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[Lanny]

Back in the mid sixties.

I cruised it back in 1966 so it had to have been either later that year or the next.

 

[MarAzul]

In the good ole days!
Down 6th and back up Broadway!
Hell, no one with a brain would want to do it today in that scurvy town.
It sucks down there!

 

[Hoopguru]

Actually I read an article about cruising on Broadway and it wasn't until 1987 until they officially shut it down. They made it difficult in the mid to late 70's as they shifted the cruising to 82nd Ave, 122nd Ave as well as cruising the top of Mt. Tabor. Spend many a nights down their cruising on Broadway. In the mid and late 60's cruising was also big at Specks on Foster, The Tik Tok on Sandy and Burnside as well as Yaws hamburger joint in the Hollywood district as they were also equipped with the drive up service and the waitresses on roller skates. where it often looked like a scene out of American Graffiti.

https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2017/06/car-cruising_teens_snarled_por.html

Man those places bring back a lot of really good memories!

 

[CupWizier]

I cruised it back in 1966 so it had to have been either later that year or the next.

I didn't get my license till 1971 and cruising was still going strong at that time.

 

[Lanny]

Actually I read an article about cruising on Broadway and it wasn't until 1987 until they officially shut it down. They made it difficult in the mid to late 70's as they shifted the cruising to 82nd Ave, 122nd Ave as well as cruising the top of Mt. Tabor. Spend many a nights down their cruising on Broadway. In the mid and late 60's cruising was also big at Specks on Foster, The Tik Tok on Sandy and Burnside as well as Yaws hamburger joint in the Hollywood district as they were also equipped with the drive up service and the waitresses on roller skates. where it often looked like a scene out of American Graffiti.

https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2017/06/car-cruising_teens_snarled_por.html

I remember those places.

By the way, my gorgeous aunt worked at Waddles back in the early 50s. She wore roller skates and always brought home a ton of money she got from tips. Back in those days it was in the form of change. She was just 16. As soon as she got home, my mom would count her money and tell her what kind of school clothes she should buy with the money. Later, my aunt went into business in Florida, owning two liquor stores and two go go night clubs. She witnessed a mob hit and had to go into the witness protection program. She married and divorced a small time hoodlum. I read in a Life or Look magazine while waiting for the dentist that he had been murdered in New Orleans, no doubt the result of another mob hit. Then, she was offered to sell one of her her night clubs but she declined. Her night club burned down when it was closed for business. She married the sheriff and she had no more problems with mobsters. I'm telling you she was beautiful.

As a side note, my other older aunt, sister of the aunt I talked about had a daughter that was incredibly beautiful. I'm trying to plan a trip down to Alabama to visit my aunt and her daughter but I have to work it out with the VA 'cause I'll have to get treatments while I'm down there.

Pardon me for getting sidetracked.

 

[Lanny]

I didn't get my license till 1971 and cruising was still going strong at that time.

I was a shade too old to be cruising at that time. My memory is bad but I'll bet I missed it quite a bit. It was really fun.

 

[Hoopguru]

I do not support Antifa, but let's get something straight here. Their "protests" as of late, in Seattle and Portland and DC, I believe, are direct COUNTER protests to the proud boys holding their own demonstration. What on earth the proud boys are demonstrating against I don't know. They got their wacko in the white house. They're real life trolling is all and they're trying to incite violence. They are dying for an antifa member to get physical with them, or assault them in any way so they can justify beating the shit out of them or killing them.

That's it.

Both groups are scum bags imo.
But why do I encounter and see more Antifa downtown than any other group? There seems to be a parallel with punks that have no desire to work and or contribute and Antifa. They need to be swept out of this city, same with right wing neo nazi's.
My grandkids won't go downtown anymore because of the filth and harassment of Antifa and punks standing around doing nothing.

 

[Lanny]

Both groups are scum bags imo.
But why do I encounter and see more Antifa downtown than any other group? There seems to be a parallel with punks that have no desire to work and or contribute and Antifa. They need to be swept out of this city, same with right wing neo nazi's.
My grandkids won't go downtown anymore because of the filth and harassment of Antifa and punks standing around doing nothing.

I have no problems with anyone. Maybe it's the way I walk, I dunno.
I look at young kids as going through a phase. A lot of them will grow out of it. How do you distinguish the future good ones from the dregs? I have no idea. Anyone with and eyeball can see that there are those in ANTIFA who are doing bad things.

It's the other ones that I worry more about, but some of them will also grow out of it.

 

[Hoopguru]

I have no problems with anyone. Maybe it's the way I walk, I dunno.
I look at young kids as going through a phase. A lot of them will grow out of it. How do you distinguish the future good ones from the dregs? I have no idea. Anyone with and eyeball can see that there are those in ANTIFA who are doing bad things.

