This so called Three-Team Trade

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (footswalker @ Jan 30 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Outlaw is the best part of this trade for the Nets. He can be as good as he wants to be. The lift he gets on his jumper is incredible, and when he goes to the hole, he's there in like a blink with quick long steps. But, my question is, he's a prototype small forward, how can he and RJ play together?</div>

Outlaw actually plays a lot of PF.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Jan 30 2008, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What happens to Sergio Rodriguez if this deal goes through? I know Portland was high on him eventually becoming the starter at one point. Devin Harris makes him expendable.

Not to mention Harris is out for 2 to 3 weeks with an injury.</div>
I think Portland looks at Harris as a longtime starting pointguard to compliment Roy, Webster, Aldridge and Oden...pretty nasty starting lineup at least potentially.

As for RJ and Outlaw working well together...I think it would work for now but we would probably look to move RJ at the end of the season right before or right after the draft.
 
Welcome to the site, 5WAT-51! If you need anything, lemme know.

I gotta be honest...I don't see this happening at all. Portland is good right now. They got a good core, and Jack, Frye, and Outlaw are important parts of their team (especially Outlaw). It just wouldn't make sense to me. Hell, nothing about this trade makes sense to me.

Why would Dallas do it? Why would Portland do it? Why would the Nets take on 2 wing players when they already have about 5 of em? Is Carter getting traded, too?
 
The Hawks trade I proposed has been the best one you guys have gotten imo, and I'm pretty sure BK wouldn't think twice on pulling the trigger on it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Hawks trade I proposed has been the best one you guys have gotten imo, and I'm pretty sure BK wouldn't think twice on pulling the trigger on it.</div>
If I remember correctly the deal you proposed was around 12 million in salary away from actually working...also even if it worked this current proposal would be an excellent deal for the Nets.

Three young players...outlaw, jack, frye
expiring contracts...stack, diop, george
two first round draft picks

All for Jason Kidd, Darrell Armstrong and Malik Allen?

Yes please.
 
I just saw the trade on ESPN, and it's horrible for Portland. the Blazer's GM Pretchard isn't an idiot and I doubt he'll do it. Why would you trade 3 players who are in your rotation for a young, always injured overrated PG? Not to mention they'll only be making a team in their conference way better.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jan 30 2008, 09:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I just saw the trade on ESPN, and it's horrible for Portland. the Blazer's GM Pretchard isn't an idiot and I doubt he'll do it. Why would you trade 3 players who are in your rotation for a young, always injured overrated PG? Not to mention they'll only be making a team in their conference way better.</div>
From what I was reading on espn there seems to be a lot of speculation that Pritchard is absolutely in enamored by the idea of getting Harris and supposedly thinks he would be a great combination with Roy for years to come.

I'm not saying they are actually gonna do the trade but obviously the rumor has legs and isn't just pure speculation from Dave D...if this trade goes down though than Rod Thorn should be handcuffed cause he's commiting robbery...
 
When I think of the trade, I think how good a Harris-Roy backcourt would be, but their giving up way to much.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Jan 30 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the more I think about it, the more unlikely I feel it happening.</div>
Co-sign.Dont be surprised if the Nets move Vince or RJ.
 
the future NJ Net tonight looks good 7 pts 4 rebs and solid play from Channing Frye, oh the pick n' roll w/ him and MW
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok because it seems like Al Izzaone can't use the ESPN trade checker

Kidd 3 way to Dallas trade # 2</div>
Whatever your smoking...I want me some.
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instead of making smarta.. comments why don't you explain why it's not a reasonable deal
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok because it seems like Al Izzaone can't use the ESPN trade checker

Kidd 3 way to Dallas trade # 2</div>
Whatever your smoking...I want me some.
</div>

instead of making smarta.. comments why don't you explain why it's not a reasonable deal
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The size of our roster for one. The Trailblazers blowing up their team for one oft-injured player and another one who hasn't played in the past 2 years for a second one.
 
better yet I'll explain why this deal can happen

Portland has a bunch of talented PGs

1. Rudy Fernandez
2. Sergio Rodriguez
3. Steve Blake

losing Jarret Jack will not hurt them

Martell Webster has 2 yrs. of service left before he is a FA, Outlaw is the only one who I'm not sure about but lets face it he's no big loss here either the FA market will have some players for next season and the plan is for Por. to build a championship team, most likely the FA market will have replaceable SFs that can do what Outlaw does. Devin Harris would add a solid role playing PG who is young and coachable. Frye has been coveted by Jersey since the summer of 07', in losing Frye they would need a replacement big add Kirstic who is a FA after this season anyway.

Dallas more importantly their GM wants Kidd to add an experienced PG who can make Howard and Dirk better, giving them Boki because NJ would want this 3 way to happen and Malik because lets face it's JKidd your getting here. Anyway Malik would add a shooter off the bench for Dal.

New Jersey's end of this deal

in rebuilding a franchise and making a franchise move you have to have shakeups and a change of the guard. I know people want Stackhouse to buy him out but putting myself in Dallas's shoe why would you give away an expiring contract like that. Instead moving a moveable player w/ some years in Terry would be ideal and Terry is the type of player Kiki loves, high I.Q. and a good shooting mechanic.

