This Whole KP "Swingin' For The Fences" Thing.......

[ABM]

Or, does Paul Allen think a coach who has won one play-off series in 10 years as a head coach.......is the coach to take this team to the next level....

Absolutely. That's why Vulcan has demanded some more experienced assistant(s). I mean, everyone knows Phil Jackson would be nowhere without Tex Winter.

 

[BGrantFan]

Yes, you get paid to be a caddy for a mod. Specifically, this caddy:

But yes, I'd be interested to see any link that is anything but random speculation to back up your statements.

barfo

This entire board is random speculation. My belief is that Paul Allen is an insecure manchild who needs people more competent than him to give him accolades for things he isn't even remotely involved with other than saying yes or no. This post is my link for proof of my opinion.

Do you even have opinions, or do you just use snark as some sort of low-level defense mechanism?

 

[e_blazer]

So, if that's your guess, why isn't Nate the one on the hot seat? Pritchard may not be perfect, but the roster he's assembled has done more to improve this team than anything Nate has done. Or, does Paul Allen think a coach who has won one play-off series in 10 years as a head coach, barely has a winning regular season record (0.509) and a losing post season record (0.429) is the coach to take this team to the next level, and do it quickly? If Paul Allen is really in a desperate win-now mode, Nate should be the one on the hot seat, not Pritchard.

BNM

What makes you think he isn't? Do you really think he just decided to dump Demopolous and Prunty and bring in a seasoned former head coach to back him up on a whim or because he suddenly doesn't trust in his own abilities? IMHO, that has the fingerprints of PA and the Vulcans all over it. I think if the Blazers don't make it out of the first round next season, Nate's history.

 

[e_blazer]

"You don't know what you're talking about, so instead of letting it go, I'll offer my own worthless speculation that proves I don't know what I'm talking about, either."

Yeah, pretty much. At least I'm making it clear when I'm offering an opinion or a guess as opposed to stating unsourced crap as fact.

That was essentially your post. Thanks for sharing it.

No problem. Glad to do it.

Still wondering how Raef LaFrentz plays into this, considering keeping him saved Paul Allen over $10 million last year.

PA's never shown any hesitation about spending money when it's going to make the team better. I don't think it was not using RLEC alone that may have PA's shorts in a twist, I think it was not getting more for all of the planned cap space last summer than a solid PG with two years left in his tank.

But that's just a guess.

 

[barfo]

This entire board is random speculation. My belief is that Paul Allen is an insecure manchild who needs people more competent than him to give him accolades for things he isn't even remotely involved with other than saying yes or no. This post is my link for proof of my opinion.

Do you even have opinions, or do you just use snark as some sort of low-level defense mechanism?

I have opinions. My opinion is that your opinion is unfounded.

Truth is, nobody here knows why KP is in dutch. I don't. You don't. You are certainly welcome to your opinion on the subject, and stated as such, I have no problem with it whatsoever. It's when you state it as if it were fact that I object. Maybe it was clear that it was just your opinion. If so, I misread your post. If so, a trillion apologies.

barfo

 

[ABM]

I don't think it was not using RLEC alone that may have PA's shorts in a twist, I think it was not getting more for all of the planned cap space last summer than a solid PG with two years left in his tank.

*cough*Daruis Miles*cough*

 

[BGrantFan]

PA's never shown any hesitation about spending money when it's going to make the team better. I don't think it was not using RLEC alone that may have PA's shorts in a twist, I think it was not getting more for all of the planned cap space last summer than a solid PG with two years left in his tank.

But that's just a guess.

So ... which free agents from last summer made a bigger impact on their new team than Andre Miller made on the Blazers? We had one summer of cap space. It happened to be during the worst FA class in recent memory. Still, after losing 300 games to injury, the GM managed to put together a team that still won 50 games.

I feel confident defending Pritchard. All I see from the anti-Pritchard crowd, the people like you, is attacking posters and then offering your own speculation. What is your track record as a GM?

 

[Ed O]

What is your track record as a GM?

Hahaha.

What is your track record of firing GMs?

Ed O.

 

[BGrantFan]

Hahaha.

What is your track record of firing GMs?

Ed O.

Who hired Patterson and nash?

 

[Boob-No-More]

What makes you think he isn't? Do you really think he just decided to dump Demopolous and Prunty and bring in a seasoned former head coach to back him up on a whim or because he suddenly doesn't trust in his own abilities? IMHO, that has the fingerprints of PA and the Vulcans all over it. I think if the Blazers don't make it out of the first round next season, Nate's history.

