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maybe thats why they signed miles...stop the blazers from becoming better.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=scoutsviewsthingslooking&prov=tsn&type=lgns

Heres the blazer part from the article...

Im on board with Memphis. The Grizzlies remind me of Portland from last season. I don’t think they’ll win as many games but if they continue to progress, they could be a playoff team next year. They’re different from Portland because Portland is all about jump shooters but the Grizzlies have slashers who can get to the basket. There’s a lot on their roster to like.

hard to disagree with what he says. we really dont have guys taht get to the line. if we dont hit the jumpers...we are f@2cked just like tonight vs denver. Pritchard needs to tarde for SF that can slash and score without relying on his jumper. Also a backup PF seems to be a need as well.
 
Once Oden is healthy, he'll eat his words....which oddly don't exist because he's not saying anything about being more promising.....
 
Can't disagree either. The Grizz now have two players that attack the rim. That's one more than Portland.
 
well then thats just a bad job on our GM. Im so sick of hearing "let the cake bake." We know what we have. We know what we dont have as evident tonight vs denver. I think the f'in cake is over cooked at this point. KP should realize we dont have time to wait for martell (another jump shooter) to return. Batum isnt the answer at SF right now. We need a slasher scorer. Roy cannot do it every night. His body wonmt make it through teh season. Aldridge is a jump shooting PF who rarely bangs.

Remeber Denny Green when he coached Arizona. "they are who we thought they were" quote? Well thats what teams are saying about the bLazers. JUMP SHOOTERS AND NO INSIDE GAME. Take away roy and let them shoot jumpers. Barkely said it a year ago...and is still on the money.

i mean what the hell is KP waiting for? He doesnt know what we have in outlaw, frye and sergio? They are all guys who should be traded for players thatt can actually help us make the playoffs. We have raefs contarct and we dont do anything. Its getting annoying. MAKE A F"in trade to help this team. How many more times do we need to see outlaw take awful shots? How many more times do we need to see frye commit a dumb foul cause he couldnt rebound? How many more times do we need to see sergio get schooled by backup pgs? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
 
Hmm... there is a third type of player. Guys that live near the basket and take the ball to the hole from near the hole. The Blazers have an excellent guy in that department, if he can just get a little confidence going.

Not to mention, I would say the Blazers have at least three guys who fit the description of "slasher" types: Brandon Roy, as well as Travis Outlaw, and Rudy Fernandez. Does the offense need to be mixed up, or do these other guys need to be given better opportunities to slash, rather than spot up? No doubt. But don't for a second say that the Blazers only have one slashing player. (Batum has some slashing skills, as well, and so may Martell Webster when he returns...)
 
I think once we get a spot up 3 point shooter it will make more sense. I'm personally not worried....Jerryd Bayless is an attack the basket type of player...he's just not getting the burn to do so. Overall, I'm not worried...we'll be fine once the dust settles and Martell is back and Oden gets healthy and comfortable.

and stays out of foul trouble.
 
Rudys game = threes, wild shots, alley oops.

cant make a pull up jumper to save his life. his defense is the risky type. steal or hes burned.
 
please stop with teh bayless crap. Hes not ready. Hes not even close.

im so sick of teh bayless love fest. the kid cant even make a wide open shot whens hes in the game. good thing he had a good summer league.
 
stop being a pessimist. The kid is young, he'll be good. You'll see and eat crow someday
 
MIXUM said:
please stop with teh bayless crap. Hes not ready. Hes not even close.

im so sick of teh bayless love fest. the kid cant even make a wide open shot whens hes in the game. good thing he had a good summer league.
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I don't get it. You're lamenting about slashers and attackers being absent from our team, yet when we bring up one you start complaining about him not being a spot up shooter?

:confused:
 
sound familiar to this: cant post a positive thread to save a life.....

the griz are a cursed franchise since they left vancouver...bank it.
 
Public Defender said:
Hmm... there is a third type of player. Guys that live near the basket and take the ball to the hole from near the hole. The Blazers have an excellent guy in that department, if he can just get a little confidence going.

Not to mention, I would say the Blazers have at least three guys who fit the description of "slasher" types: Brandon Roy, as well as Travis Outlaw, and Rudy Fernandez. Does the offense need to be mixed up, or do these other guys need to be given better opportunities to slash, rather than spot up? No doubt. But don't for a second say that the Blazers only have one slashing player. (Batum has some slashing skills, as well, and so may Martell Webster when he returns...)
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I agree this team is loaded with slashers.

But slashers need passing PG's like Sergio to get them the ball in the right spot.
 
hope im wrong about bayless but hes not ready to play vs a team like denver. play him vs teh clippers, grizz, bobcats, thunder....hell start him vs the thunder but vs top teams he has no chance
 
MIXUM said:
Rudys game = threes, wild shots, alley oops.

cant make a pull up jumper to save his life. his defense is the risky type. steal or hes burned.
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Must be a different Rudy than the Blazer. :dunno:
 
MIXUM said:
Pritchard needs to tarde for SF that can slash and score without relying on his jumper. Also a backup PF seems to be a need as well.
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I kind of agree with the sentiment about the Backup PF....and a slashing PF though. I wouldn't trade a lot of our players though as I think they fulfill a good role on our team.

