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beast blazer said:
This is MAGA country!
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How many votes does a blade of grass get? Or is it the superior number of rocks that get all the vote?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Don't forget they complain about all govt employees being incompetent without knowing how things work. They also don't want govt employees getting paid a decent wage.
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Yep. And very soon government employees will be fewer and less experienced. And that will justify further cuts in services.

barfo
 
I don't call em DemoRats for noting. The people who ordered this should be executed.
 
jonnyboy said:
I’ve said plenty of times right here on this forum that i support simgle payer healthcare or medicare for all. Still do. I also speak out against all these wars that cost trillions.

It’s almost like if one went away the other would be possible. Yall seem to like the wars too much though, or at least support the clowns behind them so what’s one to do? I’d suggest riding someone else’s ass about it instead of the guy in the basketball forum. Maybe people should quit celebrating the peanuts that get chucked spitefully at their foreheads and start demanding something more with their tax dollars instead of 3rd world healthcare with a few useless concessions.
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We agree on healthcare.

Why do you think we love war? We don't.

We do demand it and we get called radical and communist.
 
barfo said:
What is 'this'?

barfo
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The forum has been acting whacky lately. I tried to post a link to the X comment I was referring to. But it's come out that FEMA advised their employees to avoid houses with Trump signs, in Florida after Hurricane Helene.
 
beast blazer said:
The forum has been acting whacky lately. I tried to post a link to the X comment I was referring to. But it's come out that FEMA advised their employees to avoid houses with Trump signs, in Florida after Hurricane Helene.
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Well don't want to get shot.

There were all those right militias out to stop Fema workers based on misinformation. Not surprised Fema is warming their people.
 
beast blazer said:
The forum has been acting whacky lately. I tried to post a link to the X comment I was referring to. But it's come out that FEMA advised their employees to avoid houses with Trump signs, in Florida after Hurricane Helene.
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I hear Denny made a deal with Musk and this forum is going to turn into a TwiX Space. So you should probably get used to the glitching
 
Phatguysrule said:
I hear Denny made a deal with Musk and this forum is going to turn into a TwiX Space. So you should probably get used to the glitching
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I'm pretty sure one of the mods is messing with me. It's only funky when I'm logged in and happens on every device/browser.
 
beast blazer said:
I'm pretty sure one of the mods is messing with me. It's only funky when I'm logged in and happens on every device/browser.
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How would a mod be doing that? Come on.
 
Some of you might be interested to see what Justice Department officials really think about the cases brought against Trump. Here is what they say behind closed doors.
 
Dun, dun dun...another one bites the dust! Sentencing to be delayed until after Trump's presidency is over. Matt Gaetz will prosecute the corrupt officials who went after him with lawfare as well.
 
beast blazer said:
Dun, dun dun...another one bites the dust! Sentencing to be delayed until after Trump's presidency is over. Matt Gaetz will prosecute the corrupt officials who went after him with lawfare as well.
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Garland had every right to refuse. Gaetz has not been confirmed as the AG, therefore he has no right to demand anything. And then there's that pesky little fact that he is himself under investigation for very legitimate reasons. Typical right wing clown, barking at the moon.....
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Obamacare made it illegal for insurance to have a lifetime benefit limit. Many insurance companies before Obamacare had that amount at $1 million for you and your spouse and kids. Now, they no longer have a benefit limit and can't kick you off your plan forever once you reach that.

$1 million in Healthcare is not that much anymore, especially if one of you get in a car accident, get cancer, or many other health problems.

Do you understand why that is a good thing?
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I remember my workplace health insurance premiums being higher because I am a woman. Women were charged higher premiums than men for same plan. No longer legal. Also, birth control wasn't covered.
Insurance companies could refuse to cover pre-existing conditions. Others had waiting periods before pre- existing condition was covered. I worked at a company that decided to change health insurers so any care for existing conditions was stopped for a six month waiting period. One woman was pregnant and couldn't get prenatal care covered. Her husband was independent contractor so he had insurance through her. They made too much for Medicaid. She was stuck with the bill.
The good old days
 
JFizzleRaider said:
If it means people aren't kicked off their plans for a cancer diagnosis and treatment are you willing to pay a little bit higher premium?
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I'm fine paying a little more but it's not a little more ... I appreciate that it saves lives but it's a marginally better scenario than we had before. Insurance companies are still a giant scam for the most part even if they do some good. I get it, it's all about the small gains hopefully becoming the big gains but these companies are still raking in the money while denying a lot of people the procedures they need or fighting them over every little dollar. It's like Biden's plan to forgive student loans, it's a great thought and on the face people love it because 'YEA FREE MONEY' but it doesn't get to the root cause of the issue. Stop the wasteful spending and the game that these insurance companies and hospitals are playing while the American people are getting bent over by both.
 
bigbailes said:
I'm fine paying a little more but it's not a little more ... I appreciate that it saves lives but it's a marginally better scenario than we had before. Insurance companies are still a giant scam for the most part even if they do some good. I get it, it's all about the small gains hopefully becoming the big gains but these companies are still raking in the money while denying a lot of people the procedures they need or fighting them over every little dollar. It's like Biden's plan to forgive student loans, it's a great thought and on the face people love it because 'YEA FREE MONEY' but it doesn't get to the root cause of the issue. Stop the wasteful spending and the game that these insurance companies and hospitals are playing while the American people are getting bent over by both.
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Insurance companies both car and medical ARE scams, yes.

