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STOMP said:
I favored Jalen Duren over Sochan and still do. One difference between the two then prospects is Portland could have had both Duren and Sharpe as JD was acquired by Detroit using the future pick Portland had dealt to them for Grant.

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I felt that using our highest pick was important for the overall future of the team. And using the other was important for helping Dame win now.
Do we try that again this year? A case can be made either way. Of course, it will come down to who is available in a trade or in the draft.
 
STOMP said:
I favored Jalen Duren over Sochan and still do. One difference between the two then prospects is Portland could have had both Duren and Sharpe as JD was acquired by Detroit using the future pick Portland had dealt to them for Grant.
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That was my dream draft when Duren and Sochan were both projected late lottery, trading down to nab both. As it turned out, Sochan's stock shot up and we would have had to overreach to get him, but Duren dropped and was very undervalued on draft day.

I can't be too unhappy with how little it ended up taking to acquire Grant, but having Duren for the same price sure would have been nice.
 
STOMP said:
I favored Jalen Duren over Sochan and still do. One difference between the two then prospects is Portland could have had both Duren and Sharpe as JD was acquired by Detroit using the future pick Portland had dealt to them for Grant.

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If Grant leaves for nothing, I think we will have massive buyers remorse about not drafting Duren.
 
Ahem.

Nothing being discussed here now has anything to do with Sharpe doing some crazy shit.

Quit teasing…
 
Natebishop3 said:
If Grant leaves for nothing, I think we will have massive buyers remorse about not drafting Duren.
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Of course, but that's a calculated risk. You know what you say, you are not going to win any of the chances you do not take...
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I felt that using our highest pick was important for the overall future of the team. And using the other was important for helping Dame win now. Do we try that again this year?
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To me, winning now means at least some sort of claim of contending & last offseason I viewed the team as more then a borderline AS forward away from that. I like/liked Grant and have advocated for his abilities in many threads. At the same time I pointed to the lack of talent and Dame's timeline. Last offseason there was no reasonable path forward to winning now in 2022-23. Other then winning the draft lotto, I don't see them winning now next year either. If they draft and develop really well the next couple seasons & Dame stays healthy, maybe they're reaching contender status by 2024-25. At that point Shaedon and Duren would be 21 while Grant 31.

Last oddseason was a time to plant seed(s) for the future... I was for a roster overhaul including painful decisions for the 2022-3 team like not resigning Nurk. If they hadn't, and they'd have moved the Milwaukee 2024 1st for Duren, they could have conceivable used the Nurk savings to sign UFA Jerimi Grant this next offseason! I view this next offseason as best served with future moves as well... draft capitol should be spent on the draft not on 30-somethings. If I was calling the shots, the 2024 offseason is when I'd hope to be in position to push the chips to the middle on win now moves.

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Nice article from Sean Highkin about Sharpe.

"He's playing so much harder now than he was early in the season," Billups said. "And I think it was mostly just being familiar. Now, he knows where the rotations are supposed to be, so he can rotate harder. Whereas early on, he's not rotating as fast, because he's confused about where he's supposed to go. He's understanding better, which I think has picked up his confidence."

https://www.rosegardenreport.com/p/game-slowing-shaedon-sharpe
 
Natebishop3 said:
Nice article from Sean Highkin about Sharpe.

"He's playing so much harder now than he was early in the season," Billups said. "And I think it was mostly just being familiar. Now, he knows where the rotations are supposed to be, so he can rotate harder. Whereas early on, he's not rotating as fast, because he's confused about where he's supposed to go. He's understanding better, which I think has picked up his confidence."

https://www.rosegardenreport.com/p/game-slowing-shaedon-sharpe
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That's what playing time does Chauncey.
 
I legitimately can not wait for Portland to trade this future star this off season for a borderline all star big so Dame can make it to the first round. This place will lose its collective shit…rightfully so
 
Mediocre Man said:
I legitimately can not wait for Portland to trade this future star this off season for a borderline all star big so Dame can make it to the first round. This place will lose its collective shit…rightfully so
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OK, you're giving off mixed signals here. My conclusion is that you love the Blazers but you love watching Blazer fans suffer more.

Got to say that Sharpe still hasn't convinced me. Love the dunks but can he play? Getting serious Andrew Wiggins before he learned how to play a bit of defense vibes - very good shooter, amazing leaper, not really a basketball player.

I'd certainly trade him if it brought back the right player, but trouble is the right player wouldn't be available (see the trade I suggested at the start of the season of Anfernee and Sharpe for SGA that everyone on this board hated but that would've been an amazing slam dunk - which is why it never had a chance.)
 
Mediocre Man said:
I legitimately can not wait for Portland to trade this future star this off season for a borderline all star big so Dame can make it to the first round. This place will lose its collective shit…rightfully so
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I honestly think that Joe's plan is to put together a package of Ant, Nurk and multiple firsts for an all star to put with Dame, Shae and Jerami. I think the plan is to build around these three guys. I'd be shocked if we included Shae and our first rounder unless we were getting back a superstar entering their prime... I guess we'll see.
 
