This is one of the most solid offseason plans i've seen

[santeesioux]

From DeBlazerRiddem on RealGM

Trade 1: Milwaukee

Bucks send Pachulia, Delfino, #36 to Portland for Leonard, Freeland, Crabbe, cash considerations. Bucks save a ton of money on veterans they don't really need and sell a 2ed round pick to Portland. Leonard is an athletic 7 footer who needs to be paired off the bench with a help defender at the PF (Henson), Freeland is a blue-collar type guy and Crabbe was considered a steal by the Blazers as a 3 point shooting SG/SF, who just didn't get much burn last season as Stott's was trying to win.

Knight - Wolters
Mayo - Crabbe
Giannis - Middleton
Illyasova - Henson - Freeland
Sanders - Raduljica - Leonard

+ #2, #31, #48 and ~$21 million in capspace


Trade 2: Philadelphia

Sixers send Young to Portland for McCollum and Robinson. They move a veteran who doesn't fit their timeline for two young guys with untapped potential. Robinson is a strong athlete who could provide a tough presence next to Noel in the front-court and McCollum is an off-ball shooter who would space the floor next to MCW in the backcourt. This assumes they draft Parker or Wiggins at #3. Also, if Philly doesn't think they will use all their second rounders, Portland would be open to buying one or two.

MCW - Wroten
McCollum - Anderson - Richardson
#3 - Thompson
Robinson - Moultrie
Noel - Mullens

+ #3, #10, #32, #39, #47, #52, #54 and ~$30-35 million in capspace


Portland:
They acquire a veteran laden bench. They use #36 to draft Russ Smith and get a young defender at the PG position. They resign Williams using the non-bird exception, use the MLE on a SG like Stuckey and the BAE on a 3rd string center like O'Neal (or Kaman/Okafor)

Lillard - Williams - Smith
Matthews - Stuckey - Barton
Batum - Wright - Delfino
Aldridge - Young - Claver
Lopez - Pachulia - O'Neal

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1326686

Except for Mo coming back.

 

[PDXFonz]

Trob and Lillard are the 2 players I would be upset if we traded.

I wanted Trob over Lillard in the draft. Like him even more now that he's a blazer. I see a lot of potential in Trob!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Experience upgrade.

Talent downgrade.

 

[santeesioux]

ZaZa is certainly not an exciting name, but he's a lot better than Freeland and Leonar. I think Young could compete for sixth man of the year, and maybe even Stuckey as well. Losing Trob would really suck though.

 

[STOMP]

Sixers send Young to Portland for McCollum and Robinson. They move a veteran who doesn't fit their timeline for two young guys with untapped potential.

Thaddeus just turned 25...how in the world is that too old?

STOMP

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Trob and Lillard are the 2 players I would be upset if we traded.

I wanted Trob over Lillard in the draft. Like him even more now that he's a blazer. I see a lot of potential in Trob!

This. He is basically a big version of Gerald Wallace.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

They resign Williams using the non-bird exception

Can someone explain this and can the Blazers do this and use the MLE too?

 

[B-Roy]

This. He is basically a big version of Gerald Wallace.

They have almost nothing in common.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I have always liked Pachulia.

 

[BigGameDamian]

ZaZa is certainly not an exciting name, but he's a lot better than Freeland and Leonar. I think Young could compete for sixth man of the year, and maybe even Stuckey as well. Losing Trob would really suck though.

I actually think the Blazers could use Pachulia's quick temper. Pachulia is not a big name but he gets it done and there are not many centers anymore with a back to the basket game. He would be great off the bench.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Yes, great off-season plan, trade our bench players for even less exciting bench players, change the entire team, mess with chemistry, without making us any better...
Also, Freeland and T-Rob are top two players in this entire scenario.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I like Young, but I don't see him being happy in a 6th man role. Would hate to lose TRob.

 

[STOMP]

Also, Freeland and T-Rob are top two players in this entire scenario.

