balls to try it, even if they want to secretly. Do you think CEOs do, in their hert of hearts, just wish the workers would quit whinging about health care and be minimum wage already?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
im sure americans will innovate a way to succeed despite these roadblocks
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you are correct, they will adapt with thirty hour work weeks to avoid benifits,temp workers and in some cases pull the plug and invest in other things or over seas
 
I've been unemployed twice in my life for an extended period of time, and yet I never applied for unemployment. I just hated the idea of being part of the "entitlement" crowd. Now, however . . . well, I'm very tempted to find every angle I can to apply for government support and just ride this gravy train as far as it will take me. I'm tired of paying taxes so other people can sit on their butts. I'm tired of fighting for a style of government that most Americans don't seem to want. If this is the new America, I may as well join it. I think it's absurd and unrealistic and will never last, but you can't swim upstream forever.
 
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