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The sentencing will be down the road, then the appeals will happen. His supports won't believe it. I think I read each could has 4 year maximum sentence, but if he was sentenced to jail it would all be concurrently.
 
twobullz said:
The sentencing will be down the road, then the appeals will happen. His supports won't believe it. I think I read each could has 4 year maximum sentence, but if he was sentenced to jail it would all be concurrently.
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He won't get the max, but that's 136 years.
 
twobullz said:
He would only serve 4 years because they would all be served at the same time, not that he will get sentenced to the maximum of 4 years.
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Isn't it up to the judge whether he serves them concurrently or consecutively? And why should anyone get them concurrently? That's basically saying that after the first the other 33 are freebies.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Isn't it up to the judge whether he serves them concurrently or consecutively? And why should anyone get them concurrently? That's basically saying that after the first the other 33 are freebies.
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Not saying I agree with, just how I understand it. Of course I will be surprised if he gets any jail time and instead gets a fine.
 
twobullz said:
He would only serve 4 years because they would all be served at the same time, not that he will get sentenced to the maximum of 4 years.
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Oh, concurrently yeah
 
twobullz said:
Not saying I agree with, just how I understand it. Of course I will be surprised if he gets any jail time and instead gets a fine.
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Probably a fine and maybe home arrest. But that's no real punishment. His supporters will just pay his fine for him, and having to chill at Mar a Lago is hardly punishment. Though, he won't be able to to rallies or go out on the campaign trail. Daily rallies and campaign press conferences at Mar a Lago?
 
Chris Craig said:
Probably a fine and may home arrest. But that's no real punishment. His supporters will just pay his fine for him, and having to chill at Mar a Lago is hardly punishment. Though, he won't be able to to rallies or go out on the campaign trail. Daily rallies and campaign press conferences at Mar a Lago?
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In this case he needs to serve in New York State so Trump Tower would be for house arrest but that's hardly punishment for 34 felony indictments. He should go to Rikers just like his accountant did...no internet or fancy food at all. No special treatment for a serial crook like this guy. Act like a mobster, do the time like a mobster. Let his cell mates chant...4 more years while they rattle the bars when he gets there!
 
riverman said:
In this case he needs to serve in New York State so Trump Tower would be for house arrest but that's hardly punishment for 34 felony indictments. He should go to Rikers just like his accountant did...no internet or fancy food at all. No special treatment for a serial crook like this guy. Act like a mobster, do the time like a mobster. Let his cell mates chant...4 more years while they rattle the bars when he gets there!
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He should go to jail. Just like all the people did that he threw under the bus.

Yeah, he can even throw his mystery meatloaf at the wall if he wants.

4 more years of prison! 4 more years!
 
Chris Craig said:
Probably a fine and maybe home arrest. But that's no real punishment. His supporters will just pay his fine for him, and having to chill at Mar a Lago is hardly punishment. Though, he won't be able to to rallies or go out on the campaign trail. Daily rallies and campaign press conferences at Mar a Lago?
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He should be banned from posting on any and all social media - that would drive him crazy(er)!
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Can he even vote for himself?
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Looks like Florida's laws will still allow him to vote. He only loses his right to vote if he is in prison.

"New York only disenfranchises people while serving a prison sentence, so assuming Trump is not sentenced to prison time, his rights would be restored by New York law and therefore also in Florida," Bowie said. "
 
julius said:
the phrase "self hating" comes to mind.
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Peter Thiel is so self hating he funded a conservative dating site, which folded because women didn't want to date Trump men, that he couldn't use himself because it was hetero only.
 
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Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict

May 31 - Supporters of former President Donald Trump, enraged by his conviction on 34 felony counts by a New York jury, flooded pro-Trump websites with calls for riots, revolution and violent retribution.

After Trump became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, his supporters responded with dozens of violent online posts, according to a Reuters review of comments on three Trump-aligned websites: the former president's own Truth Social platform, Patriots.Win and the Gateway Pundit.

Some called for attacks on jurors, the execution of the judge, Justice Juan Merchan, or outright civil war and armed insurrection.

“Someone in NY with nothing to lose needs to take care of Merchan,” wrote one commentator on Patriots.Win. “Hopefully he gets met with illegals with a machete,” the post said in reference to illegal immigrants.

On Gateway Pundit, one poster suggested shooting liberals after the verdict. “Time to start capping some leftys,” said the post. “This cannot be fixed by voting."

Threats of violence and intimidating rhetoric soared after Trump lost the 2020 election and falsely claimed the vote was stolen. As he campaigns for a second White House term, Trump has baselessly cast the judges and prosecutors in his trials as corrupt tools of the Biden administration, intent on sabotaging his White House bid. His loyalists have responded with a campaign of threats and intimidation targeting judges and court officials.

“This was a disgrace, this was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt,” Trump told reporters afterwards, echoing comments he often made during the trial.

A 12-member jury found Trump guilty on Thursday of falsifying documents to cover up a payment to silence a porn star’s account of a sexual encounter ahead of the 2016 election. Sentencing is set for July 11, days before the Republican Party is scheduled to formally nominate Trump for president ahead of the Nov. 5 election. Trump has denied wrongdoing and is expected to appeal.

Trump continued his attacks online after the verdict.

On Truth Social, he called Merchan “HIGHLY CONFLICTED” and criticized his jury instructions as unfair. One commentator responded by posting a picture of a hangman's platform and a noose with the caption: “TREASONOUS MOBSTER OF THE JUSTICES SYSTEM!!”

Jacob Ware, a co-author of the book “God, Guns, and Sedition: Far-Right Terrorism in America”, said the violent language used by Trump’s followers was testament to the former president’s “ironclad ability to mobilize more extreme supporters to action, both at the ballot box and through violence.”

“Until and unless he accepts the process, the extremist reaction to his legal troubles will be militant,” said Ware, a research fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”

All three sites have policies against violent language, and some of the posts were later removed. Representatives of Patriots.Win and Gateway Pundit did not immediately return requests for comment. A Trump spokesperson also did not respond to an email seeking comment.

“HANG EVERYONE”

After Thursday's verdict, many of his supporters also said that his conviction was proof that the American political system was broken and that only violent action could save the country.

“1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to Washington and hang everyone. That's the only solution,” said one poster on Patriots.win. Another added: “Trump should already know he has an army willing to fight and die for him if he says the words...I’ll take up arms if he asks.”

Other posts specifically urged targeting Democrats, in some cases suggesting they be shot. “AMERICA FULLY DESTROYED BY DEMOCRATS. LOCK AND LOAD,” wrote a commentator on Gateway Pundit.

While the posts identified by Reuters all called for violence or insurrection, most fell short of the legal standard for a prosecutable threat, which typically requires evidence that the comment reflects a clear intent to act or instill fear, rather than simply suggesting a frightening outcome.

Still, one researcher who studies extremist militias said the guilty verdict could inspire violence by reinforcing a conviction among some of Trump's supporters that he's a victim of a conspiracy orchestrated by his enemies.

“I do think a lot of these folks have been looking for an excuse to maybe mobilize for a while,” said Amy Cooter of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies’ Center on Terrorism, Extremism and Counterterrorism. “I hope I’m wrong. I’ve said for a long time, though, that I would not be shocked to see violence result from a guilty verdict, either directed toward the jurors” or others connected to the case.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...violent-retribution-after-verdict-2024-05-31/
 
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