It's the other ones that I worry more about, but some of them will also grow out of it.

I don't know Lanny, both groups are cult like and tribal. Im not saying some won't come out of it because Im a believer in second chances and redemption, I hope they do.
My son in law is a phycologist and very liberal and his concern is these young kids w/o strong family ties and encouragement and no goals, look at gangs of which Antifa is, as a way to rebel and faze out. Unless they demonstrate respect for others and those that don't think like them and repel violence they will struggle.

 

[CupWizier]

In the good ole days!
Down 6th and back up Broadway!
Hell, no one with a brain would want to do it today in that scurvy town.
It sucks down there!

We don't need you in Portland and your sensationalist views. Maybe you can cruise Bandon, lol.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Actually I read an article about cruising on Broadway and it wasn't until 1987 until they officially shut it down. They made it difficult in the mid to late 70's as they shifted the cruising to 82nd Ave, 122nd Ave as well as cruising the top of Mt. Tabor. Spend many a nights down their cruising on Broadway. In the mid and late 60's cruising was also big at Specks on Foster, The Tik Tok on Sandy and Burnside as well as Yaws hamburger joint in the Hollywood district as they were also equipped with the drive up service and the waitresses on roller skates. where it often looked like a scene out of American Graffiti.

https://www.oregonlive.com/history/2017/06/car-cruising_teens_snarled_por.html

I grew up 2 1/2 blocks from the Speck and my younger brother and I could see the revolving chicken bucket from our 2nd floor bedroom window. That joint was always hopping.....probably because it was one of the more reliable places around town to score drugs back in the day. What I loved most was that it always looked like they were having a classic car show, because that’s where everyone went to show off their hot rods and muscle cars. Another plus was the quality of their car hops. The service was spotty but the view was always excellent......

 

[MarAzul]

We don't need you in Portland

Not your call son.
I will be back before long.
But a thought for the day.
When you see me coming, you best step aside.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Both groups are scum bags imo.
But why do I encounter and see more Antifa downtown than any other group? There seems to be a parallel with punks that have no desire to work and or contribute and Antifa. They need to be swept out of this city, same with right wing neo nazi's.
My grandkids won't go downtown anymore because of the filth and harassment of Antifa and punks standing around doing nothing.

You might be confusing Antifa (a political group) with the gutter punks (homeless young people)

And no, they're not the same.

 

[Hoopguru]

I grew up 2 1/2 blocks from the Speck and my younger brother and I could see the revolving chicken bucket from our 2nd floor bedroom window. That joint was always hopping.....probably because it was one of the more reliable places around town to score drugs back in the day. What I loved most was that it always looked like they were having a classic car show, because that’s where everyone went to show off their hot rods and muscle cars. Another plus was the quality of their car hops. The service was spotty but the view was always excellent......

When I was a Junior in HS I worked at Toms Gulf on the corner 50th & Powell. Love it as chicks would come in all the time to gas up and I aways got off at 11pm.
Use to eat The Speaks chicken gizzards on a regular basis.
I also lived on Center street behind Day Music with some friends right after hs.

 

[CupWizier]

Not your call son.
I will be back before long.
But a thought for the day.
When you see me coming, you best step aside.

Why? It certainly wouldn't be from any fear of you. I'm not the one afraid of walking downtown. You are.

 

[MarAzul]

I'm not the one afraid of walking downtown.

You do not read well. I have walked it, it is an ugly detestable place.
Certainly no place to attract the cruisers of old.

 

[CupWizier]

You do not read well. I have walked it, it is an ugly detestable place.
Certainly no place to attract the cruisers of old.

There are no cruisers of old to attract. They have laws prohibiting it and it has nothing to do with what you fear walking down 6th ave. They closed that off back in 1987. Do yourself a favor and at least educate yourself on the issue rather than dive into what you perceive to be the deep end where in fact it could be the shallow end and you hit your head.

 

[Lanny]

I don't know Lanny, both groups are cult like and tribal. Im not saying some won't come out of it because Im a believer in second chances and redemption, I hope they do.
My son in law is a phycologist and very liberal and his concern is these young kids w/o strong family ties and encouragement and no goals, look at gangs of which Antifa is, as a way to rebel and faze out. Unless they demonstrate respect for others and those that don't think like them and repel violence they will struggle.

