This guy most likely saved lives

[3RA1N1AC]

Thanks for the personal insult. Post reported.

oh please, you can call me stupid though?

suck it up

 

[BlazerCaravan]

i say everyone melts their guns down into swords

I'd say rapiers, but then there's be rapier gangs. I don't like gang-rapiers.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Thanks for the personal insult. Post reported.

oh please, you can call me stupid though?

suck it up

 

[PapaG]

No, but apparently any sane person could at any moment do just that. We should take their guns away for their own protection. if it isn't about controlling mental illness, the only thing left is to control the guns.

It could be argued that the original post in this thread shows the benefit of gun ownership. I guess that what has some of you so upset, the thought that a gun owner acted responsibly and may have spooked the shooter into ending his spree.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

oh please, you can call me stupid though?

suck it up

I didn't call you stupid. I called your remarks stupid. You are not what you do.

 

[PapaG]

oh please, you can call me stupid though?

suck it up

It was a pant-shitting post. :MARIS61:

 

[julius]

Why not? Does every mentally ill person want to shoot up a mall?

fallacies are fun!

not all mentally ill people want to shoot up malls. But all people who want ot shoot up malls or actually DO shoot up malls are mentally ill.

 

[PapaG]

I didn't call you stupid. I called your remarks stupid. You are not what you do.

I used a simile. I didn't call you a 9 year-old, I said responding to your posts was LIKE conversing with a 9 year-old.

 

[PapaG]

fallacies are fun!

not all mentally ill people want to shoot up malls. But all people who want ot shoot up malls or actually DO shoot up malls are mentally ill.

Link?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

It could be argued that the original post in this thread shows the benefit of gun ownership. I guess that what has some of you so upset, the thought that a gun owner acted responsibly and may have spooked the shooter into ending his spree.

It would be cool, but even if everything this perfectly honest, hardworking citizen says is true, it doesn't counteract Nate's fatalism around responsible gun ownership, which really pissed some of "us" off. Gun owners need to get their shit together, or they will eventually lose their rights.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

It was a pant-shitting post. :MARIS61:

There is a lot of that in this thread, for sure.

 

[PapaG]

It would be cool, but even if everything this perfectly honest, hardworking citizen says is true, it doesn't counteract Nate's fatalism around responsible gun ownership, which really pissed some of "us" off. Gun owners need to get their shit together, or they will eventually lose their rights.

I fully support bans on AR-15s and such. I do own a .22 caliber rifle that I got for my 16th birthday, and used to shoot rabbits that were destroying crops at my grandparents' property.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

You guys make me a bit angry sometimes, but mostly it's hilarious because nothing any of us says has the slightest effect on anything ever. We are doing nothing useful with this time. We are failing as people right now in this thread.

It's really kind of sad, all things considered.

EDIT: removed trollbait.

 

[julius]

Link?

So let me get this right. You're actually postulating that there are sane people, who are not mentally ill or have mental instability, actually want to shoot up malls and kill people.

Because I seriously want to make sure that is actual point you're trying to get across here before I start laughing at you.

 

[Natebishop3]

[video=youtube;0IA3ZvCkRkQ]

 

[julius]

I fully support bans on AR-15s and such. I do own a .22 caliber rifle that I got for my 16th birthday, and used to shoot rabbits that were destroying crops at my grandparents' property.

I completely agree with this.

there, papag and I have solved the issue. Beers on the house!

 

[Natebishop3]

But I like my AR-15

 

[PapaG]

So let me get this right. You're actually postulating that there are sane people, who are not mentally ill or have mental instability, actually want to shoot up malls and kill people.

Because I seriously want to make sure that is actual point you're trying to get across here before I start laughing at you.

Yes, I truly believe that there are people who see nothing wrong with shooting up a mall, and I don't think that all of them are clinically "insane". At some point, social norms and values have to enter this conversation as a nation, but it is too complex, so instead we get "guns good" and "guns bad" flame wars.

 

[julius]

mental illness does not equal insane.

as for the 'guns good' 'guns bad' argument, I think the only people really arguing that are people who are in favor of keeping guns laws as they are.

I've never said "guns bad" and in fact have talked about mental illness in this thread and the other.

there might be other people who have used the sayings you are talking about, but I don't think they speak for everyone who is in favor of limiting the accessibility of certain guns.

Because look at yourself, you just said you were in favor of banning certain guns, yet you're not "guns bad!", are you?

 

[PapaG]

mental illness does not equal insane.

as for the 'guns good' 'guns bad' argument, I think the only people really arguing that are people who are in favor of keeping guns laws as they are.

I've never said "guns bad" and in fact have talked about mental illness in this thread and the other.

there might be other people who have used the sayings you are talking about, but I don't think they speak for everyone who is in favor of limiting the accessibility of certain guns.

Because look at yourself, you just said you were in favor of banning certain guns, yet you're not "guns bad!", are you?

You have put "mental illness" under some big umbrella, and I don't find it relevant in terms of having an actual discussion. I offered a solution ... screen everybody, and if you show tendencies toward any mental illness, you are put into a separate category. I'll let people like you decide how to treat those people, in terms of what they can and cannot do in society compared to those deemed sane, or mentally healthy.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

What about just making guns as hard to get as driver's licenses/owning a car? So, like, a gun license, with a written exam on safety and proper usage, a practical test of same, a trial period where you can only shoot in the presence of a licensed owner, proof of insurance required, etc.?

 

[julius]

You have put "mental illness" under some big umbrella, and I don't find it relevant in terms of having an actual discussion. I offered a solution ... screen everybody, and if you show tendencies toward any mental illness, you are put into a separate category. I'll let people like you decide how to treat those people, in terms of what they can and cannot do in society compared to those deemed sane, or mentally healthy.

I'm not sure if we disagree much here, barring you being sarcastic about this.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I had a previous question for PapaG about sane people shooting up malls. Do try to keep up.

but you quoted me. hence my confusion.

(these 2 sentence posts are rad, and this on doesnt count)

 

[3RA1N1AC]

You guys make me a bit angry sometimes, but mostly it's hilarious because nothing any of us says has the slightest effect on anything ever.

unlike all of our posts on the blazer board, which effect everything always

 

[PapaG]

I'm not sure if we disagree much here, barring you being sarcastic about this.

See my signature.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

But I like my AR-15

I didn't know Air Soft made an AR-15.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

but you quoted me. hence my confusion.

(these 2 sentence posts are rad, and this on doesnt count)

I totally agree. My bad about quoting you.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

unlike all of our posts on the blazer board, which effect everything always

Kingspeed's game attendance and HCP's game thread jinxes aside? Yeah, the fatalism around that board sometimes creeps in too, especially when we're bad.

 

[PapaG]

I didn't know Air Soft made an AR-15.

I shit my pants when I think of that avatar.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I shit my pants when I think of that avatar.

Do you hide behind women too?