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B-Roy said:
Um no. He's still not a rim protector. You can label him whatever you want but the reality is Portland needs someone that is good at guarding the basket.
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You can still have a shot blocking PF. I'm curious if Aldridge would be happy with JSmooth? I mean he would most definitely have to play center; but JSmooth would be a serious "Rim Protector"
 
magnifier661 said:
You can still have a shot blocking PF. I'm curious if Aldridge would be happy with JSmooth? I mean he would most definitely have to play center; but JSmooth would be a serious "Rim Protector"
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I think with Smith at PF and LMA at center we would have to become a serious serious running team to take advantage properly and have enough shooters to make up for the lack of an inside game.
 
Boise Blazer said:
I think with Smith at PF and LMA at center we would have to become a serious serious running team to take advantage properly and have enough shooters to make up for the lack of an inside game.
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Well the good thing is Aldridge is a good run and gun big. I don't think Lillard or CJ have a problem either. And it's pretty obvious Batum is one of our best finishers on the break. It could be really exciting!
 
RoyToy said:
The more I think about it
I'm not even sure Robinson will be better than Hickson in his career
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Robinson's a very good per-minute rebounder. He's 20th in the league. Of course, JJ's 4th. And Asik is 2nd.
 
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Just realized I hadn't posted in this thread, and I know it will be bumped up in a year and people will gloat or blame or just laugh at old opinions. I want to be laughed at too, so here's my thinking

Hell ya, I love this selection. It really sucks that it had to cut into our cap room, but getting Thomas (just cant call him TRob) is going to be a great move. He has super long arms, so even though he is shortish, he has the wingspan of a 7footer.. In fact, his wingspan is slightly better than Withey. Also, Thomas is a great athlete, Some time, coaching and actually getting to play will do him wonders. In a couple years this will be looked at as a hugely one-sided trade.
 
B-Roy said:
Um no. He's still not a rim protector. You can label him whatever you want but the reality is Portland needs someone that is good at guarding the basket.
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There have been some pretty good centers in this league who weren't rim protectors. Brad Miller, Rik Smits, Ilgauskas. Chris Bosh was the center for the current two-time champs.

Besides, Aldridge was the conference defensive player of the year on the Longhorns. He realized defense may win championships, but offense wins contracts, and so adjusted his game at the NBA to get paid. But I think he could go back to being a good defender if he just wanted it.

I think if we got an outright stud defensive guy who happened to be 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan and a hardhat rebounding mentality, he could easily start next to Aldridge.
 
mook said:
There have been some pretty good centers in this league who weren't rim protectors. Brad Miller, Rik Smits, Ilgauskas. Chris Bosh was the center for the current two-time champs.

Besides, Aldridge was the conference defensive player of the year on the Longhorns. He realized defense may win championships, but offense wins contracts, and so adjusted his game at the NBA to get paid. But I think he could go back to being a good defender if he just wanted it.

I think if we got an outright stud defensive guy who happened to be 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan and a hardhat rebounding mentality, he could easily start next to Aldridge.
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7'3" actually.
 
Robinson needs to develop that 15ft jumper. He could have a deadly face-up game with it. His first step is really quick and he's explosive and athletic as hell. It's Amare-esque. Just needs to get that jumper to keep them honest.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Robinson's a very good per-minute rebounder. He's 20th in the league. Of course, JJ's 4th. And Asik is 2nd.
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I wonder how much of Robinson's rebounding numbers were impacted by playing next to Asik and Cousins. Only so many boards to go around.

I think it's a lot easier to look like a great rebounder when Aldridge isn't taking many away from you (and you are playing for a contract).

Hickson's TRB% this last year was a whopping 20.7%, but before that was around 15%. Robinson's as a rookie and playing on two different teams was 17.1%.

Purely in terms of rebounding, if Robinson takes over all of Hickson's minutes it might not be much of a downgrade.
 
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mook said:
I wonder how much of Robinson's rebounding numbers were impacted by playing next to Asik and Cousins. Only so many boards to go around.
Hickson's TRB% this last year was a whopping 20.7%, but before that was around 15%. Robinson's as a rookie and playing on two different teams was 17.1%.
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It seems very likely that Robinson's rebounding could get even better for us. He was the best rebounder coming into the 2012 draft (it says here).

Interestingly, he wasn't a good offensive rebounder (UNlike Hickson), and he wasn't a good shotblocker, despite that wingspan, but maybe that was Withey's job.
 
HERE WE GO HOUSTON, HERE WE GO! (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)

Stupid optimism getting me all hopeful ...
 
mook said:
I wonder how much of Robinson's rebounding numbers were impacted by playing next to Asik and Cousins. Only so many boards to go around.

I think it's a lot easier to look like a great rebounder when Aldridge isn't taking many away from you (and you are playing for a contract).

Hickson's TRB% this last year was a whopping 20.7%, but before that was around 15%. Robinson's as a rookie and playing on two different teams was 17.1%.

Purely in terms of rebounding, if Robinson takes over all of Hickson's minutes it might not be much of a downgrade.
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You have to consider the offensive side of the ball here.

Thomas Robinson can really only do one thing above average, and that's dunk. After that it gets pretty shaky, and it showed in his FG% last season.

Hickson shot 56% last year and we all saw that he has a nice overall offensive game.

I want Robinson to succeed, but Idk if he'll be better than Hickson.
 
RoyToy said:
You have to consider the offensive side of the ball here.

