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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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Trade Crabbe, Turner and Harkless? No problem because Layman.
(where is the damn green font button...)
 
dviss1 said:
They don't run the pick and roll. Hark just slashes to the bucket and finishes better than anyone on the team. But yes. DON'T trade him.
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Exactly. Running the pick and roll would require Mo to dribble. Mo is MUCH better moving without the ball than trying to move with it. And, I'm OK with that. Kersey was the same way. One guy like that on the court at a time is fine, especially when you have someone like Nurk (or even Plumlee - he was great at hitting Mo in the LAC series) who can make that pass from the high post.

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
@TBpup Are you hearing anything?
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@BonesJones I checked with a contact close to the Nets. That's as close as I have to the Knicks. He didn't seem to think Portland would get involved taking on Anderson's deal unless there was a pick or some significant cap relief attached. Houston has nothing of value and neither does NY to speak of.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I hope we end up with Harkless! He's the only player I like in that list.
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Ding ding ding! We have a winner! With Harkless being the only named player worth a damn, and the fact that there's a public rumor, there's no chance we're actually interested in this. NYK leaked this "rumor" to try to create value out of Melo. This is a phishing expedition to try to get other 3rd parties involved.
Or at least it BETTER be!
 
blue9 said:
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! With Harkless being the only named player worth a damn, and the fact that there's a public rumor, there's no chance we're actually interested in this. NYK leaked this "rumor" to try to create value out of Melo. This is a phishing expedition to try to get other 3rd parties involved.
Or at least it BETTER be!
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Exactly, the Knicks may have leaked that they want Mo, but that doesn't mean he's been offered.

BNM
 
dviss1 said:
They don't run the pick and roll. Hark just slashes to the bucket and finishes better than anyone on the team. But yes. DON'T trade him.
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Slashing, my mistake, thank you. I love the way he does it.
 
blue9 said:
When looked at in this light, all they've really done is set Harkless' trade value at "superstar". ;)
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Damn! If only they had done that before IND traded Paul George to OKC. As much as Kevin Pritchard hates Paul Allen, even he would have had a hard time turning down a young "superstar" in return for his disgruntled one.

BNM
 
Hard to see the the Blazers being interested in Ryan Anderson at this point. He has 3 more years left, and they just drafted Collins and Swanigan, and I think Olshey is very high on those 2. But if they can dump Turner and Meyers, in exchange for him, they could shedding 7 mil of hard to shed cap space.

In addition to that, they'd be able to dump Ed Davis, and maybe Aminu.

I think Ryan could be a nice rotational player with the Blazers.
 
Scalma said:
Moe and Meyers for Anderson is a good deal. Harkless is young but he is what he is, I don't see much more of an upside with him. Anderson is an elite shooter who'll get even better looks than he got in Houston. That makes our team better. Our offense is missing that third guy that can consistently knock down an open shot. With Anderson that problem is solved. If we can add Lee too, cool, but I'm more of a lance thomas fan.
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He's so bad on D he might make Dame and CJ look like average defenders
 
Sinobas said:
Hard to see the the Blazers being interested in Ryan Anderson at this point. He has 3 more years left, and they just drafted Collins and Swanigan, and I think Olshey is very high on those 2. But if they can dump Turner and Meyers, in exchange for him, they could shedding 7 mil of hard to shed cap space.

In addition to that, they'd be able to dump Ed Davis, and maybe Aminu.

I think Ryan could be a nice rotational player with the Blazers.
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I'd like to give Davis one more year while healthy to show us what he's got. I think he does alright in the small rotation.

And if we're going to trade away Aminu, as I have said before: we need someone else to pick up the defense. And we have nobody who will do that, nor does this trade give us anyone who plays better defense than him.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Is this a criminal trial or a civil suit? I'd say it does not meet the burden of proof for a criminal trial (beyond a reasonable doubt, unanimous jury verdict), but does meet the burden of proof in a civil case (preponderance of the evidence, simple majority from the jury).

Not sure anyone is getting "famous" posting fake photos of NBA players and their luggage, but I suppose it could be a hoax just for the fuck of it.

BNM
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To some people famous is getting 200 retweets. 5 minutes of fame kind of thing. "Breaking news leaked by this asshat on twitter" "Credit to @asshatontwitter"

They made it onto S2, which I'm pretty sure is huge +rep
 
TBpup said:
@BonesJones I checked with a contact close to the Nets. That's as close as I have to the Knicks. He didn't seem to think Portland would get involved taking on Anderson's deal unless there was a pick or some significant cap relief attached. Houston has nothing of value and neither does NY to speak of.
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If Porter gets matched, would they be interested in Crabbe? That's the REAL question.
 
