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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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BonesJones said:
If we trade Harkless it makes me wonder if we're making a play for Crowder. Maybe a 4-team trade? Unlikely, but...
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As far as picks go:
Boston would get the right to swap either their 2018 BKN or LAL Picks with NYKs 2018 1st. They only get the LAL pick if it's top 2-5, and BKNs will be top 5 as well. It would mean NYK wouldn't fall out of the top 5 but Boston would further their chances of getting two top 5 picks.
Boston would also get HOU's 2020 1st.

Houston trades Anderson and a future 1st for Carmelo
Boston gets a future pick and a valuable right to swap next years picks
New York gets a valuable young piece in Harkless and a PG that they need in Napier.
Portland swaps Leonard, Harkless, and Napier for Anderson and Crowder without trading a future pick.
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This is, like, the second good trade proposal you've made! But I don't think HOU is giving up nearly enough - they should probably be giving up at least one more pick. I don't know who that Taylor guy is, but I'm assuming he's a scrub - so, aside from the one pick you have them giving up, they've just given away a bunch of garbage for the "best" player in the deal.
 
riverman said:
If Meyers thought Blazer fans were harsh.....holy shit...if he's a Knick it's going to be brutal beyond brutal
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If Meyers goes to New York, they need to make a reality series out of THAT! I would watch. Just fill the soundtrack with Elliott Smith and watch the most depressing show ever construed. Imagine a close in shot of Meyers sitting in traffic in his Jeep, a single tear drop falling down his cheek whilst the "Sad, Walking Away" song from The Incredible Hulk plays forlornly.
Tv gold.
 
Minstrel said:
But in your trade, New York is basically not getting a return. From what I've read, when Houston tried to move Anderson's contract, they found no takers. He's not viewed as any kind of asset at his salary.
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I'm pretending Crabbe is an asset. Anderson is the garbage.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think more trades would happen, but they would be independent of this deal. Possibly Crabbe going to BKN, or a deal for Crowder.
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If we traded Crabbe and Harkless then we would have Turner as a starting SF and have no wings off the bench. We'd need to add a PG/SG and a SG/SF to replace Crabbe and Harkless.

That's why I think that trading Harkless, Leonard, and Napier to New York while taking on Anderson makes sense if we're going after Crowder. Harkless, Leonard, and Napier is around ~$23M. Anderson is only ~$19M. That would allow us to take on Crowder (who replaces Harkless) for free, giving Boston cap space.

In a deal like this, we could potentially get HOU's 2020 1st for taking on Anderson, which we could then package with our 2018 1st to trade for Crowder. Boston would likely jump at that deal, getting 2 future firsts for Crowder, as well as cap space.

We'd essentially replace Leonard's awful contract with a more awful contract of Anderson. At least Anderson can somewhat play though. Getting Crowder would be a talent upgrade for sure.
 
Rumor is that New York only wants players under 26 years old, and if they get a vet, they want them on a short contract. Means they wouldn't want Anderson and would be looking to trade Courtney Lee.

I'm down with anything if we can get the right to swap NYKs firsts next year. We need to find our way into the lottery with another teams pick, if possible. We're already fucked cap wise, so taking on a bad contract like Anderson's is fine if we can get a very talented young player with a better pick.

I think that might be Olshey's plan here. Anderson, Turner, and Crabbe (and Meyers if we kept him) would all expire at the same time. We'd have Lillard, Nurkic, and McCollum on MAX deals, but would have Collins, Swanigan, and whoever we would draft with NYKs draft pick on rookie deals, and hopefully developing into good NBA players. That would allow us to go after high level FAs in the summer of 2020, when the Warriors may be on the decline and Lebron playing for who knows where.
 
BonesJones said:
If we traded Crabbe and Harkless then we would have Turner as a starting SF and have no wings off the bench. We'd need to add a PG/SG and a SG/SF to replace Crabbe and Harkless.

That's why I think that trading Harkless, Leonard, and Napier to New York while taking on Anderson makes sense if we're going after Crowder. Harkless, Leonard, and Napier is around ~$23M. Anderson is only ~$19M. That would allow us to take on Crowder (who replaces Harkless) for free, giving Boston cap space.

In a deal like this, we could potentially get HOU's 2020 1st for taking on Anderson, which we could then package with our 2018 1st to trade for Crowder. Boston would likely jump at that deal, getting 2 future firsts for Crowder, as well as cap space.