When I was young, I hung with some questionable people, I even did some things that were illegal. My dad did not live with us and I didn't get along with my mother. Yet, I turned the corner and I believe others can as well especially if we offer them the right encouragement. I remember when I was about 11 when I had what you might call an incorrigible friend. We went to a trucking company and found some nice ropes in the back of some trucks. He got me to pick up some ropes as he did, as well, and took them home. His conscience got the better of him and he insisted, over my objections, that we return the ropes which we did. This had an impact on me. I'll never forget his act of good conscience even though he was on the cusp of being a hoodlum.

 

[Lanny]

I grew up 2 1/2 blocks from the Speck and my younger brother and I could see the revolving chicken bucket from our 2nd floor bedroom window. That joint was always hopping.....probably because it was one of the more reliable places around town to score drugs back in the day. What I loved most was that it always looked like they were having a classic car show, because that’s where everyone went to show off their hot rods and muscle cars. Another plus was the quality of their car hops. The service was spotty but the view was always excellent......

There used to be a broasted chicken joint in Oswego back in the mid 50s. OMG, they had the best chicken I've ever tasted in my life.
Other great joints that are gone:
Waddles;
Rose's on NW 23rd;
Quality Pie;
Jerry's Gable;
Bart's Wharf;
Bill's Gold Coin;
Wade's;
Farrell's;
The Carnival;
Manning's;
The lunch counter at Newberry's;
An ice cream parlor that sold 3 cent phosphate sodas and had a soda jerk serving all kinds of ice cream goodies;
An ice cream store, 24 Flavors, that sold my favorite ice cream, raspberry ripple;
Gene and Joe's on McLaughlin that had superb hamburgers. It's now known as Tebo's and has moved;
The lunch counter at Meier and Frank's;
Sam's Hof Brau near Portland State;
Henry Ford's just off Barbur near Capitol Hwy;
Hung Far Low Chinese restaurant in China town;
Dairy Maid in Oswego/Lake Oswego;
The Pinafore in Oswego/Lake Oswego;
A & W Root Beer restaurants that served ice cold root beer in a frost glass mug;
Bonnie Burgers;
The Crab Broiler near the intersection of Hwy 26 and hwy 101;
Shakey's Pizza;
Top of the Cosmo;
The Gast Haus;
Sweet Tibby Dunbar's;
There used to be a little restaurant, name unknown, that sold a delicious reuban sandwich with a Mrs. Neushin's dill pickle and a coke. It was located in the old farmer's market near the original Meier and Frank building;
I'll probably think of more given more time but I gotta go.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

When I was a Junior in HS I worked at Toms Gulf on the corner 50th & Powell. Love it as chicks would come in all the time to gas up and I aways got off at 11pm.
Use to eat The Speaks chicken gizzards on a regular basis.
I also lived on Center street behind Day Music with some friends right after hs.

I remember when Day Music used to be the Ames Theater. My brothers and I saw a lot of movies there and at the Bob White just up the street. I heard a vague rumor a few month back that they may be turning Day Music back into a movie theater but don’t know the validity. Anything is possible the way they are bending over backwards to gentrify the whole Foster corridor.....talk about putting a tuxedo on a pig.......

 

[CupWizier]

I remember when Day Music used to be the Ames Theater. My brothers and I saw a lot of movies there and at the Bob White just up the street. I heard a vague rumor a few month back that they may be turning Day Music back into a movie theater but don’t know the validity. Anything is possible the way they are bending over backwards to gentrify the whole Foster corridor.....talk about putting a tuxedo on a pig.......

 

[The Professional Fan]

There used to be a broasted chicken joint in Oswego back in the mid 50s. OMG, they had the best chicken I've ever tasted in my life.
Other great joints that are gone:
Waddles;
Rose's on NW 23rd;
Quality Pie;
Jerry's Gable;
Bart's Wharf;
Bill's Gold Coin;
Wade's;
Farrell's;
The Carnival;
Manning's;
The lunch counter at Newberry's;
An ice cream parlor that sold 3 cent phosphate sodas and had a soda jerk serving all kinds of ice cream goodies;
An ice cream store, 24 Flavors, that sold my favorite ice cream, raspberry ripple;
Gene and Joe's on McLaughlin that had superb hamburgers. It's now known as Tebo's and has moved;
The lunch counter at Meier and Frank's;
Sam's Hof Brau near Portland State;
Henry Ford's just off Barbur near Capitol Hwy;
Hung Far Low Chinese restaurant in China town;
Dairy Maid in Oswego/Lake Oswego;
The Pinafore in Oswego/Lake Oswego;
A & W Root Beer restaurants that served ice cold root beer in a frost glass mug;
Bonnie Burgers;
The Crab Broiler near the intersection of Hwy 26 and hwy 101;
Shakey's Pizza;
Top of the Cosmo;
The Gast Haus;
Sweet Tibby Dunbar's;
There used to be a little restaurant, name unknown, that sold a delicious reuban sandwich with a Mrs. Neushin's dill pickle and a coke. It was located in the old farmer's market near the original Meier and Frank building;
I'll probably think of more given more time but I gotta go.