Mediocre Man said:
I legitimately can not wait for Portland to trade this future star this off season for a borderline all star big so Dame can make it to the first round. This place will lose its collective shit…rightfully so
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It would seem to be a very Portland thing to do. Would love to see Dame get a title here, but without massive luck (the #1), AND a major player requesting a trade (Embiid, Brown, Siakam, etc), and then some vets coming here on the cheap to ring chase, I don't see it happening in the time frame necessary to get Dame a ring in Portland. I REALLY hope that management doesn't gut the future of young talent and Draft picks, to go after half measures.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
OK, you're giving off mixed signals here. My conclusion is that you love the Blazers but you love watching Blazer fans suffer more.

Got to say that Sharpe still hasn't convinced me. Love the dunks but can he play? Getting serious Andrew Wiggins before he learned how to play a bit of defense vibes - very good shooter, amazing leaper, not really a basketball player.

I'd certainly trade him if it brought back the right player, but trouble is the right player wouldn't be available (see the trade I suggested at the start of the season of Anfernee and Sharpe for SGA that everyone on this board hated but that would've been an amazing slam dunk - which is why it never had a chance.)
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Incorrect, I love the Blazers, but don’t want to see fans suffer, unless those fans are delusional.
 
Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Boston … someone’s gone fishin’ after the 2nd round. If it’s 1st round and done, watch out.
Miami, Brooklyn, Toronto … odds-on 1st round and done.

Shake that tree.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Boston … someone’s gone fishin’ after the 2nd round. If it’s 1st round and done, watch out.
Miami, Brooklyn, Toronto … odds-on 1st round and done.

Shake that tree.
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Yeah, some of these teams with all nba talent are going to get beaten in the first round and if they get beaten badly they'll be looking to shake things up. People keep acting like all nba players don't get moved every off season and just about every off season at least one does. Then some in here say that we're for sure going to get outbid if we do go after a big time talent, like the Thunder on the trajectory they're on would be targeting the same star that we would.

It's cool we've had to deal with a lot of disappointing off seasons for a long time, so I understand why so many in here think this will just be another one but I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
OK, you're giving off mixed signals here. My conclusion is that you love the Blazers but you love watching Blazer fans suffer more.

Got to say that Sharpe still hasn't convinced me. Love the dunks but can he play? Getting serious Andrew Wiggins before he learned how to play a bit of defense vibes - very good shooter, amazing leaper, not really a basketball player.

I'd certainly trade him if it brought back the right player, but trouble is the right player wouldn't be available (see the trade I suggested at the start of the season of Anfernee and Sharpe for SGA that everyone on this board hated but that would've been an amazing slam dunk - which is why it never had a chance.)
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How can you possibly watch him and think all he can do is dunk? He certainly makes rookie mistakes, because he is...... 19. But in another 5 years (SGA's age) how good will he be? I will take my chances.

Now I love SGA...he is a star PG for sure. But a trade like you suggested I assume would be to help Dame win now. But how do we know if two PGs would even work well together? They often do not because they tend to only excel with the ball in their hands.
 
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HoopsFanAZ said:
Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Boston … someone’s gone fishin’ after the 2nd round. If it’s 1st round and done, watch out.
Miami, Brooklyn, Toronto … odds-on 1st round and done.

Shake that tree.
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Exactly right. If the following teams lose in the 2nd round or earlier....and teams seem to like to trade out of their conference.

Bucks - Will likely run it back trying to make some minor upgrades
Celtics - Might look to balance things out. Tatum and Brown at times seem to get in each others way No t much balance with the backcourt.
76'ers - Could be the biggest blowup. If Harden moves on, Embiid may ask out.
Cavs - still in growth mode. More experience and minor moves.
Knicks - Who knows with the Knicks. Likely stuck in mediocrity for a while.
Heat - Could be ripe for a major shake up as they have been up and down since their '20 Finals appearance....but trending in the wrong direction.
Nets - they already blew it up. Would they move Bridges right after getting him?
Hawks - '21 is looking more and more like a fluke.
Raptors - Can't imagine they continue to go on without making some major moves.
Bulls - injuries have decimated that rosters.
 
Obviously a ways to go on both ends, but you can see the potential. Already a threat from '3', if he can improve his handle to create space, he becomes a dual threat. Add to that the additional size and defensive recovery ability on the defensive end, and from an all-around standpoint, he has the ability to be the best backcourt player since Clyde. As important as any of his physical skills, will be the mental maturation. How much alpha does he have in him?
 
Pinwheel1 said:
How can you possibly watch him and think all he can do is dunk? He certainly makes rookie mistakes, because he is...... 19. But in another 5 years (SGA's age) how good will he be? I will take my chances.

Now I love SGA...he is a star PG for sure. But a trade like you suggested I assume would be to help Dame win now. But how do we know if two PGs would even work well together? They often do not because they tend to excel with the ball in their hands.
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Dallas looks fantastic! They lost last night at home to the team with the 4th worst record in the NBA (Charlotte).
Dallas is 2-6 in their last 8 games. Playoff push?
More like tanking since they are not even in the play-in now.
 
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