We'd essentially replace Leonard's awful contract with a more awful contract of Anderson. At least Anderson can somewhat play though. Getting Crowder would be a talent upgrade for sure.
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If the deal is only the names that were reportedly mentioned - Harkless/Meyers out and Anderson in, I could see us doing another three-team deal with BKN and Boston that sent Crabbe to BKN, Vonleh to Boston, and Lin/Crowder to Portland.

Dame/Lin
CJ/Turner
Crowder/Aminu
Anderson/Swanigan
Nurk/Collins

That would clear the $3 million they need for Hayward and give them a young rebounder in Vonleh. The Nets get their overpaid wing that they seem to covet so much.
 
BonesJones said:
I think that might be Olshey's plan here. Anderson, Turner, and Crabbe (and Meyers if we kept him) would all expire at the same time. We'd have Lillard, Nurkic, and McCollum on MAX deals, but would have Collins, Swanigan, and whoever we would draft with NYKs draft pick on rookie deals, and hopefully developing into good NBA players. That would allow us to go after high level FAs in the summer of 2020, when the Warriors may be on the decline and Lebron playing for who knows where.
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Very true NO did the same thing with LA's free agency. He only signed players to contracts that expired with LAs haha
 
Moe and Meyers for Anderson is a good deal. Harkless is young but he is what he is, I don't see much more of an upside with him. Anderson is an elite shooter who'll get even better looks than he got in Houston. That makes our team better. Our offense is missing that third guy that can consistently knock down an open shot. With Anderson that problem is solved. If we can add Lee too, cool, but I'm more of a lance thomas fan.
 
theprunetang said:
If Meyers goes to New York, they need to make a reality series out of THAT! I would watch. Just fill the soundtrack with Elliott Smith and watch the most depressing show ever construed. Imagine a close in shot of Meyers sitting in traffic in his Jeep, a single tear drop falling down his cheek whilst the "Sad, Walking Away" song from The Incredible Hulk plays forlornly.
Tv gold.
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Seriously, push play on this song and then just stare at this photo. It's perfect.




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theprunetang said:
If Meyers goes to New York, they need to make a reality series out of THAT! I would watch. Just fill the soundtrack with Elliott Smith and watch the most depressing show ever construed. Imagine a close in shot of Meyers sitting in traffic in his Jeep, a single tear drop falling down his cheek whilst the "Sad, Walking Away" song from The Incredible Hulk plays forlornly.
Tv gold.
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"You've had a bad day... the camera don't lie"
 
Natebishop3 said:
If the deal is only the names that were reportedly mentioned - Harkless/Meyers out and Anderson in, I could see us doing another three-team deal with BKN and Boston that sent Crabbe to BKN, Vonleh to Boston, and Lin/Crowder to Portland.

Dame/Lin
CJ/Turner
Crowder/Aminu
Anderson/Swanigan
Nurk/Collins

That would clear the $3 million they need for Hayward and give them a young rebounder in Vonleh. The Nets get their overpaid wing that they seem to covet so much.
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I'd want a 1st rounder from Houston and would try to use flip that for Lin.

You could still have Aminu at PF, with Dame/CJ/Lin playing a 3-guard rotation and Crowder/Turner at SF.
 
Well I wouldn't mind Anderson a Blazer he definitely can shoot the ball. Any trade you might have to give up a good player to get what you want in the trade.
 
But if you are talking trading Crabbe I don't think that can official until July 15.
 
I wouldn't mind if a deal with New York included us getting Mason Plumlee's younger brother....he's impressed me in summer league..throw him into the deal while we're at it.
 
I would prefer to keep Harkless but I assume he is someone NY wants. And having Aminu and Harkless on the same team is not really desirable to me anymore. So unfortunately since Harkless is younger, I think he is the one that goes.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If the deal is only the names that were reportedly mentioned - Harkless/Meyers out and Anderson in, I could see us doing another three-team deal with BKN and Boston that sent Crabbe to BKN, Vonleh to Boston, and Lin/Crowder to Portland.

Dame/Lin
CJ/Turner
Crowder/Aminu
Anderson/Swanigan
Nurk/Collins

That would clear the $3 million they need for Hayward and give them a young rebounder in Vonleh. The Nets get their overpaid wing that they seem to covet so much.
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That's a roster I could really root for. It's not a championship one IMO, but a fun, winning ball club.

Why do you think Blazers are in "Win-Now" mode as stated on earlier page? I don't see that. We're acquiring young, assets mostly and trying to build around Lillard's and CJ's age range. If we were win-now, we'd have traded ALL those picks for Vets IMO. Explain your rationale.
 
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