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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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PtldPlatypus said:
Personally, I think Cleveland says no to that. Sure they want Melo, but I don't think they want to give Love up to get him.
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Yeah if they give up love then it's just a sideways move for them still not better or worse than they were before
 
yuyuza1 said:
Lebron is making it abundantly clear that he wants his options open next summer. No way he recruits Melo to CLE now given all their drama and front office turmoil. I think Melo is going to realize there are few options for him outside of NY (where they don't really want him either).
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This is correct, also... let's not forget the banana boat players are ALL free agents next summer...
 
BonesJones said:
Fun question: Would a Dame, CJ, Nurkic, Carmelo, and Wade core be enough to convince Lebron to come to POR?

He'd be able to win another ring, and play with his buddy Carmelo.
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Even if Melo and Wade agreed to come here, would the Cavs want anything we have in a s&t? Because we obviously couldn't afford to bring him in as a free agent.

Also, this would never happen because we are Portland... and we don't get to be happy lol
 
chzbrgr said:
Yeah if they give up love then it's just a sideways move for them still not better or worse than they were before
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We know that, but there is supposedly a growing rift between LeBron and KLove. Whether it makes them better, or not, I think LeBron would rather play with Melo than Love.

Shit, CLE should just make LeBron their GM. The position is open and he's the one calling the shots anyway. Might was well make it official. We've had player-coaches, LeBron can be the first player-GM.

BNM
 
Okay so how exaclty would we get Melo and Wade and still have dame, CJ and Nurk and why would we want to shorten our window so drastically?
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Even if Melo and Wade agreed to come here, would the Cavs want anything we have in a s&t? Because we obviously couldn't afford to bring him in as a free agent.

Also, this would never happen because we are Portland... and we don't get to be happy lol
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Vonleh, Collins, Crabbe, Leonard, three future 1sts,

I'm talking about next off-season, with this never-gonna-happen hypothetical. Basically, would adding Melo and Wade (Lebron's buddies) be enough to convince him to sign here?
 
Schilly said:
Okay so how exaclty would we get Melo and Wade and still have dame, CJ and Nurk and why would we want to shorten our window so drastically?
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I'm not advocating anything or speculating on the moves to do so.

Just asking the question, would Lebron consider POR as a destination if we added Wade and Melo.
 
BonesJones said:
Vonleh, Collins, Crabbe, Leonard, three future 1sts,

I'm talking about next off-season, with this never-gonna-happen hypothetical. Basically, would adding Melo and Wade (Lebron's buddies) be enough to convince him to sign here?
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Probably not, I don't think LeBron wants to play in the west no matter what. Makes sense too as he can walk to the finals in the east.
 
BonesJones said:
20 million irrelevant stats coming soon....
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Completely unnecessary. The only stat that matters is the salary cap. How, exactly are we adding Wade, Melo and Lebron AND extending Nurk? Might as well say we're getting Westbrook and George, too.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
Completely unnecessary. The only stat that matters is the salary cap. How, exactly are we adding Wade, Melo and Lebron AND extending Nurk? Might as well say we're getting Westbrook and George, too.

BNM
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Dude, I literally brought it up as a fun question to think about, not as a possibility. I'm not advocating even trying or saying it's possible.

The question was simply: Would Lebron consider Portland if we managed to add those two friends of his to our core?

Not saying that we could, or would, or should try.
 
Schilly said:
Okay so how exaclty would we get Melo and Wade and still have dame, CJ and Nurk and why would we want to shorten our window so drastically?
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It could be done rather easily. But should we? Is it worth it?
 
BonesJones said:
Dude, I literally brought it up as a fun question to think about, not as a possibility. I'm not advocating even trying or saying it's possible.

The question was simply: Would Lebron consider Portland if we managed to add those two friends of his to our core?

Not saying that we could, or would, or should try.
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Then the answer is no. Wade and Melo will just opt out and join LeBron with the team of his choice.

BNM
 
BonesJones said:
Dude, I literally brought it up as a fun question to think about, not as a possibility. I'm not advocating even trying or saying it's possible.

The question was simply: Would Lebron consider Portland if we managed to add those two friends of his to our core?