But all we can do is chisel away at them in hopes they can be taken down and regulated with consumers in mind, not shareholders.

So in that case, "marginally better" is better than what they were doing, and I hope down the line we continue to have "marginally better" than the previous iteration.
 
bigbailes said:
I'm fine paying a little more but it's not a little more ... I appreciate that it saves lives but it's a marginally better scenario than we had before. Insurance companies are still a giant scam for the most part even if they do some good. I get it, it's all about the small gains hopefully becoming the big gains but these companies are still raking in the money while denying a lot of people the procedures they need or fighting them over every little dollar. It's like Biden's plan to forgive student loans, it's a great thought and on the face people love it because 'YEA FREE MONEY' but it doesn't get to the root cause of the issue. Stop the wasteful spending and the game that these insurance companies and hospitals are playing while the American people are getting bent over by both.
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Medicare For All would have solved virtually all of this.
 
My neighbor is a Nurse of 15 years at hospital in Portland. She told me the other day it's crazy how many people hit the emergency room for simple non emergency stuff, which slows the unit down for those really dealing with an emergency. We have a culture of people that think they are sick one way or the other all the time and like to visit doctors or hospitals, when they could tough it out. Thats my take.....
 
Hoopguru said:
My neighbor is a Nurse of 15 years at hospital in Portland. She told me the other day it's crazy how many people hit the emergency room for simple non emergency stuff, which slows the unit down for those really dealing with an emergency. We have a culture of people that think they are sick one way or the other all the time and like to visit doctors or hospitals, when they could tough it out. Thats my take.....
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A big factor you might want to consider before telling people they’re weak for going to the emergency room: the emergency room has to see you, even if you don’t have insurance (or have shitty insurance). I’m not going to judge people who don’t have the money or insurance to book an appointment with urgent care or zoom care or whatever. A philosophy of sucking it up and just dealing with it helped kill my dad at 64 so I do have a different angle on things.
 
Everything Beagle said:
A big factor you might want to consider before telling people they’re weak for going to the emergency room: the emergency room has to see you, even if you don’t have insurance (or have shitty insurance). I’m not going to judge people who don’t have the money or insurance to book an appointment with urgent care or zoom care or whatever. A philosophy of sucking it up and just dealing with it helped kill my dad at 64 so I do have a different angle on things.
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There are a lot of people who go the emergency room for non emergencies, or things they should probably go to the doctors office for, but many people don't have insurance, and can't do that. The emergency room is easier and you don't have to pay up front and you either get instant confirmation you have something you should have come in for or you get instant relief that its not.

Sometimes people have symptoms and they are scared it could be something bad and go in the off chance it is. Most of the times it's not, but other times like in your dad's case or my mom's it's the bad thing that will kill you. So, I don't blame people for going.

There might be a lot of people that fill the ER, but there are ways of assessing who is in most need of help/worse off and helping them first.

Also, we did just have a pandemic with a killer sickness. People are more worried now when they get sick.
 
Everything Beagle said:
A big factor you might want to consider before telling people they’re weak for going to the emergency room: the emergency room has to see you, even if you don’t have insurance (or have shitty insurance). I’m not going to judge people who don’t have the money or insurance to book an appointment with urgent care or zoom care or whatever. A philosophy of sucking it up and just dealing with it helped kill my dad at 64 so I do have a different angle on things.
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Sorry about your father. I realize that people need to have emergency care available, I myself have used the ER. I was definitely to abrasive with my comment. My father had never been to or in a hospital till he was 72, ER that detected a tumor on his kidney.
 
Hoopguru said:
Sorry about your father. I realize that people need to have emergency care available, I myself have used the ER. I was definitely to abrasive with my comment. My father had never been to or in a hospital till he was 72, ER that detected a tumor on his kidney.
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Yeah, I don't like going to the hospital. I watched both my parents die in them and haven't been to an ER since. Though, I know there will come a day when I likely will need to go.

I have been to the ER over a couple handful of times in my life. Mostly for broken bones, or bad injuries.

I have gone there when my back locked up and I should have just stayed home for that one. But, sometimes you are like oh shit what do I do?

I have gone for chest pains. That's a common reason, one of if not the most common. People afraid they are having heart attacks. Most of the time it's heartburn or something that's pretty harmless. For me, it turned out I had a hiatal hernia. I ended up getting surgery to fix it. The surgeon told me I did it just in time. Any longer and I would have developed throat cancer. Sometimes going is the right thing to do. Better safe than sorry.
 
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