What makes me think Nate isn't on the hot seat? Exactly what you just wrote. Nate gets another year, and if he fails to make it out of the 1st round for the third consecutive season, then he might get fired? He should have been fired IMMEDIATELY after getting TOTALLY outcoached by Alvin Gentry.

But no, he gets another year to prove he's not the right coach to take this team to the next level, but Pritchard is supposedly gone after the draft. Why does Nate get a longer leash than Pritchard? That is, assuming Pritchard is being let go for performance reasons. If he's not, this is one fucked up organization.

BNM

 

[oldmangrouch]

Is everyone here just offering speculation and opinion over why KP appears to be a goner?

Heck yes.

And why is that happening? Because the people who could offer an explanation are choosing to jerk the fans around and treat us like mushrooms.

 

[jlprk]

He's firing Pritchard because his feellings are hurt. I wouldn't label any scenario unreasonable with the manchild we have owning the Blazers. Rational thought isn't always going to win the day.

Speaking of a manchild whose feelings tend to get hurt, multiple jealous media sources say Allen is firing Pritchard because you project your emotions onto Paul Allen.

 

[e_blazer]

So ... which free agents from last summer made a bigger impact on their new team than Andre Miller made on the Blazers? We had one summer of cap space. It happened to be during the worst FA class in recent memory. Still, after losing 300 games to injury, the GM managed to put together a team that still won 50 games.

My opinion is that the original plan for not using RLEC and clearing cap space for last summer was to make a run at Kobe Bryant. I know for an absolute fact that KP and his staff were considering this because I heard KP say it at the meet and greet that ABM organized two seasons ago. Obviously, this plan blew up when the Darius Miles situation cost the Blazers $9 million off of their available cap space. When that happened, Kobe re-signed with the Lakers and left the Blazers with a slim crop of free agents. If I were PA, in hindsight I might question the decision making of my GM in electing to go for such a high risk game plan and coming up with not much to show for it. Turkoglu looks to have been a bad idea as a backup plan. Millsap would have been nice, but that blew up in KP's face. Miller is a nice piece, but he's not the impact player for the long run of a young team that the Blazers had to be hoping to land with the only cap space their likely to have for years to come.

I feel confident defending Pritchard. All I see from the anti-Pritchard crowd, the people like you, is attacking posters and then offering your own speculation.

Funny thing is, I'm a KP supporter. I think he's done a good job and I hope he can do something in the draft and save his job. I was just giving my guess, labeled as such, as to why KP's on the hot seat.

What is your track record as a GM?

About the same as yours.

 

[crandc]

In fairness, Millsap can't be blamed on KP. He was a restricted free agent. KP made a very lucrative offer and essentially dared Utah to match, which they did. It's not that they did not try hard enough or sell Portland.

 

[e_blazer]

In fairness, Millsap can't be blamed on KP. He was a restricted free agent. KP made a very lucrative offer and essentially dared Utah to match, which they did. It's not that they did not try hard enough or sell Portland.

True, but the knock on KP would be that the plan for using the cap space came down to a high risk offer with little chance of winning.

 

[BGrantFan]

He should have been fired IMMEDIATELY after getting TOTALLY outcoached by Alvin Gentry.



BNM

Now THAT is hilarious. Nate's team managed to win 2 games without a healthy Brandon Roy.

 

[RoyToy]

The Spurs/Greg Popovich won how many games against the Suns?

I think you can argue the two teams in the WC that have given the Lakers the most trouble the past two years are the Rockets and Suns. Not definite, but debatable.

 

[hasoos]

"You don't know what you're talking about, so instead of letting it go, I'll offer my own worthless speculation that proves I don't know what I'm talking about, either."

That was essentially your post. Thanks for sharing it.

Still wondering how Raef LaFrentz plays into this, considering keeping him saved Paul Allen over $10 million last year.

Sure it saved him that money that one year. But how much money did he pay him to sit on the bench and do nothing for? RLEC was brought in to provide a negotiating piece, not to suck up a fat paycheck and do nothing.

 

[RoyToy]

Sure it saved him that money that one year. But how much money did he pay him to sit on the bench and do nothing for? RLEC was brought in to provide a negotiating piece, not to suck up a fat paycheck and do nothing.

Those pieces at the tradeline ended up being VC, Jefferson, Gerald Wallace, Miller. Yeah, not great.

