The steady improvement of Noah Vonleh

[Wizard Mentor]

He still hasn't reached a comfort level yet. When he does, and accommodates a larger role, many fans will think he has "learned to play overnight". As seen from last SL, he can shoot the 3, post up, and defend. Looking forward to him bringing those things to the regular season - it will happen.

For now, he's focusing on defense, which is probably appropriate.

 

[riverman]

Vonleh needs to model his game off of KG

I think he's pure ZBo...got a lot of moves that remind me of Zac Randolph..low center of gravity

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I think he's pure ZBo...got a lot of moves that remind me of Zac Randolph..low center of gravity

Z-Bo is a ball magnet. Crazy under-the-basket offensive moves. Both from day one.

I think Noah is somewhat of a ball magnet, but not on Z-Bo's level, and on the latter above trait, Vonleh has no moves (I think he does, but, really, he has lack of confidence to use them).

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Gotta give Stotts credit for keeping Noah in the lineup.

He was TERRIBLE but showed flashes. Now he is easily the best post defender on the team.

 

[riverman]

Z-Bo is a ball magnet. Crazy under-the-basket offensive moves. Both from day one.

I think Noah is somewhat of a ball magnet, but not on Z-Bo's level, and on the latter above trait, Vonleh has no moves (I think he does, but, really, he has lack of confidence to use them).

I don't think we've even scratched the surface of Noah's offensive skillset. He's really put in the work on defense which will keep him in games. It'll be awhile before the other shooters trust him enough to run the offense through him. Allan Crabbe didn't get to shoot much his first year or two here either

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I think he's pure ZBo...got a lot of moves that remind me of Zac Randolph..low center of gravity

There are NFL lineman with butts smaller than Zbo's. Zbo also has long arms. Vonleh can't compete with those traits, but he can be strong to compensate. So, he doesn't really remind me of Zbo, but he can be effective.

 

[riverman]

I think his lower body is as strong as anyone on the roster...he lacks nothin' in lower core strength from everything I've seen..guy is a rock when he gets set

 

[Orion Bailey]

There are NFL lineman with butts smaller than Zbo's. Zbo also has long arms. Vonleh can't compete with those traits, but he can be strong to compensate. So, he doesn't really remind me of Zbo, but he can be effective.

sbnation shows zbo's wingspan at 6'11" with Vonlehs at 7'3". Im also willing to bet Vonleh's ass is every bit as wide and mack truck thick as Zbo's was at 20.

 

[WillG]

I've been impressed at how easy Noah could get the rim, in this, just his first few handful of games.
I think he has a unique ability to 'get to the rim' with his strength and his spin move (amongst others).

His problem was that he'd rush the finish.
Noah just needs someone like Kaman to show him how to execute patient offensive finishing moves - and some pump fakes.
Really enjoying watching the development of Noah!

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I don't think we've even scratched the surface of Noah's offensive skillset. He's really put in the work on defense which will keep him in games. It'll be awhile before the other shooters trust him enough to run the offense through him. Allan Crabbe didn't get to shoot much his first year or two here either

Agreed we haven't scratched the surface on Vonleh. Z-Bo was buried behind Wallace and other vets on the roster as a rookie. Vonleh, a second-year player, can't hold a candle to Zach's capability to immediately perform at a decent NBA-level ability. Z-Bo came in and forced the issue for minutes, Vonleh's being pushed out there to learn. Vonleh is more athletic and agility, more balance body. Vonleh's offense relies more on receiving dishes and finishing strong one-handed dunks, Z-Bo was more junk-yard style with stats coming from rebounds and put-backs, head up mid-body and up, chicken legs. Vonleh works hard on D, Z-Bo has a "d" in his last name. Vonleh always looks to pass, Z-Bo always looks to shoot. One's quiet, one was talkative. One is from Indy, one is from Michigan. Let's not talk about off-the-court concerns. So really, I see very little comparison. I like Vonleh VERY much, but I'm unclear how similar they really are.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

His problem was that he'd rush the finish!

