The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

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Glamor brings players. The glamor can be the city (LA, New York, Miami) or it can be the team (multiple All-Stars). Something has to be exciting to draw players. Being a good team in a good city with generally good people is fine and all, but not exciting. Money is rarely an inducement because the max evens that playing field. If you can get your money anywhere, you want something that adds some sparkle to the situation.

If Lillard and McCollum can make the All-Star team, or Lillard and Nurkic, or something like that, that would be a start. Most likely, though, Portland would need to be dominant--a dominant year would both add an aura to the team and probably win two or three All Star nods. That would put them in the national picture.
 
dviss1 said:
Bruh, CJ be feelin' it!
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Minstrel said:
Glamor brings players. The glamor can be the city (LA, New York, Miami) or it can be the team (multiple All-Stars). Something has to be exciting to draw players. Being a good team in a good city with generally good people is fine and all, but not exciting. Money is rarely an inducement because the max evens that playing field. If you can get your money anywhere, you want something that adds some sparkle to the situation.

If Lillard and McCollum can make the All-Star team, or Lillard and Nurkic, or something like that, that would be a start. Most likely, though, Portland would need to be dominant--a dominant year would both add an aura to the team and probably win two or three All Star nods. That would put them in the national picture.
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I agree with most of this, although we've seen that a glamour destination hasn't done squat lately for the Lakers, Knicks or Heat. I'd put being a legitimate contender light years ahead of glamour when it comes to attracting free agents. Obviously, being a glamour city with a contending team is the best of all possible situations. But as far as being able to make a trade for a player, not a free agent signing, the most important things are that the Blazers' other assets increase in value by playing well and, to a lesser degree, that the team be a seen as having a rising future so that the player acquired in trade isn't looking to immediately jump ship.
 
dviss1 said:
They're so well spoken!!!?!! :devilwink:
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I'm going to go out of my way this year to find interviews with Meyers or Layman or Collins just so I can comment on how well-spoken they are. #equality

On the other hand, I might also make a point to talk about Vonleh's "sneaky athleticism", call Swanigan a "gym rat", and talk about Dame and CJ as guys who "play the right way". You know just to balance things out.
 
e_blazer said:
I agree with most of this, although we've seen that a glamour destination hasn't done squat lately for the Lakers, Knicks or Heat. I'd put being a legitimate contender light years ahead of glamour when it comes to attracting free agents. Obviously, being a glamour city with a contending team is the best of all possible situations.
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Contention is necessary but not sufficient. The Knicks and Lakers have been fielding a couple of the worst teams in basketball. Glamorous cities aren't bridging that gap (at least, not all the time--but Irving is interested in New York, Paul George and Russell Westbrook are both considered possible Lakers recruits). Miami did build the first true free-agent fueled superteam and basically always get sit-downs with every major free agent. Even when the Blazers contend, they're not generally a hot free agent destination. I do believe that if Oden and Roy had not gotten hurt and had (along with Aldridge and Batum) formed a glittering dynasty, Portland would have been a glamor team. Because of the multiple All-Stars. You need a hook. Portland, even when they're good, generally doesn't have one. They're nice all around but with no "wow" factor.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I'm going to go out of my way this year to find interviews with Meyers or Layman or Collins just so I can comment on how well-spoken they are. #equality

On the other hand, I might also make a point to talk about Vonleh's "sneaky athleticism", call Swanigan a "gym rat", and talk about Dame and CJ as guys who "play the right way". You know just to balance things out.
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Collins has the "ya, know" syndrome. LOL.
 
Minstrel said:
Contention is necessary but not sufficient. The Knicks and Lakers have been fielding a couple of the worst teams in basketball. Glamorous cities aren't bridging that gap (at least, not all the time--but Irving is interested in New York, Paul George and Russell Westbrook are both considered possible Lakers recruits). Miami did build the first true free-agent fueled superteam and basically always get sit-downs with every major free agent. Even when the Blazers contend, they're not generally a hot free agent destination. I do believe that if Oden and Roy had not gotten hurt and had (along with Aldridge and Batum) formed a glittering dynasty, Portland would have been a glamor team. Because of the multiple All-Stars. You need a hook. Portland, even when they're good, generally doesn't have one. They're nice all around but with no "wow" factor.
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Again, I'm not talking about free agent signings. In all likelihood, due to cap constraints Portland is not going to be in a position to make a free agent signing for the next three or four years. What I'm talking about is: 1. Having attractive enough assets to be able to provide enticing compensation to the sending team when the next disgruntled star wants to be traded, and 2. Being a reasonable contender so that the incoming player will at least give the Blazers a shot before looking to leave for other pastures.
 
e_blazer said:
Again, I'm not talking about free agent signings. In all likelihood, due to cap constraints Portland is not going to be in a position to make a free agent signing for the next three or four years. What I'm talking about is: 1. Having attractive enough assets to be able to provide enticing compensation to the sending team when the next disgruntled star wants to be traded, and 2. Being a reasonable contender so that the incoming player will at least give the Blazers a shot before looking to leave for other pastures.
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Okay, but I think "being attractive to free agents" and "being attractive to traded veterans who could leave" have the same root causes. So what I said about drawing free agents I'd say is still true for being a team that can retain traded-for stars.
 
all I can say is this has been one helluva fun and interesting offseason! AND there appear a lot for fireworks left with Kyrie and Melo likely to be moved
 
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