The T-Rob Watch

[Fez Hammersticks]

Third straight DNP-CD...

The time that he has played so far this season has been garbage time...

Five of the seven pre-season games was in garbage time...

Option not picked up, it's a contract year...

How long until his agent starts to put Neil's feet to the fire to get him to another team?

 

[fumanchu]

I think TRob will be directly responsible for 1 win this year. That alone is worth keeping him as our 12th man.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think TRob will be directly responsible for 1 win this year. That alone is worth keeping him as our 12th man.

I think he already has been. There has been a few games this season where his energy turned games around

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think he already has been. There has been a few games this season where his energy turned games around

Name one. The only game where his energy has made a significant positive contribution was the GSW game, and we lost that one.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

Name one. The only game where his energy has made a significant positive contribution was the GSW game, and we lost that one.

BNM

I seem to remember Cleveland and Dallas he made a big difference. Didn't we struggle early in those games? I am pretty sure we did. He and Barton made huge impacts with their energy.

 

[Natebishop3]

If we're not going to play him, trade him. I'm sure someone would take a flyer on him. I would trade Robinson, Barton, and Wright for a wing.

 

[magnifier661]

If we're not going to play him, trade him. I'm sure someone would take a flyer on him. I would trade Robinson, Barton, and Wright for a wing.

Who? I wouldn't be close minded about it.

I don't know if you've noticed from the last game, t.rob's thumb was taped up pretty bad. I don't know if he maybe injured

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Who? I wouldn't be close minded about it.

I don't know if you've noticed from the last game, t.rob's thumb was taped up pretty bad. I don't know if he maybe injured

Anyone who would be good enough to play?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Anyone who would be good enough to play?

I don't think it is a talent issue as much as a number crunch issue and POR wanting to keep his next contract down if at all possible.

With that said, I would certainly trade him in some deals.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I seem to remember Cleveland and Dallas he made a big difference. Didn't we struggle early in those games? I am pretty sure we did. He and Barton made huge impacts with their energy.

Nope, in fact the Cleveland game was the exact opposite of what you "remember".

The only thing we struggled with in the Cleveland game was stopping LeBron in the 1st quarter. Our offense was firing on all cylinders and scored 31 points in the first quarter. Then Robinson, Barter and the rest of the bench entered the game at the start of the 2nd and we scored a total of 7 points in 6 minutes. We were down by three when Robinson entered the game and down by 3 when he left. In the final 6 minutes of the 2nd after Robinson and Barton left the game and the starters re-entered we went on a 17-9 run and took a lead that we never relinquished. The starters extended that lead in the 3rd quarter (mostly by shutting down LeBron) and we won going away. Robinson's and Barton's "energy" had nothing to do with that win. The only time we struggled to score in that entire game was when they were both on the court during the first 6 minutes of the second quarter.

Our bench did give us a boost in the Dallas game, but but it wasn't Robinson and Barton, it was McCollum and Kaman that gave the bench a collective +3 points at the start of the 2nd quarter. That was C.J.'s best game of the season (so far) with 13 points and 3-4 3FG. But, as usual, if was the starters that won that game for us. The starters (plus Blake and Kaman) went on an 35-18 tear in the 3rd quarter to put that game away. Neither Robinson nor Barton played one second in the decisive 3rd quarter. Their only "contributions" came during 4th quarter garbage time with the game already decided. I know there is more to "energy" than stats, but if that energy doesn't lead to anything positive, it's wasted. What I see when Robinson and Barton enter the game is an occasional spectacular, amazingly athletic play combined with a shit ton of stupid, unforced turnovers, dumb fouls and blown defensive assignments. Yes, our bench did give us a boost in the Dallas game, but it was Kaman, Blake and McCollum (especially Kaman and Blake in the decisive 3rd quarter). Even counting their garbage time contributions, Robinson and Barton scored a combined 3 points on 1-5 shooting, had 4 REB, 3 AST and 4 TOV. By comparison, Kaman. Blake and McCollum scored a combined 33 points on 13 of 19 FG (5 of 8 3FG), 9 REB, 6 AST and only 1 TOV.

Your memory seems to be failing you. Seems more like wishful thinking than an accurate version of the actual events as they occurred.

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

Who? I wouldn't be close minded about it.