He should probably consult Sly.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

His base is so strong I think you could start him at center.

 

[riverman]

I look forward to

Agreed we haven't scratched the surface on Vonleh. Z-Bo was buried behind Wallace and other vets on the roster as a rookie. Vonleh, a second-year player, can't hold a candle to Zach's capability to immediately perform at a decent NBA-level ability. Z-Bo came in and forced the issue for minutes, Vonleh's being pushed out there to learn. Vonleh is more athletic and agility, more balance body. Vonleh's offense relies more on receiving dishes and finishing strong one-handed dunks, Z-Bo was more junk-yard style with stats coming from rebounds and put-backs, head up mid-body and up, chicken legs. Vonleh works hard on D, Z-Bo has a "d" in his last name. Vonleh always looks to pass, Z-Bo always looks to shoot. One's quiet, one was talkative. One is from Indy, one is from Michigan. Let's not talk about off-the-court concerns. So really, I see very little comparison. I like Vonleh VERY much, but I'm unclear how similar they really are.

I think they both are bigs that play under the rim..that's one. Vonleh has 3pt range..that's another..wingspan and lower core strength..that's another..I think we'll see more as we go and hopefully Noah will be a quick study..so far, so good

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I kinda think Z-Bo was heavy from bottom of the ass up, Vonleh from top of the ass down.

Have fun with your jokes, assholes.

(Trying to lob you all an easy one, like Mrs. HCP.)

I'm just trying to show another way those two dudes are complete opposites.

 

[PDXFonz]

Wow Tunchi liked the OP! Is the world ending right now?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Wow Tunchi liked the OP! Is the world ending right now?

Keep working your core, and one day, too, Tunchi might like your OP.

 

[riverman]

I always liked OP

 

[PDXFonz]

Keep working your core, and one day, too, Tunchi might like your OP.

Core work is Thursday, every other day is shake weight day.

*Insert jerkoff motion indicating that you are a jerkoff*

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Core work is Thursday, every other day is shake weight day.

*Insert jerkoff motion indicating that you are a jerkoff*

I work my core everyday (with some wine).

And then I spend my time once per year working off the rest of the year.

 

[dviss1]

Vonleh needs to model his game off of KG

On D maybe. But KG was soft as baby wipes On offense.

 

[dviss1]

Vonleh is the reason Myers needs to be filler in a trade.

 

[theprunetang]

Vonleh is the reason Myers needs to be filler in a trade.

We have a winner.

 

[theprunetang]

Vonleh is the reason Myers needs to be filler in a trade.

And I was really rooting for Myers to succeed. I just can't see it anymore. Luckily, vonleh is showing sparks of life.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Vonleh is the reason Myers needs to be filler in a trade.

Yup; Vonleh's defense now is already above Meyers's ceiling.

 

[Trackjack]

Von doing very good job since starting but what I have seen lately he getting more aggressive on offense end maybe not making everything but that all right. Last night you can see him putting all together.

 

[Pinwheel1]

You never know how a 20 year old will turn out in the NBA, but he sure seems to have all the tools to be a good one. I compare him more to Thomas Robinson than Leonard, and even though TRob had some good games (and highlights) , Vonleh plays with more control. I am not worried that he will turn it over like I was every time TRob had the ball away from the basket. Once he gets more consistent with his mid range shot, his minutes will soar

Hate to jinx it but right now I think he can be the PF of the future.

 

[PDXFonz]

Yup; Vonleh's defense now is already above Meyers's ceiling.

Accurate as .....

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Yup; Vonleh's defense now is already above Meyers's ceiling.

and Vonleh will be a 3 point shooter, too.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

and Vonleh will be a 3 point shooter, too.

He showed he could shoot it in Summer League but personally I am fine if he doesn't do it much for a few more years. Stay in the paint and learn some more moves.

 

[Nikolokolus]

and Vonleh will be a 3 point shooter, too.

Well he'll never be able to hit "swish3s" like Leonard can. Without a steady diet of swish3s, his threes will lack the necessary swish to make them into a proper swish3.

Swish3