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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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I think the best thing to do would be to pull the Celtics in the trade to try and get Crowder or Bradley.
Then we can also remove Houston from it because we basically don't want any of what they can offer.
Then while we're at it we can also remove the Knicks.

Yeah... That sounds good.
 
Would y'all do Harkless, Meyers, Davis, and Aminu for Anderson, J.Noah, and the right to swap 1sts with NYK?

That pick could be top 5. I'd do it.
 
BonesJones said:
Would y'all do Harkless, Meyers, Davis, and Aminu for Anderson, J.Noah, and the right to swap 1sts with NYK?

That pick could be top 5. I'd do it.
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Anderson AND Noah, and we only get to swap picks? When we match a 20 per year deal for Nurk, we're looking at a 150 million for just 7 guys. That's just terrible.

Lillard
CJ/Crabbe
Turner
Anderson
Nurk/Noah

150 million dollars. LOL.
 
RR7 said:
Anderson AND Noah, and we only get to swap picks? When we match a 20 per year deal for Nurk, we're looking at a 150 million for just 7 guys. That's just terrible.

Lillard
CJ/Crabbe
Turner
Anderson
Nurk/Noah

150 million dollars. LOL.
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Yeah, but I think its worth it to add a potential superstar. Itll all come off the books in 2020, when GSW will be on the decline and we'll have a little bit of cap space to add to a core of Dame/CJ/Nurk/Collins/Vonleh/Swanigan and one of Porter, Doncic, Bamba, or Bridges.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, but I think its worth it to add a potential superstar. Itll all come off the books in 2020, when GSW will be on the decline and we'll have a little bit of cap space to add to a core of Dame/CJ/Nurk/Collins/Vonleh/Swanigan and one of Porter, Doncic, Bamba, or Bridges.
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I think Porter is gonna bust.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, but I think its worth it to add a potential superstar. Itll all come off the books in 2020, when GSW will be on the decline and we'll have a little bit of cap space to add to a core of Dame/CJ/Nurk/Collins/Vonleh/Swanigan and one of Porter, Doncic, Bamba, or Bridges.
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I'm certain Paul Allen is more than happy to pay the luxury tax. I can all but guarantee he's not paying that though. I don't want to bother with the specific math currently. But we add a little over 11 next year, plus the difference in picks. (If there is a big one. West is brutal, east is shit. Could be the difference between 6 and 14). But then Davis expires, and the difference(plus tax) gets bigger. And then Aminu expires,s and it's a 20+ million dollar difference. All the while in the tax. Let's be lazy and go one for one tax. You spent about 80-100 million dollars just to move up in a draft next year, to build for 3 years from now. And that 80 million estimate is low.

You complain about Neil not making moves, being done, whatever, but then toss out trades from the trade machine you'd totally do, easily, that runs up a 100 million dollar tab and adds 2 players that add very little to our team, just to maybe have a chance at a great pick and some space 3 years from now? It's an awful deal, that no owner would accept. Maybe it works out great in 2K where nobody is actually writing that luxury tax check on August 1st, but it's terrible for the Blazers.
 
Remember last year when we got Nurk. All the rumor was with us and Philly that we was going to get Okafor. All sudden we traded with Denver for Nurk. Is this going be another one of those trade where everyone have there ears on this trade and Olshey actually trade with someone else. As got to look at it lot more I don't think Olshey does a trade that had Anderson coming to us. Not when you got 5 guys on the roster that can play PF. Plus it doesn't helps us salary wise.
 
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine

So I think a pick sweetener would have to probably go to NY (from Houston?). Also, NY probably won't do it if they actually like Harkless, so it's probably too rosy.

I do like the balance we'd be provided with if something like this worked out, and I'm a huge AB fan. I just feel like he'd be the perfect 3rd guard to play with Dame and CJ, as he has experience playing off the ball, can stretch the floor, and would help compensate for their lack of defense. With AB, Turner/Harkless can spend more time guarding 2s and 3s, rendering Aminu tradeable too. That starting offense would be a thing of beauty.

Bradley/Anderson to Portland
Noah/Connaughton to Boston (two native Bostonians, they add shooting, rebounding, and cap flexibility)
Carmelo to Houston
Crabbe/Leonard to New York

Lillard/Bradley
CJ/Bradley
Harkless/Turner
Anderson/Aminu
Nurkic/Davis

scraps for Swanigan, Collins, and Napier.
 
BonesJones said:
Would y'all do Harkless, Meyers, Davis, and Aminu for Anderson, J.Noah, and the right to swap 1sts with NYK?

That pick could be top 5. I'd do it.
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RR7 said:
I'm certain Paul Allen is more than happy to pay the luxury tax. I can all but guarantee he's not paying that though. I don't want to bother with the specific math currently. But we add a little over 11 next year, plus the difference in picks. (If there is a big one. West is brutal, east is shit. Could be the difference between 6 and 14). But then Davis expires, and the difference(plus tax) gets bigger. And then Aminu expires,s and it's a 20+ million dollar difference. All the while in the tax. Let's be lazy and go one for one tax. You spent about 80-100 million dollars just to move up in a draft next year, to build for 3 years from now. And that 80 million estimate is low.