Thomas Robinson can really only do one thing above average, and that's dunk. After that it gets pretty shaky, and it showed in his FG% last season.

Hickson shot 56% last year and we all saw that he has a nice overall offensive game.

I want Robinson to succeed, but Idk if he'll be better than Hickson.
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Robinson was a much better defender than Hickson was in college, so if nothing else that end of the floor will be better.

He also put up better per 36 numbers than Hickson did in Sacramento if that means anything?

9/10/1 vs 11/11/1
 
RoyToy said:
You have to consider the offensive side of the ball here.

Thomas Robinson can really only do one thing above average, and that's dunk. After that it gets pretty shaky, and it showed in his FG% last season.

Hickson shot 56% last year and we all saw that he has a nice overall offensive game.

I want Robinson to succeed, but Idk if he'll be better than Hickson.
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Yeah, I hear you. That's why I said "purely in terms of rebounding." He's going to be a much worse offensive player, and hopefully slightly better on defense (hopefully his inexperience isn't matched by Hickson's utter incompetence).

I think it's going to be a couple years before we really know what we have with Robinson. Hope we're more patient than Sactown and Houston.
 
RoyToy said:
The more I think about it

I'm not even sure Robinson will be better than Hickson in his career
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Free Samples at Safeway!

Sample Person: Have a piece of pie. It's home made and tastes great!

RoyToy: Pffft, I wanted cake and that piece of pie doesn't even have any ice cream on it.

Sample Person: So you don't want the piece of pie???

[RoyToy takes piece of pie and eyes worker menacingly]
 
Zybot said:
Free Samples at Safeway!

Sample Person: Have a piece of pie. It's home made and tastes great!

RoyToy: Pffft, I wanted cake and that piece of pie doesn't even have any ice cream on it.

Sample Person: So you don't want the piece of pie???

[RoyToy takes piece of pie and eyes worker menacingly]
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You forgot where he eats the pie, enjoys it but tries his best not to, even asking, "Are these organic? Doesn't taste organic." Then tells the sample person that he was right, he wanted to cake.
 
The same article says that Robinson, with KU money backing him, is trying in court to take custody of his little sister from her father, who is not Robinson's father and spent time in jail for possession.

Let the father keep his child.
 
jlprk said:
The same article says that Robinson, with KU money backing him, is trying in court to take custody of his little sister from her father, who is not Robinson's father and spent time in jail for possession.

Let the father keep his child.
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Depends on the father's current situation. I've read nothing on this, so I plead ignorance. But I've seen enough of these types of situations first-hand to understand that biology and environment are equally important. Don't send the child to an unstable home. Beyond that, a parent is more probable to gain custody than a sibling. Just my $0.02 based on experience.

If the dad is clean and responsible, there's no reason he shouldn't gain custody.
 
mook said:
There have been some pretty good centers in this league who weren't rim protectors. Brad Miller, Rik Smits, Ilgauskas. Chris Bosh was the center for the current two-time champs.

Besides, Aldridge was the conference defensive player of the year on the Longhorns. He realized defense may win championships, but offense wins contracts, and so adjusted his game at the NBA to get paid. But I think he could go back to being a good defender if he just wanted it.

I think if we got an outright stud defensive guy who happened to be 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan and a hardhat rebounding mentality, he could easily start next to Aldridge.
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Exactly zero of the bolded were asked to be primary scorers playing at center. It's not so much the offensive, end, but on defense where playing center saps energy. Hell, Bosh scored zero points in Game 7.
 
RoyToy said:
The more I think about it

I'm not even sure Robinson will be better than Hickson in his career
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You're the most colossal troll on this board.

Just yesterday it was, "I don't know how you couldn't like this deal?"
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
If the dad is clean and responsible, there's no reason he shouldn't gain custody.
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Then you don't see the money that Kansas U. backers spent on lawyers, and that Robinson now has to spend.
 
RoyToy said:
Lol at you not realizing how both statements can be true

derp
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Haha!

Yeah, Zags seems like a binary thinker.

Check this one out...

http://sportstwo.com/threads/239856-Aaron-Brooks-Vet-Minimum-3rd-PG?p=3045813&viewfull=1#post3045813

Originally Posted by MickZagger
Wait a minute. You just said the other day that we should re-sign him.

You flip and flop these days more than Republican politicians. Thats saying a lot.
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I did. Just like the Blazers should sign any other mediocre veteran PG. I don't expect a lot for the vet minimum. Maynor's fine, but it's not like him leaving is some big blow to the team.

You should really work on your reading comprehension. Saying the Blazers should maybe resign him isn't the same as saying him leaving is some huge loss.

I'd prefer Aaron Brooks, but I'm biased on that one.
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MickZagger said:
You're the most colossal troll on this board.

Just yesterday it was, "I don't know how you couldn't like this deal?"
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Yet you're the one who lacks reading comprehension, and calls out other posters for making logical posts that you can't comprehend.
 
I think me and Zags could beat up Papa and that dork RoyToy. We should all go out for a beer!


Sent from my baller ass iPad FAMS!
 
jlprk said:
Then you don't see the money that Kansas U. backers spent on lawyers, and that Robinson now has to spend.
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Then there has to be more to it. Like maybe the dad is unfit. I'd be cool with that explanation. But if he's now settled, responsible, takes care of her like a dad should, why shouldn't he have custody? That's all I'm saying. Thomas shouldn't have her just cuz he has more money.
 
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