Remember The Metro? I believe it was located where the Columbia store is on broadway. It was a shitty sunken food court where people smoked and read the Willamette Week back when it was cool. I loved that spot.

 

[Chris Craig]

You do not read well. I have walked it, it is an ugly detestable place.
Certainly no place to attract the cruisers of old.

Because of the homeless people? I find that detestable too, but probably for different reasons than you?

 

[MarAzul]

but probably for different reasons than you?

Well, go for it!

I hate to see a section of town just let go to hell like that. The city used big money to turn 6th ave into a pedestrian zone with
Max as the core transportation. Now it is so fucked up, there is no need for the Max. Nothing down there worth going there.

Then you have those that moved into the vacant zone, camped on the sidewalks shooting shit in their limbs, nothing to inhibited them.
What a spectacle.

Why was I there? Why did I walk it?

Trying to get from Scappoose to Eugene. The closest a bus comes to downtown anymore is Salmon ST. So I hiked from 6th & Salmon to the Train Station. The only ground transportation out of town since the Bus Station closed, no doubt because the place became untenable. Walk it sometime, see what once was the center of one of the nicest Cities on the West Coast. No more, it now rivals Seattle and San Francisco for most disgusting.

One of the most noticeable thing about the area, is the lack of police. All this illegal shit going on and not a cop in sight.
It has to be the plan.

 

[Hoopguru]

I remember when Day Music used to be the Ames Theater. My brothers and I saw a lot of movies there and at the Bob White just up the street. I heard a vague rumor a few month back that they may be turning Day Music back into a movie theater but don’t know the validity. Anything is possible the way they are bending over backwards to gentrify the whole Foster corridor.....talk about putting a tuxedo on a pig.......

Remember The Pink Bucket?

 

[Chris Craig]

Well, go for it!

I hate to see a section of town just let go to hell like that. The city used big money to turn 6th ave into a pedestrian zone with
Max as the core transportation. Now it is so fucked up, there is no need for the Max. Nothing down there worth going there.

Then you have those that moved into the vacant zone, camped on the sidewalks shooting shit in their limbs, nothing to inhibited them.
What a spectacle.

Why was I there? Why did I walk it?

Trying to get from Scappoose to Eugene. The closest a bus comes to downtown anymore is Salmon ST. So I hiked from 6th & Salmon to the Train Station. The only ground transportation out of town since the Bus Station closed, no doubt because the place became untenable. Walk it sometime, see what once was the center of one of the nicest Cities on the West Coast. No more, it now rivals Seattle and San Francisco for most disgusting.

One of the most noticeable thing about the area, is the lack of police. All this illegal shit going on and not a cop in sight.
It has to be the plan.

These are human beings man. I find that their situation is destestable. No one should have to live that way. All these people fell through the cracks. I have been there myself. I was homeless not so long ago. I lived on the streets downtown. Luckily, I was able to get back on my feet and get a place, and go to college, and get where I am at. And not without learning a good bit of humility.

Yes, the homeless issue has gotten worse. Both Dems and republicans have failed to fix it. Sending people to jail and off to other cities on greyhound buses are not the answer.

As far as I know Greyhound is open as long as you have a ticket.

There are police everywhere. Not much thry can do but tell people to move on or arrest them. The problem is bigger than them at this point.

 

[barfo]

Remember The Pink Bucket?

That's a pretty demeaning way to refer to Mrs. HCP. Shame on you.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Sending people to jail and off to other cities on greyhound buses are not the answer.

Seems like we got rid of one undesirable by sending him off on the train, though.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Yes, the homeless issue has gotten worse.

Good point! Getting worse all the time. Most of these people are younger white people and black people of all ages. Where did they come from?
Why did they let them have this section of the City? Why aren't they working at a job that matches their skill level rather than come there to be derelicts? It might have something to do with most of the State being in a state of dereliction. A place where the ability of people to earn a living has been eliminated. Eliminated before creating places for people to earn a living. But we bring more into the Sanctuary. This could be a long vent, but I will stop here.

As far as I know Greyhound is open as long as you have a ticket.

No, the Greyhound station, which once was the center hub of transportation is closed. One all the bus lines ended up there. no more.

 

[MarAzul]

Seems like we got rid of one undesirable by sending him off on the train, though.

barfo

Naw, he is very mobile. He will return.