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barfo said:
Hate to break this to you buddy, but most people think Trump is a crook, a liar, and incompetent.

barfo
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About 50%.

I hate to break it to you, but 65% think Hiliar is a crook.
 
Denny Crane said:
About 50%.

I hate to break it to you, but 65% think Hiliar is a crook.
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That's ok, because I know the difference between fact and an opinion poll.

barfo
 
MarAzul said:
I don't think so and I think they will vote for him. I am pretty sure you will not, and I will.
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Well, you and your Orange Leader can always claim the election was rigged if it doesn't go your way.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
I don't have a problem with the Clintons getting paid for speeches. Getting paid for speeches is a convenient way to pay for quid pro quo, and it is what happened. If Cheney kept his stock in Haliburton, you might have a point - but you don't. If Reagan's wife was going to run for president or serve as Secy of State, you might have a point - but you don't.

Those things didn't happen with Cheney and Reagan, so ... my point stands - you wouldn't know what actual corruption looks like.
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Bill Clinton got 64million and change over 4 years for consultation and speeches...that's over 5 million less than Allan Crabbe will get over 4 seasons of hoops.
 
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MarAzul said:
Ha! If you were out meeting the folks I meet daily, your opinion on this matter would draw smiles, silence, and charity.
I guess S2 is your domain, err the Willamette Valley members of course.
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Honestly I used to have so much contact with the public that I had something to gauge public opinion with but the last two years, I have very little contact with the masses out there..and I'm lovin' every minute of it
 
riverman said:
Bill Clinton got 64million and change over 4 years for consultation and speeches...that's 11 million less than Allan Crabbe will get over 4 seasons of hoops.
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Deny will now start hating on Crabbe... (he'll deny that, of course)

barfo
 
From the Dallas Morning News:

“Those are real shortcomings. But they pale in comparison to the litany of evils some opponents accuse her of,” the editorial said. “Treason? Murder? Her being cleared of crimes by investigation after investigation has no effect on these political hyenas; they refuse to see anything but conspiracies and cover-ups.”

That's you they are talking about, Deny!

barfo
 
barfo said:
Deny will now start hating on Crabbe... (he'll deny that, of course)

barfo
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I fixed it....should have been 5 mill instead of 11...and only 13 mill more than Meyers Leonard...that's even more effective
 
This thread is one of those, "Less filling!" vs "Great taste!" debates.
 
I have my plan, I like my plan, it's a great plan. I'm going to ask the generals for their plan, if it's like my plan we'll go with their plan.
 
Trump now wants to pump a fortune into a military budget increase and says he'll defeat ISIS in 30 days....once his generals tell him how
 
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...diplomatic-passport-clinton-state-department/

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 510 pages of new State Department documents, including a 2009 request by Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band for diplomatic passports for himself and an associate. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aide Abedin responded to Band’s request positively, saying, “Ok will figure it out.” The emails show Hillary Clinton forwarding classified information to Abedin’s unsecured, non-state.gov account. The emails also show Bill Clinton sought a meeting with Mrs. Clinton for a major Clinton donor with State Department officials and Hillary Clinton herself pushed for a joint event with the Clinton Global Initiative. Band also pushed for and obtained special help from Abedin for seven-figure Clinton Foundation donor Chris Ruddy, of Newsmax.com.

The Band request was for a special diplomatic passport for himself and his associates – an unidentified “JD” and apparently Justin Cooper, formerly a key member of Bill Clinton’s personal office and the Clinton Foundation who has been linked to registration documents for and the shutting down of the email server at the center of Mrs. Clinton’s State Department emails controversy.

