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Five players to avoid trading for
Josh Smith among those to pass on at the NBA trade deadline

NBA trade season is finally here.

Memphis and Cleveland officially got things rolling this week with the first deal of 2013, and you can count on plenty of more trade rumors to surface in the weeks ahead as we approach the league's Feb. 21 trade deadline.

Just remember, there are many layers to every trade that go well beyond a player's value on the court today.

In many cases, it's the other factors that weigh more heavily: the contracts involved, salary cap and luxury tax implications, depth chart changes, team chemistry, winning now versus winning later. The list goes on and on.

Considering all of the factors above, here is a look at five players whom teams should avoid on the trade market this season.

Josh Smith | PF | Atlanta Hawks

As fun as it is to watch the high-flying lefty play the game, and as much as he could provide a big lift to a contender in need of an athletic power forward who can score and defend, the 27-year-old brings a big element of risk for a number of reasons. Smith's at an age where he should be in the prime of his career, yet his scoring and rebounding numbers are down this season and his player efficiency rating has plummeted almost four points to 17.35. That's alarming. Throw in the fact that he'll be an unrestricted free agent this summer, and you can see why trading for him would be a huge gamble.


Smith
ESPN Insider Kevin Pelton pointed out last week that "whoever deals for Smith should have the upper hand in re-signing him because they can offer an additional year and larger raises on his next contract," which make sense, but that team will probably also have to include some promising players to get him -- without any guarantee that he'll be more than a three-month rental. On top of that, Smith told the Atlanta Journal Constitution on Friday that he "sees himself as a max player," which begs the question whether any team can actually win it all in the age of LeBron James and Kevin Durant with Smith as its No. 1 option. Any team that trades for him probably has to look at him through that prism.

Courtney Lee | SG | Boston Celtics

Lee has become redundant in Boston with the return of Avery Bradley, a younger and much more affordable shooting guard who has quickly established himself as one of the league's top on-ball defenders. As such, Lee's name is one that often comes up in trade rumors regarding the Celtics.


Lee
Unless he's simply a smaller part of a big package that lands Boston a big-name player, though, it's difficult to see what other teams would see in Lee based on how he's performed this season. His 11.87 PER is the lowest it has been since his rookie season, he's turning the ball over at the highest rate of his career (11.4 percent of his possessions) and his scoring (12.8 points per 40 minutes) has never been lower. At age 27, these are scary trends that could conceivably lead to Lee becoming a deeper reserve in the years ahead, whether in Boston or elsewhere. Considering that he's guaranteed more than $5 million for three more seasons after 2012-13, teams would be wise to demand other options from Boston in trade talks.

Andrea Bargnani | PF | Toronto Raptors

Toronto would love to unload the two years and $23 million owed to Bargnani beyond this season -- and it has a number of strong frontcourt options in Amir Johnson and Ed Davis to fill his void -- but finding a taker could prove to be difficult. It will take a team with a lot of cap space in the years ahead and one that also covets a big man who can stretch the floor. Might it be time to revisit the Bargnani and Jose Calderon for Pau Gasol trade rumor?


Bargnani
The No. 1 overall pick in 2006 has the rare skill set of a 7-footer who hits 3s consistently, but it's increasingly difficult to overlook his deficiencies as a defender and rebounder. He is averaging just 5.8 rebounds per 36 minutes over the course of his career, a number that had sunk to a career-worst 4.8 in the 21 games he played prior to his injury this season. Making matters worse is that the Raptors have played considerably better without Bargnani (12-11) this season than with him (4-17), and it really isn't even close. He's due to come back from his elbow injury in the near future, but it's safe to say his trade value has never been lower.

Tayshaun Prince | SF | Detroit Pistons

Prince has long been considered one of the league's top "glue guys," and his name is sure to come up as a possibility for contending teams looking to add a savvy wing defender. Teams such as Milwaukee, Golden State, Utah and maybe even Houston all fit that description.


Prince
The problem is that Prince is still playing big minutes (32.5 per game) in his 11th season in the league and will turn 33 next month. That isn't to say he's washed up. In fact, thanks in large part to Prince, Pistons small forwards have a PER 1.8 points higher than their opponents this season, according to 82games.com. The problem is that Prince is guaranteed $7.23 million next season and $7.70 million in 2014-15 (when he turns 35), which is a lot of money to be wrapped up in a veteran who has logged a ton of minutes in his career and has seen his scoring (11.9 PPG) dip to its lowest point since the 2003-04 season.

Tyreke Evans | PG/SG/SF | Sacramento Kings

Evans is enjoying his best offensive season in his fourth year in the league, and at age 23 he certainly still has room for growth (particularly as a shooter). For that reason, any team looking to add offense in the form of a big swingman who can penetrate and finish at the rim has to have Evans on its radar.


Evans
Problem is, with his size and rare skill set, Evans has proved to be a matchup problem not only for opponents but also for his own coaches. Finding a position where he can excel remains a major question; much like Tony Wroten in Memphis, he's at his best with the ball in his hands, but he's also a poor shooter and not always a willing passer. Any team that trades for him (Boston, Minnesota, Phoenix and Memphis all rank in the bottom 11 in terms of offensive efficiency and could be interested) has to be willing to give back a high draft pick or a solid package of players, and more importantly has to also be prepared to spend money over the summer, when Evans is set to become a restricted free agent.
 