Sometimes the best trade is no trade. I don't think PA realizes this, and that's what separates Pritchard from hacks like Trader Bob.

 

[STOMP]

Is everyone here just offering speculation and opinion over why KP appears to be a goner?

Heck yes.

And why is that happening? Because the people who could offer an explanation are choosing to jerk the fans around and treat us like mushrooms.

please. When the club's President offered his views on KP's status and refuted the validity of the rumors his statements were mocked by you and others too. Some posters are choosing to read into the tea leaves following the lead of the regular gossip mongers, which is fine... some fans really enjoy speculating and freaking out. But you can't tell me that the club hasn't made any effort to offer explanations, some just want to do the dance

we're not in on the decisions and never will be. We won't be in on any internal discussions on prospects, potential coaches, or management ever. That seems like the smart way to go to me... if you owned the club would you be an open book in all matters for the fans?

STOMP

 

[BGrantFan]

Speaking of a manchild whose feelings tend to get hurt, multiple jealous media sources say Allen is firing Pritchard because you project your emotions onto Paul Allen.

This doesn't even make sense. Are you getting enough sleep? Posts at 2am, posts at 6am, those sort of hours can't be easy for a man of your age.

 

[ABM]

For the record, I sincerely hope I'm wrong!

 

[Boob-No-More]

What evidence is there that he's been quoting a single source? That seems like a silly assumption.

Also, while it's possible that Woj has been wrong but he somehow convinced the Blazers' management that KP is not the Golden Child, I think it's more likely that Woj had it right before it was generally known.

Ed O.

Mark Warkentein has been jealous of Pritchard and has coveted his job for years. In Denver, he's been limited by an owner that has a no luxury tax policy. That's why he had to give Marcus Camby away for nothing. He wants to work for an owner with deep pockets that will give him the freedom he lacks in Denver. Where do you think AWoj has been getting all of his anti-Pritchard information? Warkentein has been feeding it to him in an effort to undermine Pritchard and steal his job.

Now this. What a totally douchebag move. He's asking to interview for KP's job when KP is still employed by the Blazers and has over a year left on his current contract. Do you really think this is all just a big coincidence and that Mark Warkentein has absolutely nothing to do with AWoj's smear campaign against Kevin Pritchard?

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

That can't be true! My source says KP missed a important dungeon and dragon event at Paul's house. The next day, Paul called KP, but talked to Tom Penn instead who said KP hates dungeons and dragons, and Tom said he thought it was gay too. Tom Penn was fired on the spot and Larry Miller was then forced to play because he had a open spot. Larry has to find a GM that will play KP's Elf character every thursday THEN KP will be fired. The Vulcans need their dungeon and dragon fix all will do anything to keep their 30 years geek game going.

KP's obvious solution? He just needs to wear this:

 

[crandc]

Well, obviously, if Tom Penn used the word "gay" in such a derogatory fashion (as in gay = stupid, senseless) I'd fire his ass. Seriously.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Well, obviously, if Tom Penn used the word "gay" in such a derogatory fashion (as in gay = stupid, senseless) I'd fire his ass. Seriously.

If he used it in that manner in casual conversation outside of the work environment?

 

[crandc]

If he used it in that manner in casual conversation outside of the work environment?

OK, in that case I'd just kick his ass. Hard.

 

[Idog1976]

That can't be true! My source says KP missed a important dungeon and dragon event at Paul's house. The next day, Paul called KP, but talked to Tom Penn instead who said KP hates dungeons and dragons, and Tom said he thought it was gay too. Tom Penn was fired on the spot and Larry Miller was then forced to play because he had a open spot. Larry has to find a GM that will play KP's Elf character every thursday THEN KP will be fired. The Vulcans need their dungeon and dragon fix all will do anything to keep their 30 years geek game going.

Arguably the most badass post I've seen since the Oden injury in December.

Reminds me of the dice in the alley scene in this video 0:35 mark:

[video=youtube;N9qYF9DZPdw]

Actually everything about Paul Allen owning an NBA team reminds me of this video...

 

[jlprk]

This doesn't even make sense. Are you getting enough sleep? Posts at 2am, posts at 6am, those sort of hours can't be easy for a man of your age.

It's 4:58 am. Ready for a hairy-chested draft day? Make me some ham and eggs.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Well, obviously, if Tom Penn used the word "gay" in such a derogatory fashion (as in gay = stupid, senseless) I'd fire his ass. Seriously.

Where is this from, I can't find anything in this thread about it?