The Band-Abedin exchange went as follows:

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Jul 27, 2009 10:32 AM

Subject:

Need get me/ justy and jd dip passports

We had them years ago but they lapsed and we didn’t bother getting them

From: Huma Abedin [Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:38:39 PM

To: Doug Band

Subject: Re:

Ok will figure it out

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations strictly limits the granting of diplomatic passports to members of the Foreign Service, their family members, or those working on U.S. government contracts. According to 22 CFR 51.3:

A diplomatic passport is issued to a Foreign Service officer or to a person having diplomatic status or comparable status because he or she is traveling abroad to carry out diplomatic duties on behalf of the U.S. Government. When authorized by the Department, spouses and family members of such persons may be issued diplomatic passports. When authorized by the Department, a diplomatic passport may be issued to a U.S. Government contractor if the contractor meets the eligibility requirements for a diplomatic passport and the diplomatic passport is necessary to complete his or her mission.​
 
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MARIS61 said:
Judicial Watch has, and they have presented the evidence in court.

No University involved, just a bogus charity operating as a money-launderer for the Clinton Pay for Influence/Pay for State Secrets Cartel.
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Oops! Spoke too soon!

If it's an opportunity for criminal enterprise, the Clintons never say no:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html?tid=a_inl-amp

The guest list for a private State Department dinner on higher- education policy was taking shape when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton offered a suggestion.


In addition to recommending invitations for leaders from a community college and a church-funded institution, Clinton wanted a representative from a for-profit college company called Laureate International Universities, which, she explained in an email to her chief of staff that was released last year, was “the fastest growing college network in the world.”


There was another reason Clinton favored setting a seat aside for Laureate at the August 2009 event: The company was started by a businessman, Doug Becker, “who Bill likes a lot,” the secretary wrote, referring to her husband, the former president.


Nine months later, Laureate signed Bill Clinton to a lucrative deal as a consultant and “honorary chancellor,” paying him $17.6 million over five years until the contract ended in 2015 as Hillary Clinton launched her campaign for president.
 
NOT the onion.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ters-prefer-over-hillary-clinton-donald-trump

Poll: 13 percent prefer meteor hitting earth over Clinton, Trump

More than 1 in 10 voters say they'd prefer a giant meteor hitting earth over supporting Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

The left-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP) offered the hypothetical "Giant Meteor" option in its latest survey. Forty-three percent picked Clinton, 38 percent picked Trump and 13 percent picked the Giant Meteor hitting earth. Another 7 percent were unsure.
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...diplomatic-passport-clinton-state-department/

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch today released 510 pages of new State Department documents, including a 2009 request by Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band for diplomatic passports for himself and an associate. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s aide Abedin responded to Band’s request positively, saying, “Ok will figure it out.” The emails show Hillary Clinton forwarding classified information to Abedin’s unsecured, non-state.gov account. The emails also show Bill Clinton sought a meeting with Mrs. Clinton for a major Clinton donor with State Department officials and Hillary Clinton herself pushed for a joint event with the Clinton Global Initiative. Band also pushed for and obtained special help from Abedin for seven-figure Clinton Foundation donor Chris Ruddy, of Newsmax.com.

The Band request was for a special diplomatic passport for himself and his associates – an unidentified “JD” and apparently Justin Cooper, formerly a key member of Bill Clinton’s personal office and the Clinton Foundation who has been linked to registration documents for and the shutting down of the email server at the center of Mrs. Clinton’s State Department emails controversy.

The Band-Abedin exchange went as follows:

From: Doug Band

To: Huma Abedin

Sent: Jul 27, 2009 10:32 AM

Subject:

Need get me/ justy and jd dip passports

We had them years ago but they lapsed and we didn’t bother getting them

From: Huma Abedin [Huma@clintonemail.com]

Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:38:39 PM

To: Doug Band

Subject: Re:

Ok will figure it out

The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations strictly limits the granting of diplomatic passports to members of the Foreign Service, their family members, or those working on U.S. government contracts. According to 22 CFR 51.3:

A diplomatic passport is issued to a Foreign Service officer or to a person having diplomatic status or comparable status because he or she is traveling abroad to carry out diplomatic duties on behalf of the U.S. Government. When authorized by the Department, spouses and family members of such persons may be issued diplomatic passports. When authorized by the Department, a diplomatic passport may be issued to a U.S. Government contractor if the contractor meets the eligibility requirements for a diplomatic passport and the diplomatic passport is necessary to complete his or her mission.​
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There's only one little problem with your story. And I'm sure you know what it is, but somehow you forgot to mention it. Probably because of your busy hate-mongering schedule.

