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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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Not necessarily, if he goes to somewhere like Brooklyn he still has to try and be the hero and will eventually realize he can't do it by himself. But if he goes somewhere like Portland I think he's shown he is more than capable of being a fantastic team player based off his time with team USA.
Even with the Nuggets he was a ball stopper. Its in his DNA.

It's funny how everybody thinks that coming to Portland will cause Carmelo to okay a different, better style of basketball than he has his whole career.

He's shown he's a good team player playing next to Durant and Lebron while playing against fringe NBA talent. Somehow that means that he'll be a good team player in Portland even though he has never been a good team player in his 13 NBA seasons?

Y'all would hate this acquisition when were giving up 130 points a game next season while Carmelo is shooting 40% on contested mid-range jumpers while freezing out Dame, CJ, and Nurkic.
 
Even with the Nuggets he was a ball stopper. Its in his DNA.

It's funny how everybody thinks that coming to Portland will cause Carmelo to okay a different, better style of basketball than he has his whole career.

He's shown he's a good team player playing next to Durant and Lebron while playing against fringe NBA talent. Somehow that means that he'll be a good team player in Portland even though he has never been a good team player in his 13 NBA seasons?

Y'all would hate this acquisition when were giving up 130 points a game next season while Carmelo is shooting 40% on contested mid-range jumpers while freezing out Dame, CJ, and Nurkic.

Not if we got PG first. Melo would be like the 3rd or 4th option. Also HIGHLY tradeable if shit don't work out.
 
what you all are forgetting is if melo came to portland and that it is a uuuugee deal if we could be on espn every night(and we would). With that exposure comes a level of deference around the league from officials (our stars might actually start getting treated as such). This is a popularity driven league and if we can land one of the 5-6 biggest names in the nba, basketball issues aside it would be very good for our franchise as a whole.

Not to mention neither dame or cj really had a real vet mentor in their careers the likes of melo. Maybe Wes but he's no where near the player Melo is. My point is Melo would be an excellent resource for our young guys. Despite his lack of success in the NBA I dont think anyone else has more international success than Carmelo and if we get that player we can make some real noise in the west.
So Melo is a vet mentor, and all the unnecessary attention he'd bring would be good for the franchise? Is the goal to get better or to get more ESPN games and TMZ Sports features?

Dame doesn't need a mentor. He'd mentor Carmelo. Carmelo has a history of being a playoff loser.

People are reaching to try to justify this idea.
 
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Not if we got PG first. Melo would be like the 3rd or 4th option. Also HIGHLY tradeable if shit don't work out.
Why is New York having SDI much trouble then? He'd be extremely hard to trade once he's declined further, is making $28M a year and has a no trade clause.
 
I think it could be an absolutely genius move for this team. It buys us talent immediately unloads Leonard who won't contribute, gives us a player that will contribute for more than and pick in this draft and at worst helps our luxury cap after this season. #15 is maybe the wrong pick though #20 can con into play.

Except that Melo is a cancer.
 
No way Melo waives his no trade to come to PDX.

I'd take on his deal just to rid myself of watching Leonard "play" basketball.

Fit wise, I actually like Melo as a 4 next to Nurk in the frontcourt provided we get a versatile, lockdown defender at the 3.

PG13?
 
Between most late 1st round picks likely being good NBA starters or all-stars, and people thinking Melo would be a good fit here, this board is unrealistically optimistic right now. Which is weird because I'm usually the one who's unrealistically optimistic going into the offseason.
 
Between most late 1st round picks likely being good NBA starters or all-stars, and people thinking Melo would be a good fit here, this board is unrealistically optimistic right now. Which is weird because I'm usually the one who's unrealistically optimistic going into the offseason.
You're just unrealistically aggitatable lately.
 
Why is New York having SDI much trouble then? He'd be extremely hard to trade once he's declined further, is making $28M a year and has a no trade clause.

So if he waives it, it's not waived for good?
 
Bet folk in here won't complain about super teams if we made one...

Back in Michael Jordan's early years, you needed to add a second star to win a championship. Then Garnett and Jesus S. joined forces with The Truth in Beantown and Lebron and Bosh took their act to South Beach to join forces with DWade and you needed a Big 3 to win. Now, KD joins GSW and you need a Big 4 to win it all. Let's be the first to have a Big 5.

Come on Neil, get out in front of this.

Dame
C.J.
PG13
Melo
Nurk

Plus, Turner, Aminu, KOQ and whoever else wants to come along for the ride coming off the bench.

BNM
 
Rudy Gay is better than Carmelo. They're the same type of player and nobody wants Rudy Gay.

No he's not and no they're not. Gay is coming off a serious injury and has rarely played on a winning team.

When he was in DEN, Melo's teams regularly won 50+ games and finished 1st in the NW Division. His first full season in NY, they won 54 games, finished first in the ATL division and advanced to the second round.

Since then (and even before then), the Knicks were a dumpster fire of catastrophic proportions.

