This is how Sanders is going to beat HilBil v.2

[riverman]

I don't feel like the country is ruined mags. I've seen some fucked up countries and given the choice, we live in a great country. It's one thing to dislike Obama and it's another to sensationalize the state of the economy. Greece is a ruined country asking the euro union to bail it out of trouble. Here at least you have the right to dislike your leaders without being thrown into prison or labor camps.

 

[magnifier661]

I don't feel like the country is ruined mags. I've seen some fucked up countries and given the choice, we live in a great country. It's one thing to dislike Obama and it's another to sensationalize the state of the economy. Greece is a ruined country asking the euro union to bail it out of trouble. Here at least you have the right to dislike your leaders without being thrown into prison or labor camps.

When your country is spending money far beyond its means, eventually the bubble will burst.

Example: Lets say you have a $25,000 credit limit on a credit card. You max out that card and are charge 1.8% per month ($450). You take in 5k in wage, needing 4.8k to pay mortgage, food, car, etc. Do you think you are smart at managing your money? Will you still be able to keep your home, feed yourself, etc?

 

[dviss1]

http://www.usdebtclock.org

The true numbers.

Debt per citizen: $57,097
Debt per tax payer: $154,510
Revenue per citizen: $9,833

Medicare: 962 bil
Social Security: 879 bil
Defense: 587 bil
Interest on Debt: 249 bil

Obama has taken the 1.3 Trillion dollar deficit and turned into a little over 400 billion. Get your mind right.

Our country isn't ruined. WTF are you talking about?

 

[Denny Crane]

See you in gitmo!

It's not like the NSA is spying on anything we do, and without warrants.

Greece is what we'll look like after enough Bernie Sanders/Obama types run the country for long enough.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama has taken the 1.3 Trillion dollar deficit and turned into a little over 400 billion. Get your mind right.

Our country isn't ruined. WTF are you talking about?

Obstructionist republicans (and democrats in his own party) wouldn't pass his budgets. No wonder it's cut to 400 billion.

 

[dviss1]

More troubling numbers, which has been led by the Obama Administration...

321,550,554 US Population:

Living in poverty: 43,821,128 (13%)
Living without insurance: 40,749,457 (12.71%)

I thought every american was to receive healthcare?!

http://www.politifact.com/ohio/stat...rcia-fudge-says-30-million-people-were-pover/

30 million people were in poverty when Bush left office. Since Obama became president, 13 million more americans went to poverty.

When Bush left office, 46.3 million americans were without healthcare (terrible I know). After 2.5 trillion spent on Obamacare, 6 million more americans received healthcare. That's 1.8% increase. 2 trillion for 1.8% increase over 8 years. Sounds like a sure bet!

Answer this:

When did Obama's budget get passed? You can't count the time at when he came into office bro... We were STILL on Bush's budget...

 

[dviss1]

See you in gitmo!

It's not like the NSA is spying on anything we do, and without warrants.

Greece is what we'll look like after enough Bernie Sanders/Obama types run the country for long enough.

You know damn well why Gitmo is still open. Stop acting... You also know who started that NSA shit... Jesus...

 

[magnifier661]

Obama has taken the 1.3 Trillion dollar deficit and turned into a little over 400 billion. Get your mind right.

Our country isn't ruined. WTF are you talking about?

Huh?

http://www.usdebtclock.org

500 billion (because the republicans control congress). How was he when the democrats controlled congress? Remember the record breaking 1.6 trillion deficit? And still, a debt is only adding to the debt. When it's actually in the black is when this country can believe we are headed in the right direction.

 

[riverman]

Funny thing... Obama spent the most money (increasing the debt) when he was president and there democrats controlled congress. The last 4 years, republicans controlled congress and the spending dropped in half. Weird huh?

He inherited a financial disaster and wars on two fronts...I don't think your numbers tell the story. I don't remember congress stalemating the country to the brink of shutdown twice before the republicans controlled congress. This republican congress has been the worst I can remember in my lifetime. I'm not a democrat or republican but congress lobbied against this president from the day he took oath. They were not going to do anything to help achieve success during his administration..their election campaign has been 7 years of spin and bullshit

 

[magnifier661]

Answer this:

When did Obama's budget get passed? You can't count the time at when he came into office bro... We were STILL on Bush's budget...

Oh sweet, so Clinton was a joke then? He was riding on Bush senor's budget, while Bush Jr. was riding on Clinton's budget? Dang!!!!