Dude, mags, I really try hard to not disparage the poster - but you're dumb. If you think that these stats PROVE that my trade idea is the worst you've ever seen then you are DUMB. Those stats don't say shit. Look just a TINY bit deeper.
Greg Monroe averages 5 fewer points on 5 fewer shots, in 5 fewer minutes. The scoring difference is not significant. Averaging 20ppg is not the be-all, end-all of being a great player - as discussed before TONS of mediocre players have averaged 20ppg. (And no, I'm not saying LMA is mediocre - he's a good starting PF, but definitely NOT the best. His skills are suspect when it comes to winning basketball.)
Also, you're stupid for not realizing the point of a trade. The point is not to get someone who has better individual stats, but rather to improve the team. C is one of our biggest weaknesses. Monroe is a pretty damn good C, playing on a team with a damn good rookie C - so it's conceivable that he's available. And since LMA is "the best PF in the league", we should be able to also address other major weaknesses by trading him.
And in regards to your other post - I never said Monroe was better than LMA.
Seriously, stop being an emotional baby about the idea of trading LMA. If it improves the team it should be done. If trading LMA doesn't bring back multiple players to address multiple weaknesses then it shouldn't be done. Simple as that. I've never wanted to get rid of LMA just for the sake of getting rid of him - he's not Outlaw, Anderson, or Crash.

Monroe the All-star. Sounds like a plan!!!!!
 
I certainly wouldn't trade for Smith or Evans at the deadline, but i would try to sign them in the summer
 
I wouldn't trade for either. Doesn't mean I wouldn't look to sign them though?
 
Definitely Evans, i bet he would do very well with a change of scenery by getting out of Sactown. Just look at JJ.
ONLY if he's coming off the bench - the guy is a loser as a starter. Only way he'll ever have success is off the bench, like Kevin Martin is doing now. And even then, there's gotta be better 6th-man options.
 
tyreke would be nice because he can play 1-3 in a pinch, and someone like milsap or another big that can play 4-5 would really help the bench

and for gods sake freeland, SHOW ME SOMETHING OR BEG YOUR WAY BACK TO SPAIN
 
tyreke would be nice because he can play 1-3 in a pinch, and someone like milsap or another big that can play 4-5 would really help the bench

and for gods sake freeland, SHOW ME SOMETHING OR BEG YOUR WAY BACK TO SPAIN

Evans scares the hell out of me. Someone who we should really go after, but has been a knucklehead. Maybe a change of scenery is all he needs?
 
MUCH rather take a chance on Cousins than Evans. Cousins is actually supremely talented.
 
Evans scares the hell out of me. Someone who we should really go after, but has been a knucklehead. Maybe a change of scenery is all he needs?

he would be scary on a 8-10 million dollar a year deal, but if he gets signed for 4-7 he would be worth the risk
 
What about Al Jefferson? It would keep up our proud tradition of screwing over the Jazz, and he can play center as well as average a double double.
 
So is Evans, maybe not quite as much, but very talented

I don't see it. Unless you consider Monta Ellis supremely talented (I don't...at least not when it comes to playing winning basketball in the NBA) - and even then Ellis is better than Evans.
 
he would be scary on a 8-10 million dollar a year deal, but if he gets signed for 4-7 he would be worth the risk

Do you think we could get him for that? I was thinking someone will pay him close to 7
 
evans is having a great season and is better than monta right now
 
Mags, for the love of god, watch a Piston's game before you spout off about Monroe.
 
Mags, for the love of god, watch a Piston's game before you spout off about Monroe.

monroe is nice, he is falling off from last years stats, but that is likely because he is being asked to do more
 
K, say we sign Smith. Then what? Start him over Aldridge?

Have 2 PF's on essentially max deals?
 
K, say we sign Smith. Then what? Start him over Aldridge?

Have 2 PF's on essentially max deals?

Smith really isn't a good option at all. He's a good player, but he doesn't really fit the core.
 
K, say we sign Smith. Then what? Start him over Aldridge?

Have 2 PF's on essentially max deals?

I know he's playing PF in Atlanta right now; but he was a SF throughout most his career. Not saying he can still play it now; but he definitely did.
 
Aldridge's have dipped as well.

Monroe is just 22.

just an observation, his stats are nearly all down from last year, whereas lma is rebounding/assisting/ft% etc at a career high level
 
just an observation, his stats are nearly all down from last year, whereas lma is rebounding/assisting/ft% etc at a career high level

I don't understand why people think that Aldridge's numbers have dipped? Maybe FG%, but the dude's rebounding, assists, blocks and FT% are career highs. Maybe people are just sick of seeing Aldridge on this team I guess.
 
just an observation, his stats are nearly all down from last year, whereas lma is rebounding/assisting/ft% etc at a career high level

I don't think he's much of an upgrade over Batum if at all. He doesn't remind me of a west coast guy at all and his age doesn't make sense with our core. He plays obnoxiously and he naturally makes more sense as a 4.

I don't like targeting Smith at all.
 
What about Al Jefferson? It would keep up our proud tradition of screwing over the Jazz, and he can play center as well as average a double double.

Problem with Al Jefferson is he isn't that great of a defender. If I am searching for a center; I would really like someone that can protect the basket and defend more than scoring, IMO.
 
I don't understand why people think that Aldridge's numbers have dipped? Maybe FG%, but the dude's rebounding, assists, blocks and FT% are career highs. Maybe people are just sick of seeing Aldridge on this team I guess.

He had a 22 PER last year. A 19 PER this year. A stat that takes everything into account.
 

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