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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
I'll cop to saying that. And admitting it in at least one previous post. Sorry, not sorry. The world would have been a better place. Not that that is saying much..........
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We just got a ceasefire. So unless he ends up killing more than 100k people, I don't think your statement is true.
 
jonnyboy said:
I was just making a joke. The Overton window in this forum is so skewed even the smallest concessions made to Orange Person often get viewed as direct excerpts from Mein Kampf. Saying “I wish the Trump assassination attempt was successful” is a mild centrist position here.
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It's unfortunate that someone is more against a political party or candidate than they are FOR ending a genocide. These elitists don't have a party. RFK helping get red dye out of our food is also a win.

I've had to reiterate on NUMEROUS occasions that I am not a Trump supporter, and yet I get called that for pointing out anything bad the Democrats do or pointing out anything good Trump does.

Party over truth I guess for some people.
 
jonnyboy said:
Saying “I wish the Trump assassination attempt was successful” is a mild centrist position here.
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I bet it's the "mild centrist" position of the world taken as a whole. (I mean, it's not like wishing people dead is uncommon - people do it about people who cut them off in traffic.) It's the US that has shifted the Overton window to the right, not this forum to the left.

Seriously, the loss to Trump of being assassinated is miniscule compared to the harm to the world of him not. Utilitarianism is not an obscure, radical moral theory. The best case assassination opponents can make is that him getting assassinated would've made his followers go crazy, but more popular figures than him have been assassinated without that happening.
 
AmirIcon said:
RFK helping get red dye out of our food is also a win.
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Unquestionably, provided (a) it actually happens, and (b) he doesn't balance it out by doing far worse harm the other way, like by rotting the nation's teeth or damaging vaccination programs.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I bet it's the "mild centrist" position of the world taken as a whole. (I mean, it's not like wishing people dead is uncommon - people do it about people who cut them off in traffic.) It's the US that has shifted the Overton window to the right, not this forum to the left.

Seriously, the loss to Trump of being assassinated is miniscule compared to the harm to the world of him not. Utilitarianism is not an obscure, radical moral theory. The best case assassination opponents can make is that him getting assassinated would've made his followers go crazy, but more popular figures than him have been assassinated without that happening.
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When your justification for murder has to be constructed from multiple contrived hypotheticals all being loosely tied together, it sort of just reads like you making excuses for killing people you don’t like. I respect the effort you put into making it appear not psychotic though. Well done.
 
So many were blaming Americans for voting for Trump. So many blamed Muslims for not voting for Harris and making it worse for their brethren. A little humility please.



Anything but blame the Democratic leaders. The sooner you stop saying "blue no matter who" the sooner we can actually scare them into actually working for us instead of the elites.
 
AmirIcon said:
It's unfortunate that someone is more against a political party or candidate than they are FOR ending a genocide. These elitists don't have a party. RFK helping get red dye out of our food is also a win.

I've had to reiterate on NUMEROUS occasions that I am not a Trump supporter, and yet I get called that for pointing out anything bad the Democrats do or pointing out anything good Trump does.

Party over truth I guess for some people.
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Who’d you vote for
 
People weren’t exactly torn up when the UHC CEO was killed. People didn’t necessarily support murdering him…but they weren’t upset…because well US healthcare and he’s rich etc. Same with Trump. If he was killed in a fiery crash and his dismembered body was thrown all over Mar a Lago splattering Melanias face, I would not throw a party, but I would not be upset.
 
GoZers said:
People weren’t exactly torn up when the UHC CEO was killed. People didn’t necessarily support murdering him…but they weren’t upset…because well US healthcare and he’s rich etc. Same with Trump. If he was killed in a fiery crash and his dismembered body was thrown all over Mar a Lago splattering Melanias face, I would not throw a party, but I would not be upset.
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Reporter visited Trump Store in Trump Tower (there is also Trump Cafe and Trump Sweets). Not one item made in USA. Most made in China. One Bangladesh. Make America slave labor wages again!
 
Mike Johnson demoted chair of House intelligence committee. He is a conservative Republican but very pro Ukraine independence. Not approved by Putin's boy.
 
crandc said:
Mike Johnson demoted chair of House intelligence committee. He is a conservative Republican but very pro Ukraine independence. Not approved by Putin's boy.
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You’re telling me there’s a Trump puppet out there with an independent thought? I’m sure if asked about it now he’ll backtrack and deflect.
 
MickZagger said:
:biglaugh:

Getting rid of the IRS! Hahaha that’s good!

:mook:
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Not happening. Just the creation of some other unnecessary revenue service that's going to cost taxpayers more money.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Either TikTok should be allowed or all social media should be held at the same standard.

There should not be a specific rule or law about TikTok, IMO.
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TikTok was the biggest platform for sharing footage out of Gaza. Our Israeli-influenced government didn’t want people seeing their ethnic cleansing campaign in real time, so they decided to illegally shut them down as punishment. Too little too late though. Millions of young people are on the platform and saw the atrocities in horrifying detail. It’s a big part of why the Biden/Kamala festering neoliberal abscess was removed via the election.
 
jonnyboy said:
TikTok was the biggest platform for sharing footage out of Gaza. Our Israeli-influenced government didn’t want people seeing their ethnic cleansing campaign in real time, so they decided to illegally shut them down as punishment. Too little too late though. Millions of young people are on the platform and saw the atrocities in horrifying detail. It’s a big part of why the Biden/Kamala festering neoliberal abscess was removed via the election.
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Congrats, the establishment has successfully united the Chinese and American people and both are thoroughly seeing through their decades of propaganda.
 
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