 

[magnifier661]

He inherited a financial disaster and wars on two fronts...I don't think your numbers tell the story. I don't remember congress stalemating the country to the brink of shutdown twice before the republicans controlled congress. This republican congress has been the worst I can remember in my lifetime. I'm not a democrat or republican but congress lobbied against this president from the day he took oath. They were not going to do anything to help achieve success during his administration..their election campaign has been 7 years of spin and bullshit

And yet the american people voted more republicans to congress

 

[dviss1]

Huh?

http://www.usdebtclock.org

500 billion (because the republicans control congress). How was he when the democrats controlled congress? Remember the record breaking 1.6 trillion deficit? And still, a debt is only adding to the debt. When it's actually in the black is when this country can believe we are headed in the right direction.

You can't have both ways. You can't say Obama spent and is the reason why we have so much debt and then blame our debt on Congress when Bush was in....

 

[magnifier661]

You can't have both ways. You can't say Obama spent and is the reason why we have so much debt and then blame our debt on Congress when Bush was in....

wait wha???????? I think Bush was a horrible president. As I already said, maybe the democrats should follow suit and blame Obama

 

[dviss1]

And yet the american people voted more republicans to congress

You are cluless on this on bro. Repubs have gerrymandered the SHIT out of the congressional districts. That's why it's hard to win the house.

 

[riverman]

And yet the american people voted more republicans to congress

not this american..so you are the guy who voted for them? mags has destroyed the country folks!

 

[magnifier661]

You are cluless on this on bro. Repubs have gerrymandered the SHIT out of the congressional districts. That's why it's hard to win the house.

We are talking Senate bro. And the dems had control of the house during the first 2 years Obama was president.

LOL at Democrats trying to pass blame on the republicans.

 

[riverman]

See you in gitmo!

It's not like the NSA is spying on anything we do, and without warrants.

Greece is what we'll look like after enough Bernie Sanders/Obama types run the country for long enough.

I don't buy this for a second

 

[magnifier661]

not this american..so you are the guy who voted for them? mags has destroyed the country folks!

The republican congress has made damn sure Obama and his frivolous spending is put in check. This is why you see a steady decrease in spending since the last 2 years. This is why america is voting republican

 

[magnifier661]

I don't buy this for a second

Which is why our country is fucked

 

[riverman]

We are talking Senate bro. And the dems had control of the house during the first 2 years Obama was president.

LOL at Democrats trying to pass blame on the republicans.

stop calling me a democrat..I do blame the republican party for the current state of the nation and I'm not affiliated with a party..folks like me do exist whether you want to spin everything as bipartisan or not.

 

[riverman]

Which is why our country is fucked

My opinion doesn't have that much clout and you're in denial if you think yours does

 

[magnifier661]

stop calling me a democrat..I do blame the republican party for the current state of the nation and I'm not affiliated with a party..folks like me do exist whether you want to spin everything as bipartisan or not.

I'm not a republican. So fucking what??? When you defend a party and blame the other, it's pretty obvious where you lean to most.

 

[magnifier661]

My opinion doesn't have that much clout and you're in denial if you think yours does

Wait you just said I fucked the country by voting in republicans. Weird has you toss and turn on your debate

 

[magnifier661]

http://www.usdebtclock.org

U.S. federal spending is up 108% from last year. This is gonna be fun....

 

[dviss1]

Funny thing... Obama spent the most money (increasing the debt) when he was president and there democrats controlled congress. The last 4 years, republicans controlled congress and the spending dropped in half. Weird huh?

Stop... You can't have it both ways... You aren't making sense. You can't say that the president spends when congress holds the purse strings...

 

[magnifier661]

Stop... You can't have it both ways... You aren't making sense. You can't say that the president spends when congress holds the purse strings...

I sure can when all the branches are controlled by one party. Much like when Bush was in his first term.

 

[riverman]

I'm not a republican. So fucking what??? When you defend a party and blame the other, it's pretty obvious where you lean to most.

You have chosen a scapegoat, now you're trying to define my politics...my disappointment with the republican party has nothing to do with political leanings. It has to do with the lack of cooperation they've shown in time of crisis and need. American government needs to work together to solve problems and the republicans have always drawn a line in the sand which you are also trying to do mags. Being devisive doesn't make it right.

 

[magnifier661]

Let's just admit that Bush Jr and Obama have completely fucked this country for the last 16 years and call it good

 

[Denny Crane]

Answer this:

When did Obama's budget get passed? You can't count the time at when he came into office bro... We were STILL on Bush's budget...

Obama's budget got passed in 2009, right after he took office. He raised Bush's budget by $800B a year on top of $800B in "emergency" stimulus spending (wasted and reckless spending) and $3T in money the Fed printed to keep the government from having massive interest payments on Obama's added debts.

Edit: Obama also spent 1/2 TARP which is another $400B.

 

[riverman]

Wait you just said I fucked the country by voting in republicans. Weird has you toss and turn on your debate

I was trying to show how ridiculous it is to single out an individual as being responsible for ruining a country..weird you didn't get the analogy