I don't know if you've noticed from the last game, t.rob's thumb was taped up pretty bad. I don't know if he maybe injured

At this point, I would trade for Corey Brewer. I still think we need one scorer off the bench.

 

[magnifier661]

At this point, I would trade for Corey Brewer. I still think we need one scorer off the bench.

I don't think brewer is that guy you are talking about. He seems to be a more defensive player. Most his scoring comes from fast break and slashes to the basket right? I haven't paid much attention

 

[Mediocre Man]

Nope, in fact the Cleveland game was the exact opposite of what you "remember".

The only thing we struggled with in the Cleveland game was stopping LeBron in the 1st quarter. Our offense was firing on all cylinders and scored 31 points in the first quarter. Then Robinson, Barter and the rest of the bench entered the game at the start of the 2nd and we scored a total of 7 points in 6 minutes. We were down by three when Robinson entered the game and down by 3 when he left. In the final 6 minutes of the 2nd after Robinson and Barton left the game and the starters re-entered we went on a 17-9 run and took a lead that we never relinquished. The starters extended that lead in the 3rd quarter (mostly by shutting down LeBron) and we won going away. Robinson's and Barton's "energy" had nothing to do with that win. The only time we struggled to score in that entire game was when they were both on the court during the first 6 minutes of the second quarter.

Our bench did give us a boost in the Dallas game, but but it wasn't Robinson and Barton, it was McCollum and Kaman that gave the bench a collective +3 points at the start of the 2nd quarter. That was C.J.'s best game of the season (so far) with 13 points and 3-4 3FG. But, as usual, if was the starters that won that game for us. The starters (plus Blake and Kaman) went on an 35-18 tear in the 3rd quarter to put that game away. Neither Robinson nor Barton played one second in the decisive 3rd quarter. Their only "contributions" came during 4th quarter garbage time with the game already decided. I know there is more to "energy" than stats, but if that energy doesn't lead to anything positive, it's wasted. What I see when Robinson and Barton enter the game is an occasional spectacular, amazingly athletic play combined with a shit ton of stupid, unforced turnovers, dumb fouls and blown defensive assignments. Yes, our bench did give us a boost in the Dallas game, but it was Kaman, Blake and McCollum (especially Kaman and Blake in the decisive 3rd quarter). Even counting their garbage time contributions, Robinson and Barton scored a combined 3 points on 1-5 shooting, had 4 REB, 3 AST and 4 TOV. By comparison, Kaman. Blake and McCollum scored a combined 33 points on 13 of 19 FG (5 of 8 3FG), 9 REB, 6 AST and only 1 TOV.

Your memory seems to be failing you. Seems more like wishful thinking than an accurate version of the actual events as they occurred.

BNM

No, you are wrong. You keep speaking of scoring, instead of actual overall impact. Than again, any reason to stalk me on this site, I guess?

 

[PDXFonz]

If we're not going to play him, trade him. I'm sure someone would take a flyer on him. I would trade Robinson, Barton, and Wright for a wing.

He would probably be happy in Phoenix with his FOE.

 

[Natebishop3]

He would probably be happy in Phoenix with his FOE.

If we could get Gerald Green, I would be ecstatic, but I'm not sure what Phoenix would want. I doubt Robinson/Barton/Wright would be enough.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I didn't like it then and certainly don't like it now but Morey won that trade.

K-Pap shot isn't falling and still adjusting to the speed of the NBA but he's smart and knows where to be.

Right now Robinson's trade value is at an all-time low - he's fodder/filler/exp. deal.

 

[Boob-No-More]

No, you are wrong. You keep speaking of scoring, instead of actual overall impact.

No, I'm not wrong. If the relative score of the game doesn't change from the time he enters to the time he leaves, how exactly did he have a positive impact on the outcome of the game? I wasn't talking about Robinson's individual scoring (which is abysmal), I was specifically referring to overall impact on the game. You mentioned "remembering" the team struggling against Cleveland until Robinson and his "energy" entered the game when the exact opposite was true. The ONLY time the TEAM struggled against Cleveland was WHILE Robinson was in the game. He had absolutely no positive overall impact on that game. The starters won that game, not the bench and certainly not TRob. We took the lead and pulled away while Robinson was on the bench. How exactly did his "overall impact" win that game for us?

Than again, any reason to stalk me on this site, I guess?