Thaddeus Young is clearly better then those two. Using PER (I know, I know) as a tool to illuminate this, Young's career PER for his 6 seasons is 16.8 while Robinson & Freeland are coming off of their best PER seasons of 14.1 & 11.3 respectively. He's a proven starter level talent. Robinson has the physical potential to reach that level, but he'll need to dramatically improve his skills to do so.

STOMP

 

[Pinwheel1]

I like Young, but I don't see him being happy in a 6th man role. Would hate to lose TRob.

This would be my concern. He would opt out after one year. However since he is listed as a SF maybe he could get minutes at both spots and be happy.....

IMO Young is more like GW than TRob. Although I like him (and Puchulia for that matter), he is only listed at 6'8" and 220. I think TRob fits the mold better as a PF and can play with LMA better in order to get minutes.

It's not a horrible trade idea, but I would rather keep TRob, Freeland and CJ and just try to get Pachulia for Leonard and Wright.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Thaddeus Young is clearly better then those two. Using PER (I know, I know) as a tool to illuminate this, Young's career PER for his 6 seasons is 16.8 while Robinson & Freeland are coming off of their best PER seasons of 14.1 & 11.3 respectively. He's a proven starter level talent. Robinson has the physical potential to reach that level, but he'll need to dramatically improve his skills to do so.

STOMP

I think both would have at least Young's PER with more experience, minutes.

Not saying Young is not a nice player but we don't really need him, there are many nice players, T-Rob and Freeland are nice players and this scenario is so complicated which makes it very unlikely to be a realistic trade.

 

[Reep]

I like this trade in the short term, but if it doesn't get a title in the next two years you have fewer assets to work with to restructure.

Any trade that turns CJ, Crabbe, Freeland and Wright into better fitting pieces would be great though. I could part with TRob if I had to as he will forever be a bench player. MyLe is still too raw to know what he is.

 

[santeesioux]

We don't really need Young? He'd immediately be our best bench player that can play both forward spots.

 

[blue9]

I think that's buying high and selling low. Develop these players a little and we should be able to do better.
While I'm not high on CJ, I would want more in return than Young if Robinson is also included in the trade. I might have unrealistically high value assigned to Robinson, but that's how it is. CJ straight-up? Sure, whatever.
Also, I'm not so sure that Pacchulia will be better than Freeland next season. And while Leonard sucks, he's perfect as a 15th roster spot - he might one day become a much more valuable trade chip.

 

[jlprk]

They have almost nothing in common.

How come? Their styles are similar, which will cause their skills to converge. Robinson will learn the limits Wallace had to learn.

 

[Draco]

We don't really need Young? He'd immediately be our best bench player that can play both forward spots.

Young would be a great addition. If Philly considers him for TRob plus another piece I'd be all over it. But not sure if I'd throw in both TRob and CJ. It'd be tempting.

Zaza is on an overpaid contract, so if they just want Wright I'd be interested but I wouldn't give up any young player we value.

 

[B-Roy]

How come? Their styles are similar, which will cause their skills to converge. Robinson will learn the limits Wallace had to learn.

Wallace was a natural small forward and a lockdown defender in his prime. TRob can't handle the ball for the life of him and is generally clueless on defense. There's no chance TRob could never play the small forward position.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Wallace was a natural small forward and a lockdown defender in his prime. TRob can't handle the ball for the life of him and is generally clueless on defense. There's no chance TRob could never play the small forward position.

You are right, he is no way in a hell a SF. On the other hand he can help out at center when many teams go small.
As for being clueless on D.........disagree. I saw many instances when he played great D. I wouldn't call him the Lebron stopper, but he certainly was not clueless when trying. He will definitely get better on that end of the floor. He has shown enough flashes for that.

 

[B-Roy]

You are right, he is no way in a hell a SF. On the other hand he can help out at center when many teams go small.
As for being clueless on D.........disagree. I saw many instances when he played great D. I wouldn't call him the Lebron stopper, but he certainly was not clueless when trying. He will definitely get better on that end of the floor. He has shown enough flashes for that.

He makes good plays sometimes, but lacks awareness. His hustle gets it done on occasion. Nothing he can't improve however.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I reject this plan. Truck is going to be dominant when he figures it all out