Frye, Webster, Jack, Outlaw & Bass (not a bad haul if you ask me & and some trade chips in here too)

Diop & George can be packaged somewhere for a better part or bought out.
 
if I pissed anyone off I'm sorry about that, I just want to show why this deal can happen. And it has been said Dallas has been trying to move Terry for awhile now.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok because it seems like Al Izzaone can't use the ESPN trade checker

Kidd 3 way to Dallas trade # 2</div>
Whatever your smoking...I want me some.
</div>

instead of making smarta.. comments why don't you explain why it's not a reasonable deal
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Portland would never in a million years make that trade.
Devon Harris is a nice player as is Nenad but there value does not equate to Webster, Outlaw, Frye and Jack

I think this might be more fair:here.

As reported earlier both Portland and Dallas would send 1st rounders to NJ.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok because it seems like Al Izzaone can't use the ESPN trade checker

Kidd 3 way to Dallas trade # 2</div>
Whatever your smoking...I want me some.
</div>

instead of making smarta.. comments why don't you explain why it's not a reasonable deal
</div>
Portland would never in a million years make that trade.
Devon Harris is a nice player as is Nenad but there value does not equate to Webster, Outlaw, Frye and Jack

I think this might be more fair:here.

As reported earlier both Portland and Dallas would send 1st rounders to NJ.
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that wouldn't be bad but Portland loves Steve Blake I doubt they would deal him and Dallas is not in any rush to trade Eddie. I think somewhere in between this deal will happen it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 30 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Jan 30 2008, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ok because it seems like Al Izzaone can't use the ESPN trade checker

Kidd 3 way to Dallas trade # 2</div>
Whatever your smoking...I want me some.
</div>

instead of making smarta.. comments why don't you explain why it's not a reasonable deal
</div>
Portland would never in a million years make that trade.
Devon Harris is a nice player as is Nenad but there value does not equate to Webster, Outlaw, Frye and Jack

I think this might be more fair:here.

As reported earlier both Portland and Dallas would send 1st rounders to NJ.
</div>

that wouldn't be bad but Portland loves Steve Blake I doubt they would deal him and Dallas is not in any rush to trade Eddie. I think somewhere in between this deal will happen it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
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If Portland loved Steve Blake they wouldn't be sweating Devon Harris like they are. The reason this trade works is because the Trailblazers don't get fleeced. Martell Webster is a natural SG but is forced to play SF because of Roy...Outlaw has too good of a contract and to much upside to trade but Webster does make sense. Frye is a good player but he's a backup for them so he's expendable and Blake isn't really needed if you get a player like Harris...especially if you still have Jack and Rodriquez.

Dallas can slide Terry to SG and keep Josh Howard while gaining Jkidd...its good for them.

And us...well we get young talent, expiring contracts and two first rounders.
 
If the Nets are forced to take Channing Frye, at least can they get Rudy Fernandez instead of Jack?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 31 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Nets are forced to take Channing Frye, at least can they get Rudy Fernandez instead of Jack?</div>

doubt it they really love that guy, he's who they want as the next franchise PG
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 31 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Nets are forced to take Channing Frye, at least can they get Rudy Fernandez instead of Jack?</div>
Frye isn't that bad.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jloc857 @ Jan 31 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Portland loved Steve Blake they wouldn't be sweating Devon Harris like they are. The reason this trade works is because the Trailblazers don't get fleeced. Martell Webster is a natural SG but is forced to play SF because of Roy...Outlaw has too good of a contract and to much upside to trade but Webster does make sense. Frye is a good player but he's a backup for them so he's expendable and Blake isn't really needed if you get a player like Harris...especially if you still have Jack and Rodriquez.

Dallas can slide Terry to SG and keep Josh Howard while gaining Jkidd...its good for them.

And us...well we get young talent, expiring contracts and two first rounders.</div>

Frye is expendable since they have Joel and McRoberts in developement (don't forget Greg Oden), on Harris it's pretty simple, depth and he's a prototypical PG who can feed off of Roy and not mess up ball movement, most likely Blake becomes trade bait for another deal or he's put off the bench and Harris becomes the starting PG. Dallas has been trying to rid Terry's contract so much they offered him w/ a pick for Corey Maggette
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 31 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Nets are forced to take Channing Frye, at least can they get Rudy Fernandez instead of Jack?</div>
Frye isn't that bad.
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You take him, then.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 31 2008, 12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jan 31 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Nets are forced to take Channing Frye, at least can they get Rudy Fernandez instead of Jack?</div>
Frye isn't that bad.
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You take him, then.
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Kiki would love him a 6'10 forward who can shoot and is fundamentally sound.
 
I was watching the Blazers game earlier and they were talking about this trade and apparently the Blazers GM had heard nothing about this (according to him). Plus, in all honesty, the Blazers would be very dumb to do this trade. They'd be giving up a whole bunch of talent only to get Devin Harris in return. It'd completely mess with the chemistry this team has got going. No way the Blazers do this. Plus, why would they want to be involved in a deal that's going to help the Mavs more than it's going to help them?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Jan 31 2008, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I was watching the Blazers game earlier and they were talking about this trade and apparently the Blazers GM had heard nothing about this (according to him). Plus, in all honesty, the Blazers would be very dumb to do this trade. They'd be giving up a whole bunch of talent only to get Devin Harris in return. It'd completely mess with the chemistry this team has got going. No way the Blazers do this. Plus, why would they want to be involved in a deal that's going to help the Mavs more than it's going to help them?</div>

no one knows the full pieces going to Portland yet, but the rumors aren't rumors it's actual truth
 
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