Melo has averaged over 28 ppg three times in his career and over 21 ppg 14 times. Gay's best is 21.1 ppg . Melo's career best is 8.1 prpg, he's averaged over 7 rpg four times. Gay's best is 6.7 rpg . Melo's career best is 4.2 apg, he's averaged over 3 apg 7 times. Gay's best is 3.7 and he's only averaged over 3 apg that one time. Not the same player. Not even close.

Your point is valid, but you're over selling it.

BNM
 
I would love this deal

Dame/CJ/Melo/Vonleh/Nurkic is a great team to face Warriors.
I agree! Like Carmelo or not, Blazers front office finally gets the balls to trade for a disgruntled star in the NBA. Move on from the draft.
 
No he's not and no they're not. Gay is coming off a serious injury and has rarely played on a winning team.

When he was in DEN, Melo's teams regularly won 50+ games and finished 1st in the NW Division. His first full season in NY, they won 54 games, finished first in the ATL division and advanced to the second round.

Since then (and even before then), the Knicks were a dumpster fire of catastrophic proportions.

Melo has averaged over 28 ppg three times in his career and over 21 ppg 14 times. Gay's best is 21.1 ppg . Melo's career best is 8.1 prpg, he's averaged over 7 rpg four times. Gay's best is 6.7 rpg . Melo's career best is 4.2 apg, he's averaged over 3 apg 7 times. Gay's best is 3.7 and he's only averaged over 3 apg that one time. Not the same player. Not even close.

Your point is valid, but you're over selling it.

BNM
Gay has rarely played on a winning team... Same with Carmelo.

In Melo's prime, he had a decent team around him. He's not in his prime anymore.

Melo shoots more than Gay on the same or worse efficiency.

The year he had 8rpg he was playing 39 minutes per game.

He had one year of 4apg, for as ball dominant as he is, to average only 3 assists over the course of his career if horrible.

In the past 6 years he hasn't shot over 47.6% from 2pt. That's a 95 ORTG on shots he shoots from 2pt land. And it's not like his aggressiveness form 2pt creates good shots for other players, as his assist numbers show.

He's shot between 33% and 36% from 3pt in the last 3 years. That's average to below average.

Apparently his "star status" will bring more whistles... however, his free throw rate was .26 (compared to Lillard's .36).

He literally does nothing good for a team. Just playing team-offense will result in better shooting percentages than if Melo shoots. He's not efficient, not a passer, a horrible defender, not a good locker presence (like some suggest), he's on a horrible contract, he wouldn't embrace Portland or the fanbase.

I'm not over selling it. He'd be a horrible acquisition.
 
I was talking about the present. Not 2004, 2006, 2008, or 2010.

Lets look at last year and who has the edge:

EFFICIENCY: Advantage: Rudy Gay
Gay:

48.3 2pt% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in the last 8 years)
37.2 3pt% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in the last 3 years)
85.5 FT% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in his career)

PASSING: Even
Assists Per 36:
Gay:
2.9
Melo: 3.0

DEFENSE: Advantage: Rudy Gay
Gay:

1.6 Steals per 36 (Melo's highest career stl per 36 rate is 1.2)
0.9 Blocks per 36 (Higher than Carmelo's posted in his career)
0.4 DBPM (Carmelo's never posted a positive DBPM in his career)

Other stats:

Free Throw Rate:
Gay:
.312 (Higher than Melo in the past 3 years)

Rebounding:
REBs Per 36
Gay:
6.8
Melo: 6.2

The stats back me up, so don't tell me to "GTFO"...
 
Melo won college tourney and has played in the WCF where he played well.
 
Gay has rarely played on a winning team... Same with Carmelo.

Wrong. Melo played on a winning team 10 years in a row. DEN had a winning record all 8 years he played there and NYK had a winning record his first two years there. Whenever he had decent teammates, his team had a winning record.

Gay has played on a winning team for three and a half seasons - 2.5 in MEM and 1 in TOR.

This is what I mean by overselling your case. You toss out nonsense like this that isn't even close to true and expect us to believe it.

Again you have some valid points (many I agree with), but when you make statements like this, you are undermining your own credibility.

BNM
 
Wrong. Melo played on a winning team 10 years in a row. DEN had a winning record all 8 years he played there and NYK had a winning record his first two years there. Whenever he had decent teammates, his team had a winning record.

Gay has played on a winning team for three and a half seasons - 2.5 in MEM and 1 in TOR.

This is what I mean by overselling your case. You toss out nonsense like this that isn't even close to true and expect us to believe it.

Again you have some valid points (many I agree with), but when you make statements like this, you are undermining your own credibility.

BNM
I'm only focusing on his years with NYK, which are the most relevant. By winner, I mean making the WCF. He's hardly had success in the playoffs. Therefore, I don't view him as a winner.

Gay's stats who he's a better player.
 
Portland was a 2nd tier team capable of sometimes winning 1st tier teams when it had Lamarcus.

Carmelo is definitely more skilled than LMA (even though i think they are both soft).

I'm not saying Carmelo would take us to the top, but i'm open-minded about bringing him over.
 

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