The super Harden to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Natebishop3 said:
Harden is basically CJ on steroids. Like if you took CJ and moved all the sliders to 99, you have Harden.

Teams would no longer be able to trap Dame, but would Dame do well with Harden? I'm skeptical.
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Harden's game is closer to Dames than CJs
 
e_blazer said:
No doubt that Harden is the superior basketball talent. There’s also little doubt that CJ is the superior human being or that there’s value in the stability that his friendship with Dame provides. That said, I would still make the trade, but you have to live with the associated risk that it could lead to a chemistry implosion.
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At one point last season we were within 1/2 a game of the #5 Lottery slot. Then we got hot and beat out a very young Grizzlies team for #8 where we were immediately dismissed from further participation. That chemistry doesn't seem to be doing a lot. I'll take a star coming in and having immediate impact like what Durant is doing in Brooklyn. Durant and Irving aren't known for chemistry, but they are thrashing people early.
 
TBpup said:
At one point last season we were within 1/2 a game of the #5 Lottery slot. Then we got hot and beat out a very young Grizzlies team for #8 where we were immediately dismissed from further participation. That chemistry doesn't seem to be doing a lot. I'll take a star coming in and having immediate impact like what Durant is doing in Brooklyn. Durant and Irving aren't known for chemistry, but they are thrashing people early.
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Come on, looking at last season as indicative of this year’s prospects is a bit of a straw man, don’t you think? Unless you think that a healthy Nurk isn’t considerably better than Whiteside, not to mention Kanter being off-the-charts better than Tolliver or Swanigan. And that doesn’t even factor in a healthy Collins come the end of January. And then there’s the improved defense that RoCo and Jones Jr. will ultimately bring once players get accustomed to their roles and each other. A healthy Hood and growing skills of Trent and Simons have to be considered. So, I think looking at last year’s record as some commentary on the ineffectiveness of chemistry is pretty far off the mark.
 
When you look at Houston's talent now with Wood & Wall they are as deep an talented as we are if they stay healthy. I bet he ends up staying there because of it.
 
e_blazer said:
Come on, looking at last season as indicative of this year’s prospects is a bit of a straw man, don’t you think? Unless you think that a healthy Nurk isn’t considerably better than Whiteside, not to mention Kanter being off-the-charts better than Tolliver or Swanigan. And that doesn’t even factor in a healthy Collins come the end of January. And then there’s the improved defense that RoCo and Jones Jr. will ultimately bring once players get accustomed to their roles and each other. A healthy Hood and growing skills of Trent and Simons have to be considered. So, I think looking at last year’s record as some commentary on the ineffectiveness of chemistry is pretty far off the mark.
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Bigger picture. We have often had the most continuity in the league, but last year was quite different. No matter who we have had, we tend to start out slow....so the chemistry thing doesn't really seem to have that much of an effect.
 
Orion Bailey said:
hahahaha

well i think Ant needs the minutes. And i thought he played well overall.
Trent has not been making shots like in the bubble and doesn't pass the ball.
Melo did suck. But he just needs to stay positive and remind himself he isn't here for these games. He's here for the playoffs when the game slows down snd becomes more half court.

Game threads are all about emotions, rarely about reason. But hey par for the times right? Lol
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Uhh Trent is still an elite 3 point shooter people, he has been 13/29 (44.8) in the preseason and regular season. He’s just struggling on his mid range shot, that will come around eventually. And Simons didn’t light up the world with his passing last night, he just had 0 assists. And Trent still play better defense than Simons. But the real issue really isn’t Trent vs Simons. It’s Trent vs Melo and Hood. Trent is a better 3 point shooter than them while providing better defense. Stotts is just stupid people, wake up
 
Benching Trent seems so odd that it feels like maybe it was an attitude type thing. Some of these dudes aren’t coachable and don’t respond to criticism. I have NO idea if Trent falls into that category but I’m not sure what else it could be.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Man.... reading some of the posts..... some Blazer fans just are embarrassing.
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Yes....the guy Dan was responding to was comparing Dame with Russell Westbrook in terms of how they would play with Harden.
 
TBpup said:
Yes....the guy Dan was responding to was comparing Dame with Russell Westbrook in terms of how they would play with Harden.
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I honestly didn't think Harden and CP3 would play well together.... and they went to the WCF and came super close to beating the Warriors.
 
What does it mean that portland exercised options for ant and nas?
 
Hoopguru said:
When you look at Houston's talent now with Wood & Wall they are as deep an talented as we are if they stay healthy. I bet he ends up staying there because of it.
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I need to see Wood do it for an entire season. 6th team in 6 seasons means something isn’t right or he wouldn’t bounce around so much. Wall, who knows what he can still bring.
 
Orion Bailey said:
whoa. Today we just did that?? Is there any other reason TO do that if not prepping for a trade?
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Yeah about 30-40 mins ago. It could be just to make sure we keep Simons and Little on the cheap for next season. Not give a chance for Simons or Little to walk away this offseason when we already have to figure out Trent...if we don't trade him.
 
6 in 6 years is strange, attitude problems?
 
KingSpeed said:
He did get 8 assists though with 0 turnovers. Maybe he could get 17 if he was primary ball handler.
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I will say that I have always felt that CJ COULD get a lot of assists if he put his mind to it but he just doesn't have that mentality.
 
Boise Blazer said:
I will say that I have always felt that CJ COULD get a lot of assists if he put his mind to it but he just doesn't have that mentality.
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CJ got alot of his assists playing with Kanter...they seem to have good chemistry when Dame is on the bench. He also finds Melo with the second unit....8 assists mostly with the second unit is great
 
I've been solidly saying that we could only get Harden for CJ, Nurk and picks but if we somehow pulled off CJ, Zach, Gary, Nas, Ant and picks for Harden I would be shocked and elated.

Dame, Harden, DJJ, RoCo, Nurk, Melo, Hoodie, Enes, Giles, some unsigned vets and D Leaguers would be a really scary team for any opponent to play.
 
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