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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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Five Second Violation said:
Look at Anderson's career numbers in the postseason. Totally pathetic. We're better off straight dumping Leonard or Turner than we are taking back another overpaid, one dimensional guy who doesn't defend and gets in the way of our rookies developing.
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Ya because it's so crucial that we stay a development team.
 
riverman said:
If moving 20 million worth of Leonard and Harkless (who we got for nothing) brings in a vet who can stretch the defense and isn't lost on a basketball court...and they give us a 1st and Hardenstein (sp?), then, I guess.....it's all good.
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FIFY
 
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Mediocre Man said:
Teams win with defense, but Neil just keeps adding offensive guys who can't guard a fucking door
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This. It takes more than 3 point shooting to win a game. Otherwise, we would have finished in the top 3 in this league last season with all the 3 point shots we took.

We need guys who can play Defense too. Mo isn't great at it, but he's better than Anderson.

The more I think about it, the more I don't want Anderson coming here unless that means we can keep Mo too.
 
Scalma said:
Show me the numbers then. Anderson is an elite shooter. Harkless will never be elite at anything. There's a reason teams dare him to shoot. There's a reason Harkless is making half of what Anderson is.
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Anderson shot 28.3% on 5.5 3PA/G this year in the playoffs. Just brutal. At least Harkless plays a lick of defense, which makes him a lot more valuable on a team with major perimeter defensive issues.
 
My concern with Anderson is his being prone to injuries.

He's not the same as Crabbe. They play different positions and are guarded by different guys on the other teams.

A guy like Anderson doesn't bring a big in the lane to crowd it up for Nurk. If they double Nurk, an Anderson should take advantage of being wide open.

On offense, he surely is an upgrade over Aminu at PF. He's been a high teens scorer for several seasons, unlike all but 2 guys on our roster.

We're awful on defense, we'd still be awful on defense.

I think we've seen Mo's upside.

I would not be surprised if we get cash and a draft pick in the deal. If there's a deal to be had.
 
Five Second Violation said:
Anderson shot 28.3% on 5.5 3PA/G this year in the playoffs. Just brutal. At least Harkless plays a lick of defense, which makes him a lot more valuable on a team with major perimeter defensive issues.
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here's the kicker though....he played with James Harden this year in the playoffs and was probably a spectator all through the playoffs by design
 
Denny Crane said:
My concern with Anderson is his being prone to injuries.

He's not the same as Crabbe. They play different positions and are guarded by different guys on the other teams.

A guy like Anderson doesn't bring a big in the lane to crowd it up for Nurk. If they double Nurk, an Anderson should take advantage of being wide open.

On offense, he surely is an upgrade over Aminu at PF. He's been a high teens scorer for several seasons, unlike all but 2 guys on our roster.

We're awful on defense, we'd still be awful on defense.

I think we've seen Mo's upside.

I would not be surprised if we get cash and a draft pick in the deal. If there's a deal to be had.
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I disagree about Mo. I think he's gotten better since he's been here, and he exploded after we got Nurk. I think with a full season playing with Nurk, they can be very productive together.

Before we got Nurk, the whole team was hot garbage, so I don't hold that against him specifically. But we've seen what he can do, and I'm willing to bet on that only getting better for another season with Nurk in the rotation.
 
I recall the Blazers being interested in Anderson before he went to the Rockets as well.
 
dviss1 said:
He's lost on the defensive end...
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with Turner, Aminu and Nurk, you can hide him and use the points....people don't realize how many points you need to score to win one game against the DUBS now....you have to go with a 10 player rotation almost to wear down those superstar teams...
 
riverman said:
with Turner, Aminu and Nurk, you can hide him and use the points....people don't realize how many points you need to score to win one game against the DUBS now....you have to go with a 10 player rotation almost to wear down those superstar teams...
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Look, If you trade:

Crabbe? Yes.

Hark? NO.
 
Boob-No-More said:
Which is why I'd MUCH rather see Crabbe go out in this rumored trade than Mo. Crabbe and Anderson are basically redundant, in both skill set and contract. No need for both, In fact, the two of them on the court at the same time made me shudder. Neither are good at creating for themselves, or others and both suck at defense. Yuck!

BNM
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OK, how about Crabbe and Leonard go out, plus Vonleh. They go to NY. Anderson to us and Anthony to Houston. This won't work on Trade machine, but doesn't Houston have some non-guaranteed contracts to trade out to balance it? I consider Anthony's trade value neutral at best so I think NY does OK. Houston does OK. We do OK by clearing some contracts and getting hopefully a useful player.
 
Jade Falcon said:
I disagree about Mo. I think he's gotten better since he's been here, and he exploded after we got Nurk. I think with a full season playing with Nurk, they can be very productive together.
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I also disagree about Mo with the reports that he's continuing to work on his outside shot.

But what are you talking about (bolded text)? March, the only full month Nurk was playing for us, was statistically his 2nd worst month of the season. And he had slightly better stats before the all-star game than after.
 
noknobs said:
I also disagree about Mo with the reports that he's continuing to work on his outside shot.

But what are you talking about (bolded text)? March, the only full month Nurk was playing for us, was statistically his 2nd worst month of the season. And he had slightly better stats before the all-star game than after.
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Alright. "Exploded" was a poor choice of the word. BUT....I still maintain that he played noticeably better after we got Nurk. At least, that's what it seemed to me when I watched him play. Others may disagree, and that's fine. But I thought he played better after we got Nurk. His stat numbers don't show his increased confidence or the specific plays he was put in with the presence of Nurk being added to the starting rotation.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
OK, how about Crabbe and Leonard go out, plus Vonleh. They go to NY. Anderson to us and Anthony to Houston. This won't work on Trade machine, but doesn't Houston have some non-guaranteed contracts to trade out to balance it? I consider Anthony's trade value neutral at best so I think NY does OK. Houston does OK. We do OK by clearing some contracts and getting hopefully a useful player.
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I'd love to move Crabbe and Leonard. That's gets us out from under 2 of the 3 bad contracts we signed last summer. I kind of hate to see Vonleh go as I think he still has potential and has shown he can at least play defense and rebound at the NBA level, but with the drafting of Collins and Swanigan, Noah may end up being the odd man out anyway.

With all those non-guaranteed contract HOU has been hoarding, maybe there is a way we can also get Kyle O'Quinn from the Knicks. He doesn't fit their plans, he's very affordable and is a veteran that can back up both the 4 and 5 spots.

BNM
 
riverman said:
with Turner, Aminu and Nurk, you can hide him and use the points....people don't realize how many points you need to score to win one game against the DUBS now....you have to go with a 10 player rotation almost to wear down those superstar teams...
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Except Turner and Aminu aren't starters if you get Anderson. You can't "hide" anyone else when you are already hiding Dame and CJ.
 
Sweetriverphil said:
I'm probably just looking at the past through Bosnian rose colored glasses, but I thought everyone at least looked better with Nurkic on the court. Statistics aside.
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Agreed. Maybe it just appeared as if Moe played better, even if his statistics didn't show it.
 
noknobs said:
I also disagree about Mo with the reports that he's continuing to work on his outside shot.

But what are you talking about (bolded text)? March, the only full month Nurk was playing for us, was statistically his 2nd worst month of the season. And he had slightly better stats before the all-star game than after.
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I'm saying this again:

Look at Moe's 3 point numbers after Nurk.

And I don't really think people are understanding that having a slasher like Moe keeps the defense honest and helps get our 3 point shooters open. He's arguably the best on the team at moving without the ball. This illustrates my point nicely. 4 of Nurk's assists are to Moe on LOVELY cuts to the basket:

 
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