The passports weren't actually issued. So someone asked for a special favor and didn't get it. That's quite a scandal you've got there.

Oh, and you also forgot to mention why they wanted the passports - they wanted to go with Bill Clinton to North Korea to negotiate for release of a couple of Americans.

barfo
 
Denny Crane said:
NOT the onion.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ters-prefer-over-hillary-clinton-donald-trump

Poll: 13 percent prefer meteor hitting earth over Clinton, Trump

More than 1 in 10 voters say they'd prefer a giant meteor hitting earth over supporting Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton.

The left-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP) offered the hypothetical "Giant Meteor" option in its latest survey. Forty-three percent picked Clinton, 38 percent picked Trump and 13 percent picked the Giant Meteor hitting earth. Another 7 percent were unsure.
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In other polling news, Putin has an 82% approval rating.

barfo
 
Yes, but the real test is, how many would prefer the Gout over Trump? Any dumb ass knows they would never know the meteor hit unless it is a painless pebble.
 
barfo said:
There's only one little problem with your story. And I'm sure you know what it is, but somehow you forgot to mention it. Probably because of your busy hate-mongering schedule.

The passports weren't actually issued. So someone asked for a special favor and didn't get it. That's quite a scandal you've got there.

Oh, and you also forgot to mention why they wanted the passports - they wanted to go with Bill Clinton to North Korea to negotiate for release of a couple of Americans.

barfo
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Just when YOU think you're right, the facts get in your way.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-...on-foundation-exec-sought-diplomatic-passport

It's unclear whether the request resulted in the acquisition of a diplomatic passport for Band or either associate. The State Department declined to comment on the individual case, citing the Privacy Act, but an official pointed to the standard regulations governing the issuance of diplomatic passports.

“Diplomatic passports are issued to Foreign Service Officers or a person having diplomatic or comparable status because he or she is traveling abroad to carry out diplomatic duties on behalf of the U.S. Government,” the official said.

“Any individuals who do not have this status are not issued Diplomatic passports. Even when issued, Diplomatic passports are only given enough validity to facilitate a bearer’s travel while in such status. After that, the passport expires.

“The staff of former Presidents are not included among those eligible to be issued a Diplomatic passport.”
 
Denny Crane said:
Just when YOU think you're right, the facts get in your way.

It's unclear whether the request resulted in the acquisition of a diplomatic passport for Band or either associate.
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Well, the original reporting on the story said that the passports were not issued, but of course I have no first-hand knowledge of whether they were or weren't.

Let's go with your version.

So you are saying this is a scandal despite that according to your own source, it is unclear whether anything ever happened other than a request for a favor?

You are not doing a very good job of appearing objective here, Deny.

barfo
 
BlazerCaravan said:
Why is Denny spelling Hillary's name all weird?
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Google it spelled that way, chances are you will get shit in Spanish before you find a link to this post or any of the 500 million posts on the internet with it used like that. I just did it and actually got a link to a youtube video but they used quotation marks in the title so it got past Google hiding it from us.

There is actually a way to type it so it gets past the filters, I read about it a few weeks ago so I can't remember exactly what it was. Use a lowercase l instead of an i or something like that.
 
barfo said:
Well, the original reporting on the story said that the passports were not issued, but of course I have no first-hand knowledge of whether they were or weren't.

Let's go with your version.

So you are saying this is a scandal despite that according to your own source, it is unclear whether anything ever happened other than a request for a favor?

You are not doing a very good job of appearing objective here, Deny.

barfo
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It's called an attempted bribe, and it's a felony.
 
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