Thoughts on Dante Exum

[cmeese47]

I really want to see this. If he turns 3 or 4 of those 8 18f jumpers into 3 pointers I'd like them a lot more. I just have flashbacks of Wallace falling in love with the three and doing nothing but chuck them up regardless if it was a good shot or not.

I think LA is smarter than that.

 

[cmeese47]

Hold on a second.

Tristan Thompson has a career FG % of 47% (48% this season as a garbage scorer, too) and 63% on FTs.

Aldridge has a career FG % of 49% (46% this season as the primary option on offense) and 79% of FTs.

Please remind me to just disregard any post cmeese47 makes w/out first fact-checking the stats he offers. I assumed that Tristan Thompson must have been a high-50% FG guy this year. Then I could see trying to make an argument about FG shooting. I was wrong to trust that cmeese47 had any idea what he was posting about in terms of actually making a serious argument.

I was referring to LA last season and his .458 FG%, not the years where he was over or near 50%. Last season LA took the most shots of his career and did so while posting his worst ever shooting percentages from the field. That version of LA needs to change.

 

[cmeese47]

Yeah, that's been what I've been saying since last summer. Cleveland would be stupid to risk losing LMA, the #1 pick of the 2014, and an average player in Tristan Thompson for the 2015 season. That's how GMs get fired.

I'm guessing that's not why you think it's a bad idea, though. Look at all the success the Cavs have had with Kyrie Irving and Anthony (or is it Andrew?) Bennett as #1 overall picks. Irving is so jazzed about it, he seems to have his agent leak that he'd rather sign the Q.O. and jet as a UFA rather than spend the next 5 years in Cleveland. The Cavs are even leaking that they may not offer Irving the max. That's a franchise LMA definitely want to play for, right?

Really we are talking about Cleveland making smart decisions come on they hired and fired Mike Brown twice. They are the reason why the NBA prohibits trading first round picks in consecutive years. They traded an unprotected first round pick (Blake Griffin) to pay a fat Baron Davis over 10 million a season. They refused to trade JJ Hickson for a healthy Amare Stoudamire. Etc.

It would not surprise me if they included Waiters and Thompson

 

[cmeese47]

I'm not saying you've promoted it at all, but you do know hoops to a level I respect. If the Blazers think Exum is going to be better than Lillard as a lead guard, yet the Cavs scouts don't see it and are afraid of losing Irving, Lillard would be the player most attractive to Cleveland, based on his contract status. It would be a major move, sure, and won't happen, but these are the bold moves that can be the difference between keeping a GM job or losing it.

If that is the case trading Lillard to Cleveland would not be as prolific as trading him to Philly for picks 3 and 10 then letting them deal MCW. We could then draft Exum and someone like Zach Lavine or Dario Saric.

 

[Mediocre Man]

So did Enes Kanter, Milan MacVan, and Livio Jean-Charles .

So did Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker and Nic Batum

It's not a perfect science, and I was simply responding to someone saying he hasn't played against anyone.

Kanter, by the way, is 21 years old and has a career PER of 15.9. Per 36 of 16/10. It's not like he's some scrub

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Really we are talking about Cleveland making smart decisions come on they hired and fired Mike Brown twice. They are the reason why the NBA prohibits trading first round picks in consecutive years. They traded an unprotected first round pick (Blake Griffin) to pay a fat Baron Davis over 10 million a season. They refused to trade JJ Hickson for a healthy Amare Stoudamire. Etc.

It would not surprise me if they included Waiters and Thompson

Do you fact check anything?

Trading picks in consecutive years was done by a Cleveland owner ages ago. It would be like holding Steve Ballmer accountable for anything Sterling did.

Amare has never been healthy.

Cleveland did not lose an unprotectected first for taking on Baron Davis's contract. They got one from the Clippers, won the lottery, and drafted Irving.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Do you fact check anything?

Trading picks in consecutive years was done by a Cleveland owner ages ago. It would be like holding Steve Ballmer accountable for anything Sterling did.

Amare has never been healthy.

Cleveland did not lose an unprotectected first for taking on Baron Davis's contract. They got one from the Clippers, won the lottery, and drafted Irving.

You can't trade picks in consecutive years. You can however make the pick and trade the rights to that player

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

You can't trade picks in consecutive years. You can however make the pick and trade the rights to that player

I understand the rule. It was created due to the old Cleveland owner being cheap. cmeese was saying that the decisions made by previous ownership groups somehow has anything to do with what they are doing now.

Not to sidetrack the conversation, but I do not think it will be long before they stop allowing teams to circumvent this provision by swapping 1st round picks like the Knicks and the Nets have done.

 

[PapaG]

So did Dirk Nowitzki, Tony Parker and Nic Batum

It's not a perfect science, and I was simply responding to someone saying he hasn't played against anyone.

Kanter, by the way, is 21 years old and has a career PER of 15.9. Per 36 of 16/10. It's not like he's some scrub

He was the #3 pick in the 2011 NBA draft, and he was highly thought of after he dominated the Hoop Summit. He doesn't even start full time for a bad Jazz team, and even with his 16 PER, he needed 22 USG to get it. The Jazz have the #3 picks from both the 2010 and 2011 NBA drafts (Derrick Favors, too), and they suck as a team and don't appear to be headed on an upswing. Relying on high draft picks is a crapshoot, and it's foolish to take a 54-win team with no starters over 30 and break it up for 19 year-old kids who may or may not pan out in 5 years.

I'll also point out that Leonard was 21 last season, has a career PER of 12 on 13 USG, and has per/36 of 11/8. He also wasn't the #3 pick in the draft who was picked ahead of players like Kawhi Leonard, Kemba Walker, and Klay Thompson. It's not like he's some scrub! Meyers also

 

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