Not saying that we could, or would, or should try.
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Hmm...played with it a bit, and this actually isn't terrible. NY gets the SF they want to replace Melo, and simply swaps one overpaid SG for another (younger) one. CHI gets a SG replacement for Wade, and gets a couple young prospects and an expiring PF for their trouble. And we really don't give up anything of massive value, except perhaps Harkless, whom most say needs to be upgraded anyway.

Granted, CHI could probably get a better return than this for Wade, but I don't think it's too far off.

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PtldPlatypus said:
Hmm...played with it a bit, and this actually isn't terrible. NY gets the SF they want to replace Melo, and simply swaps one overpaid SG for another (younger) one. CHI gets a SG replacement for Wade, and gets a couple young prospects and an expiring PF for their trouble. And we really don't give up anything of massive value, except perhaps Harkless, whom most say needs to be upgraded anyway.

Granted, CHI could probably get a better return than this for Wade, but I don't think it's too far off.

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I would do that.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I would do that.
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Dame/Turner
CJ/Wade
Melo/Layman
Aminu/Swanigan
Nurk/Collins/Leonard

I'd probably hope for them to use their MLE to get a vet backup PG and move Turner to backup 3, but aside from that it looks very interesting to me.

I think the Knicks probably would do it too. The Bulls are the question. I tried to give them decent value, but there's only so much you can do.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I think the Knicks probably would too. The Bulls are the question. I tried to give them decent value, but there's only so much you can do.
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He's no use to them.... they dumped Butler for young players.

I think Vonleh and maybe a pick would be enough.

Is it worth it to us though? That's an awful lot to give up for a one year rental..... but that's exactly the kind of trade that Bob would have made.
 
Natebishop3 said:
He's no use to them.... they dumped Butler for young players.

I think Vonleh and maybe a pick would be enough.

Is it worth it to us though? That's an awful lot to give up for a one year rental..... but that's exactly the kind of trade that Bob would have made.
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If that's the case, the same deal with PCNGC instead of Napier also works (and makes more sense for us).

And is Crabbe/Harkless/Vonleh really all that much to give up for a pair of 1-year rentals? Especially considering Vonleh's up for RFA next summer, and Crabbe's so severely overpaid?

I mean, if it hypothetically happened (using PC), and then Wade/Melo left next summer, we'd still have as of summer 2018:

Dame/Napier
CJ/Turner
Aminu/Layman
Swanigan/Collins
Nurkic/Leonard

That's still basically a full squad, still with youth and potential, and back to decent financial flexibility.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Lebron is making it abundantly clear that he wants his options open next summer. No way he recruits Melo to CLE now given all their drama and front office turmoil.
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Considering Anthony has an opt-out after next season, I could see James wanting him on Cleveland. He's not forcing a friend to commit there any longer than he's committed there.

I don't think he wants Anthony instead of Love, though. While James may not be great friends with Love, he knows Love is basically one-third of their entire talent base. He wants to close the gap on Golden State, not ship out of their only good players to get a declining Anthony.
 
Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
 
e_blazer said:
Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
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Pippen! without a doubt
 
e_blazer said:
Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
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I would take Pippen over Melo any day.
 
e_blazer said:
Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
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Pippen was still an excellent defender, ball-handler, distributor, and overall leader. Melo brings very little aside from inefficient scoring ability.

No contest.
 
e_blazer said:
Here's a question that's maybe deserving of it's own thread...but then there're more than enough Melo threads around here:

If the Blazers were able to acquire Carmelo from the Knicks, who would be the more valuable aging star Blazers acquisition, Carmelo Anthony or Scottie Pippen?

Pippen was a 34 years old seven time All-Star who was acquired in 1999 for a package of Stacey Augmon, Kelvin Cato, Ed Gray, Carlos Rogers, Brian Shaw and Walt Williams.

Carmelo is 33 years old. He's been an All-Star ten times.
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Pippen, easily. He was about as efficient a scorer, still a really good distributor and still one of the best defenders in the game. The value he brought beyond just personal production was that he was capable of being the "quarterback" on both offense and defense, communicating and making sure everyone was on the same page. I remember during the Western Conference Finals, Phil Jackson said something like, "We have Shaq and Kobe, but they have Pippen who's kind of keeping it all together for them."

Anthony largely just brings scoring (more than Pippen at that point in his career, but on similar efficiency).
 
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