LJ Ginger said:
Yes, finally someone who gets it...it'll be tough to lose Mo but Anderson is a perfect inside outside fit next to Nurk!
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Actually, Dame, CJ, and Crabbe all fit the bill quite nicely. Can Anderson replace Mo's cuts to the basket for automatic baskets? We don't need literally every player on the floor shooting 3s...despite what Tater Totts might think.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
To some people famous is getting 200 retweets. 5 minutes of fame kind of thing. "Breaking news leaked by this asshat on twitter" "Credit to @asshatontwitter"

They made it onto S2, which I'm pretty sure is huge +rep
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Social media has diluted the meaning of famous and shortened our collective attention span. Back in the day, people sought their 15 minutes of fame. Now, they're willing to settle for 5.

BNM
 
Anderson theoretically replaces Crabbe's 3 point shooting, but he isn't as good, and is a terrible defender. Crabbe is at least passable. Anderson is paid roughly 20 million over the next 3 seasons, which goes the length of every one of our "bad" contracts, so there's no chance at cap relief, unless you move Crabbe, Turner, and Leonard. And even then, why?
Anderson can't cover anyone. I know Meyers is written off, but as a backup C who has shown he can also hit at an above average clip from 3 when healthy, he can at least be brought in to cover bigger Cs. Anderson can't cover them, and can't cover PFs.

Looks to me that...NYK wants to get rid of Carmelo. Houston wants Carmelo. NYK don't want Anderson. If we're stuck with Anderson, I'd need BOTH teams giving me something good in return, and I don't want to lose a single asset I might actually like. But Houston has nothing to offer, Hartenstein and a 1st 3 years from now? And NYK is highly unlikely to move a 1st to dump Carmelo, or any asset, but that's what I'd need. I hate the idea of Anderson here. I much prefer Vonleh at PF starting, and then going small with Aminu off the bench at the 4, with minutes to Collins and Swanigan as well. Anderson not good enough to justify the $$ and length of his deal.
 
blue9 said:
Actually, Dame, CJ, and Crabbe all fit the bill quite nicely. Can Anderson replace Mo's cuts to the basket for automatic baskets? We don't need literally every player on the floor shooting 3s...despite what Tater Totts might think.
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Can Anderson play remotely as well on defense as Mo? No. As long as we have Dame and CJ we cannot have Anderson too.
 
Reep said:
Can Anderson play remotely as well on defense as Mo? No. As long as we have Dame and CJ we cannot have Anderson too.
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There are a BILLION reasons not to trade for Anderson! This had got to be one of the dumbest rumors EVAR.
 
I would hope any trade we would make would improve our defense, not leave it the same.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Social media has diluted the meaning of famous and shortened our collective attention span. Back in the day, people sought their 15 minutes of fame. Now, they're willing to settle for 5.

BNM
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No argument there, it's definitely that way for some people. That's why you see so many people throwing shade to someone like Dame on twitter, every time they do that they retweet his response like "He noticed me, he noticed me!".
 
Boob-No-More said:
As in lets people drive right past him like he's not even there?

Yes, Anderson sucks at defense, but Crabbe is just as bad.

BNM
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I know I shouldn't even start this with you, but has Anderson ever come up with a steal during crunch time? Because I remember Crabbe getting several - that alone makes Crabbe a far superior defender.
 
TBpup said:
@BonesJones I checked with a contact close to the Nets. That's as close as I have to the Knicks. He didn't seem to think Portland would get involved taking on Anderson's deal unless there was a pick or some significant cap relief attached. Houston has nothing of value and neither does NY to speak of.
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Ha, thatsa whata saida! But.... it would have to be 2020 pick, since Houston doesn't own it's own 2018 pick... and I'm not sure they'd do that.
 
Reep said:
Can Anderson play remotely as well on defense as Mo? No. As long as we have Dame and CJ we cannot have Anderson too.
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Can Moe shoot remotely as well as Anderson? No.

I love some fans. Let's improve our team but let's do it without giving up anything in a trade or spending any money. I wish I lived in that world.
 
Reep said:
I would hope any trade we would make would improve our defense, not leave it the same.
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Trading for Anderson would actually make our defense MUCH worse. Vonleh (and Nurk) was our best defender last season. If we replace Vonleh with Anderson we may as well just tell Anderson to stay on the offensive end of the court at all times in the hopes we get a rebound and can outlet to him for an open 3.
 
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