You complain about Neil not making moves, being done, whatever, but then toss out trades from the trade machine you'd totally do, easily, that runs up a 100 million dollar tab and adds 2 players that add very little to our team, just to maybe have a chance at a great pick and some space 3 years from now? It's an awful deal, that no owner would accept. Maybe it works out great in 2K where nobody is actually writing that luxury tax check on August 1st, but it's terrible for the Blazers.
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So trade Crabbe or Turner. Who will be easier to trade next summer. Easy ways to work around it. Never say to an all-star talent because of money. I don't think Paul would either.
 
boredinsalem said:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine

So I think a pick sweetener would have to probably go to NY (from Houston?). Also, NY probably won't do it if they actually like Harkless, so it's probably too rosy.

I do like the balance we'd be provided with if something like this worked out, and I'm a huge AB fan. I just feel like he'd be the perfect 3rd guard to play with Dame and CJ, as he has experience playing off the ball, can stretch the floor, and would help compensate for their lack of defense. With AB, Turner/Harkless can spend more time guarding 2s and 3s, rendering Aminu tradeable too. That starting offense would be a thing of beauty.

Bradley/Anderson to Portland
Noah/Connaughton to Boston (two native Bostonians, they add shooting, rebounding, and cap flexibility)
Carmelo to Houston
Crabbe/Leonard to New York

Lillard/Bradley
CJ/Bradley
Harkless/Turner
Anderson/Aminu
Nurkic/Davis

scraps for Swanigan, Collins, and Napier.
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I was thinking the same thing except:

POR Gets: Anderson, Crowder
NYK Gets: Harkless, Leonard, Aminu
BOS Gets: 2018 RTS w/ POR, 2020 HOU 1st
HOU Gets: Carmelo

Lillard / McCollum / Napier
McCollum / Crabbe / Connaughton
Crowder / Turner / Layman
Anderson / Vonleh / Swanigan
Nurkic / Collins / Davis

15th-17th Men: ???
 
Avery Bradley is the bees knees. CJ and Dame would love to have him on our team so he can stop guarding the two of them. I'm under the impression after listening to some Celtics podcasts that the fanbase would much rather trade Bradley because of his upcoming new contract as opposed to Jae Crowder. I'm all in on that for sure.
 
BonesJones said:
I was thinking the same thing except:

POR Gets: Anderson, Crowder
NYK Gets: Harkless, Leonard, Aminu
BOS Gets: 2018 RTS w/ POR, 2020 HOU 1st
HOU Gets: Carmelo

Lillard / McCollum / Napier
McCollum / Crabbe / Connaughton
Crowder / Turner / Layman
Anderson / Vonleh / Swanigan
Nurkic / Collins / Davis

15th-17th Men: ???
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I would still be trying to unload Crabbe to BKN. I think Washington will match Porter.
 
Knicks have offer sheet out to Hardaway Jr, and just waived Marshall Plumlee. Both moves look like SF out Post in.... but can also meek absolutely nothing too.
 
RR7 said:
I'm certain Paul Allen is more than happy to pay the luxury tax. I can all but guarantee he's not paying that though. I don't want to bother with the specific math currently. But we add a little over 11 next year, plus the difference in picks. (If there is a big one. West is brutal, east is shit. Could be the difference between 6 and 14). But then Davis expires, and the difference(plus tax) gets bigger. And then Aminu expires,s and it's a 20+ million dollar difference. All the while in the tax. Let's be lazy and go one for one tax. You spent about 80-100 million dollars just to move up in a draft next year, to build for 3 years from now. And that 80 million estimate is low.

You complain about Neil not making moves, being done, whatever, but then toss out trades from the trade machine you'd totally do, easily, that runs up a 100 million dollar tab and adds 2 players that add very little to our team, just to maybe have a chance at a great pick and some space 3 years from now? It's an awful deal, that no owner would accept. Maybe it works out great in 2K where nobody is actually writing that luxury tax check on August 1st, but it's terrible for the Blazers.
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Why are you "certain" of that? All he's ever stated is that he'd be willing to pay it to contend for a championship (which we are certainly not doing). He has also stated that he never wants to go back to those decadent days of vastly over-paid rosters (which this one is). But he did agree to the signing's Neil made. Maybe he over-estimated the roster? He also could not have anticipated us adding another max-level player out of no where last y ear.
 
BonesJones said:
So trade Crabbe or Turner. Who will be easier to trade next summer. Easy ways to work around it. Never say to an all-star talent because of money. I don't think Paul would either.
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Except it's not "an All Star talent." It's a chance at one. Top five picks bust all the time, and it may not even end up being a top-five pick. You're proposing spending it an absolutely insane amount for probably a less than 50% chance at a star.

Trying to run up a gigantic tax bill now for the hope of more resources in 2020 is the kind of thing that sounds clever on paper, but would never happen in real life and probably shouldn't. Even Allen isn't going to run three years of huge luxury tax just to try and reload in 2020.
 
Minstrel said:
Except it's not "an All Star talent." It's a chance at one. Top five picks bust all the time, and it may not even end up being a top-five pick. You're proposing spending it an absolutely insane amount for probably a less than 50% chance at a star.

Trying to run up a gigantic tax bill now for the hope of more resources in 2020 is the kind of thing that sounds clever on paper, but would never happen in real life and probably shouldn't. Even Allen isn't going to run three years of huge luxury tax just to try and reload in 2020.
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If you have a better plan to add an all-star let me know.
 
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