If we can trade crap + Raef for Gerald Wallace, then I'd be happy.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Bayless can be a slasher if he actually got time
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I agree with that, but it'll be a few seasons before he's ready to be a big contributor on a playoff team.

TO and Rudy are not slashers. They are jump shooters.
 
MIXUM said:
hope im wrong about bayless but hes not ready to play vs a team like denver. play him vs teh clippers, grizz, bobcats, thunder....hell start him vs the thunder but vs top teams he has no chance
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Sure he's ready...he couldn't get much worse than Sergio was tonight. Just needs to get comfortable...he screwed up in his minutes...but every screwup is a learning experience.
 
MIXUM said:
Rudys game = threes, wild shots, alley oops. cant make a pull up jumper to save his life.
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Do you actually watch games? Rudy can finger-roll with amazing accuracy, and he can use glass on running floaters better than anyone I've seen lately. Besides, the point was about "slashers" and guys that attack the rim. Fernandez does that - except when he falls in love with his three... That's his problem, and I'll agree with you there.

his defense is the risky type. steal or hes burned.
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I think Kobe would disagree with you, after having had to deal with Rudy's defense in the Olympics. Fernandez is a solid defender, though because of his youth, he does try for steals a little more than he should. He's excellent at getting deflections, keeping balls alive, and generally being active on defense. He's not a "stopper" - but he's quite good.
 
Memphis has talent, but absolutely no inside presence at all. Gay and Mayo are good, but that franchise doesn't have a winning culture at all, none of those players believe they can win. It's like becoming a Clipper, you know you're not going to win when you play for them. And I bet Gay bolts when he has the chance to be a FA.
 
alex42083 said:
Memphis has talent, but absolutely no inside presence at all. Gay and Mayo are good, but that franchise doesn't have a winning culture at all, none of those players believe they can win. It's like becoming a Clipper, you know you're not going to win when you play for them. And I bet Gay bolts when he has the chance to be a FA.
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?? I'm pretty sure Mayo thinks he can win every game he plays. Confidence is not an issue with him and he thinks he is the next Michael Jordan.
 
craigehlo said:
Man they should totally trade for a guy like Pau Gasol.
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Hey now, they got cap space where FAs will line up to go to Memphis! They got Marc Gasol who's the second coming of! .... no one. He's OK I guess. But that trade was very even because it turned LA into title contenders and Memphis is still..... uh, Memphis.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
?? I'm pretty sure Mayo thinks he can win every game he plays. Confidence is not an issue with him and he thinks he is the next Michael Jordan.
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Experience enough 25-30 win seasons and being with the Grizzlies, and that confidence will wane.. He's only 26 games into his career.
Kind of like how Mike Bibby just was stuck in a rut with them, and he escaped and became one of the most clutch players in the NBA with Sacramento.
And Shareef Abdur-Rahim... who seemingly never got out of that funk to play for a winner.
 
alex42083 said:
Hey now, they got cap space where FAs will line up to go to Memphis!
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Seriously, who do they think they can lure there anymore? They are going to have to offer some mid-level player like Trevor Ariza a MAX contract to convince them to come.
 
alex42083 said:
Experience enough 25-30 win seasons and being with the Grizzlies, and that confidence will wane.. He's only 26 games into his career.
Kind of like how Mike Bibby just was stuck in a rut with them, and he escaped and became one of the most clutch players in the NBA with Sacramento.
And Shareef Abdur-Rahim... who seemingly never got out of that funk to play for a winner.
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Mayo is completely different than Bibby and SAR. He's going to be much better than either of them and has winner written all over him. Neither of those guys had the swagger Mayo does either, or the work ethic.
 
craigehlo said:
Seriously, who do they think they can lure there anymore? They are going to have to offer some mid-level player like Trevor Ariza a MAX contract to convince them to come.
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Well, according to Chris Wallace, he said FAs will follow the money... which is true but when you've got NY, NJ, Detroit and other teams to compete with, you're getting nobody good.

I compare it to Chicago's situation awhile back where they had a ton of cap space after tanking it a few seasons. They tried to lure McGrady, Grant Hill and that FA class, but they signed somewhere else and Chicago was left with just a bunch of cap space and a really bad team.
They ended up signing Eddie Robinson and Ron Mercer to bloated contracts, and that didn't turn out too good.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Mayo is completely different than Bibby and SAR. He's going to be much better than either of them and has winner written all over him. Neither of those guys had the swagger Mayo does either, or the work ethic.
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I'll believe it when I see Mayo help them to the playoffs in the next few years. He's a hell of a player, but I have a feeling he'll bolt too when he gets the chance to play in a bigger market and a winner.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Mayo is completely different than Bibby and SAR. He's going to be much better than either of them and has winner written all over him. Neither of those guys had the swagger Mayo does either, or the work ethic.
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and he's going to bolt to a major market the first chance he gets....
 
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