You need to get over yourself. Responding to your posts is not stalking you. That's how this forum thing works. People post their thoughts and other people respond. If you don't want people to respond, don't post.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I didn't like it then and certainly don't like it now but Morey won that trade.

K-Pap shot isn't falling and still adjusting to the speed of the NBA but he's smart and knows where to be.

Right now Robinson's trade value is at an all-time low - he's fodder/filler/exp. deal.

Has his trade value ever been high? Sacramento gave up on him halfway through his rookie year after making him a top 5 pick in the draft.. Houston gave up on him after just 19 games. Now, he can't get ff the bench for us. The guy just doesn't get it. He is now in his third season and hasn't shown any improvement since he entered the league and STILL makes rookie mistakes. The ONLY hope for this guy it to get a ton of PT and hope he plays through his mistakes and learns from them. That's not going to happen here, or on any playoff team. He needs to go to a crappy team with no other option at starting power forward and even then, it's doubtful he'll ever amount to much.

He's been described as a poor man's Hickson and a less rapey Ruben Patterson - I wish. He's not close to either at this point, and probably never will be. Of course, I hope he proves me wrong, but I wouldn't bet on it.

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

If we could get Gerald Green, I would be ecstatic, but I'm not sure what Phoenix would want. I doubt Robinson/Barton/Wright would be enough.

Why does Green's name keep coming up? Has there been trade speculation about him? He started 48 games last year. Phoenix seems to like him. He seems like a long shot to me.

Personally I think we need another PG. If Blake or Dame gets hurt we are screwed. We may want to save any trade assets for an injury.
Once CJ is back, he and Crabbe and Kaman and Joel will provide enough scoring. Sure I would like to add someone really good to come off our bench, but that will only happen closer to the deadline when some teams know they are out of it. And that is a long shot as well.

 

[Mediocre Man]

No, I'm not wrong. If the relative score of the game doesn't change from the time he enters to the time he leaves, how exactly did he have a positive impact on the outcome of the game? I wasn't talking about Robinson's individual scoring (which is abysmal), I was specifically referring to overall impact on the game. You mentioned "remembering" the team struggling against Cleveland until Robinson and his "energy" entered the game when the exact opposite was true. The ONLY time the TEAM struggled against Cleveland was WHILE Robinson was in the game. He had absolutely no positive overall impact on that game. The starters won that game, not the bench and certainly not TRob. We took the lead and pulled away while Robinson was on the bench. How exactly did his "overall impact" win that game for us?



You need to get over yourself. Responding to your posts is not stalking you. That's how this forum thing works. People post their thoughts and other people respond. If you don't want people to respond, don't post.

Nope, just you. Other people are fine.

 

[tlongII]

No, you are wrong. You keep speaking of scoring, instead of actual overall impact. Than again, any reason to stalk me on this site, I guess?

It sucks when you're wrong, doesn't it?

 

[Mediocre Man]

It sucks when you're wrong, doesn't it?

I've heard it does

 

[riverman]

I think we'll see guys on the end of the bench move to the middle and back again quite a few times before it's all said and done. Having talent at the bottom of the bench is a good problem. TRob and Will played themselves out of the rotation on their own. Stotts has put a cap on how long he'll experiment with bench players. It's like dodge ball..get hit and you're out.

 

[tester551]

I don't think brewer is that guy you are talking about. He seems to be a more defensive player. Most his scoring comes from fast break and slashes to the basket right? I haven't paid much attention

We need that skill on this team.

Brewer would be fantastic on this team for 15-20 minutes a game. He would just need to play primarily with Dame & LMA and let Wes & Nick be a primary option with the bench players.

 

[magnifier661]

We need that skill on this team.

Brewer would be fantastic on this team for 15-20 minutes a game. He would just need to play primarily with Dame & LMA and let Wes & Nick be a primary option with the bench players.

I would agree that's the role we should be looking for. The post was a reply to someone placing Brewer as our scorer off the bench

 

[PDXFonz]

T-Rob is a beast but he will never reach his potential here.

 

[kjironman1]

Oh? I thought this was like a "Black Friday" type special on wrist watches with TRob's face on em?
Had my credit card ready....

 

[BlazerWookee]

Oh? I thought this was like a "Black Friday" type special on wrist watches with TRob's face on em?
Had my credit card ready....

I was working on an answer like this, but it'd take too much effort to top this one. Repped!