The Untouchables: who's your fourth guy?

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Who should we send after Al Capone along with Roy, LMA and Oden?

  • Joel

    Votes: 3 5.9%

  • Rudy

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Bayless

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Batum

    Votes: 36 70.6%
  • Total voters
    51
Idog1976

Idog1976

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I've gotten alot of heat around here for some of my trade ideas or possibly their repettition and part of that is we all have a different idea of who is untouchable on this team. I think most of us can agree on Roy, Aldridge and Oden but after that it's all about tastes. To one guy Rudy is a sacred cow who shall retire a Blazer to another guy he is our best trade chip to lock in the PG of the future. It's the same with Joel, Batum and for an increasing minority Bayless is on that list.

So then who is your untouchable and why? Would you feel different about Batum if we brought in a young SF? How about Joel if we brought in a C or PF? Is Rudy simply untouchable period? Or do you trade him if it's for Devin Harris?

For me it's Batum because he plays a position of need as his natural position and is a fantastic defensive prospect. You simply don't find guys with his wingspan, athleticism and BBIQ growing on trees. He's also only 19. I can't really see a trade that doesn't involve an absolute top shelf player like Devin Harris or CP3 where I would consider trading Batum. Even there I would try and figure out someone else I could throw in.

So who is your untouchable beyond Roy, LMA and Oden.

P.S. if you feel one of Roy, LMA and Oden aren't untouchable feel free to post that too.
 
None, but Rudy is the closest.
 
None but Batum is closest as I see him as having the best opportunity to start.
 
Rudy can emerge as our 3rd scorer. He averaged 10 points in 25 minutes his rookie year and he shot more 3's than 2's. Once Rudy get a better array of scoring options in his game and is allowed to distribute the ball more as a 2nd ballhandler I expect his scoring to be in the 15-18 range and 5 asts a night.
 
Batum has been the player I've most wanted to keep, after the Big Three, for a while now. I think his potential is really tremendous and he fits the core three really well. I like Bayless and Fernandez, too, but Fernandez is older and I think his ceiling is lower and Bayless is still a total crapshoot.
 
Rudy for me
 
Minstrel said:
Batum has been the player I've most wanted to keep, after the Big Three, for a while now. I think his potential is really tremendous and he fits the core three really well. I like Bayless and Fernandez, too, but Fernandez is older and I think his ceiling is lower and Bayless is still a total crapshoot.
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Agreed.
 
All are available for the right trade, but I selected Rudy by a hair over Batum. I really like the way Batum is playing D, but on O he has so much to pick up to be something special. Rudy has a lot of holes as well, but as of this minute he can lift the team out of a funk with sick offense.

To answer the earlier question, I would trade either for Harris.
 
Batum, Rudy will be gone by the start of the 11-12 season imo..not enough minutes
 
Batum is the guy. He compliments Roy SO WELL!!! Batum can pick up Roy's slack on the defensive end if need be, and he is often open for a three if the defenders collapse on Roy. The only way Rudy becomes invaluable is if Roy plays the 3 and Rudy plays the 2 AND we trade Batum for a great PG (Great being the key word). Batum is that girl everyone thinks looks ok, but can't stop looking at in the bar. You hear the rest of the league half heartedly notice him, but if they had his contract they would wave it around like they just won capture the flag.
 
If we have one, it's Rudy... Truth is, the only guy I call "untouchable" is Brandon; I'd trade any of the rest for a good enough deal. Heck, I'd trade Brandon (and whomever, except LMA) for LeBronze...
 
SpamKing99 said:
If we have one, it's Rudy... Truth is, the only guy I call "untouchable" is Brandon; I'd trade any of the rest for a good enough deal. Heck, I'd trade Brandon (and whomever, except LMA) for LeBronze...
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Roy and LMA for LeBron is reasonable except I would rather have Roy and LMA then LeBron. Maybe not as skilled but way smaller egos. It might be hard to root for LeBron if he gets anymore ego inflated. If I did it I would keep Oden. LBJ + Oden besides looking like father and son, would be an absolutely devastating combo. You would have two of the biggest guys at their repsective postions. Lebron can deal with perimeter D and O and Oden can lurk inside. LBJ will never be traded at least not until like his 13th season.
 
MAS RipCity said:
Batum, Rudy will be gone by the start of the 11-12 season imo..not enough minutes
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Who is the starting SF if not Batum in 2011+? He IMO is the guy you lock up (albeit not max out) after the big 3. That core is sick. If only we had a solid PG.

I mean damn every time I project 3 years out I ask myself. Who the fuck is going to stop us? Unless LBJ gets another max contract guy next to him preferably a big (Bosh), I can't see anyone as currently constructed (or with feasible changes) that will stop us assuming we stay healthy.
 
Batum, but I'd really like to think that Joel is close behind. Having a back-up big of his calibur is very, very valuable. Especially with an injury to Oden.
 
and why in the hell is bayless on this list???? He should be the first to go!
 
None of the above, TBD at a later point. There is also no real reason to have a 4th untouchable player right now.

Batum's the last one of the group I'd give up in a trade, though.
 
Idog1976 said:
Who is the starting SF if not Batum in 2011+? He IMO is the guy you lock up (albeit not max out) after the big 3. That core is sick. If only we had a solid PG.

I mean damn every time I project 3 years out I ask myself. Who the fuck is going to stop us? Unless LBJ gets another max contract guy next to him preferably a big (Bosh), I can't see anyone as currently constructed (or with feasible changes) that will stop us assuming we stay healthy.
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You misinterpreted what I wrote. Batum was my answer to who is untouchable, Rudy is not, b/c he will be dealtb/c he is needy for minutes.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Dude, I called you out once for incessantly trying to trade Joel for Battier.

Let it go, already.
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fair enough. I'm not mad about it or anything, but if Joel isn't untouchable can you explain to me how Battier isn't fair value? Battier is twice the player Joel is and we could use his experience and shooting at the 3. I assumed all along that you were in the Joel is an untouchable camp because of Oden's injury history or some such.

I'm actually legitimately curious why you personally thought it was a bad idea. A number of the people who hated it and slammed me for it (as opposed to disagreeing with it) didn't really say why they hated it with such a passion.
 
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MAS RipCity said:
You misinterpreted what I wrote. Batum was my answer to who is untouchable, Rudy is not, b/c he will be dealtb/c he is needy for minutes.
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Ah that makes sense. And I agree about Rudy. It seems to me he will go when we find the PG we want (a young guy of course).

Rudy for Flynn + filler? Rudy for Mike Conley? Rudy + Bayless + Outlaw for Conley and Gasol (is that overpaying do you think?).
 
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