OT Three Georgians Chase Down Unarmed Black Man, Shoot And Kill Him

[yankeesince59]

There are no quotation marks around We understand why could care less sticks in your craw:

Jesus tap dancing christ...if I was responding to you using my words, why would I use the word "We" instead of "I"?

 

[Lanny]

Jesus tap dancing christ...if I was responding to you using my words, why would I use the word "We" instead of "I"?

I don't know since you didn't reference it.
But I'm really tired of going round and round on a truly insignificant issue.
Let me sum it up by saying that I need things spelled out clearly. You wouldn't believe the number of high level meetings I was involved with at Boeing that turned into raging shouting matches over simple misunderstandings. That kind of brought home to me the importance of spelling things out very clearly. Consider it one of my hard earned faults. It's my fault, not yours. That's just the way I am.
Can we please drop it? It really isn't important to me. You're one of the last people I want to argue with about anything unless you're going to make a snide remark about my frilly shoes with the ruffles.

 

[yankeesince59]

I don't know since you didn't reference it.
But I'm really tired of going round and round on a truly insignificant issue.
Let me sum it up by saying that I need things spelled out clearly. You wouldn't believe the number of high level meetings I was involved with at Boeing that turned into raging shouting matches over simple misunderstandings. That kind of brought home to me the importance of spelling things out very clearly. Consider it one of my hard earned faults. It's my fault, not yours. That's just the way I am.
Can we please drop it? It really isn't important to me. You're one of the last people I want to argue with about anything unless you're going to make a snide remark about my frilly shoes with the ruffles.

Fine with me.

 

[H.C.]

And he was jogging where he was supposed to initially.

This all came about because myself and @Chris Craig said he veered right. I said he veered right, likely to start trying to get away as the truck stopped in front of him. Chris was saying(correct me if i'm wrong), IF he was on the right side, it would have been logical for him to veer further right to avoid danger. Not veer left into the road. No different than if on a bike on the right side... you would veer to the right to avoid danger. Which I agree with.

For example: Sidewalks have pedestrians walking both ways all the time. But no matter which direction, you are going to step away from the road to avoid danger IN the road.

That's all Chris was trying to say, but then the "Gotcha" police had to step up and use it as an insinuation that the victim was jogging on the wrong side of the road or something. So I corrected all involved and posted a screen shot clearly showing him jogging on the correct side of the road, into oncoming traffic.

If you then watch the video from there, he then starts to jog around the back, right side of the truck for, what I assume, is to get away from the danger he was becoming aware of in front of him.



The point is, some here are trying to find anything they can to try point out he was doing something wrong to justify it not being a racial motivation from the get go, in their opinion. Most disagree, and are pointing out things that validate their opinion that the victim did nothing wrong and was trying to avoid danger and it was racial from the get go. 100% certain? of course not. But lets not kid ourselves.

Common sense is common sense...if not, its senseless.

I have zero interest in READING this thread.
I read one page and shook my head.
Then went on to state it is taught you're supposed to walk/run/jog against traffic at an early age.
Where it's the opposite as a bicyclist.
But again I do not wish to read this thread.
I do, did, have, insert verb this lynching. But I don't wish to insert verb on this site.

 

[Lanny]

I have zero interest in READING this thread.
I read one page and shook my head.
Then went on to state it is taught you're supposed to walk/run/jog against traffic at an early age.
Where it's the opposite as a bicyclist.
But again I do not wish to read this thread.
I do, did, have, insert verb this lynching. But I don't wish to insert verb on this site.

I'm unclear on what you're trying to say especially the why part.

 

[Chris Craig]

Now, as it turns out, it has become known the police had the video this whole time. Yet, they did nothing.

 

[RR7]

 

[yankeesince59]

Now, as it turns out, it has become known the police had the video this whole time. Yet, they did nothing.

What I don't get is if the video was so incriminating why would they give that kind of evidence to the police?

From what I understand, the guy who actually took the video may face charges too.

 

[Chris Craig]

What I don't get is if the video was so incriminating why would they give that kind of evidence to the police?

From what I understand, the guy who actually took the video may face charges too.

He was following them, but had no part in accosting or shooting the guy and wanted to cooperate fully

 

[yankeesince59]

He was following them, but had no part in accosting or shooting the guy and wanted to cooperate fully

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-appears-Ahmaud-Arbery-minutes-killing.html

"The cell phone footage was taken by William 'Roddie' Bryan, a neighbor of the McMichaels.

Director of the GBI Vic Reynolds said Friday that Bryan could also be arrested for his part in the murder after he watched and shot the footage of the attack. "

 

[Orion Bailey]

There isn't a universal consensus in this thread yet? Hard to believe its still popping to the top of the thread list.

 

[Chris Craig]

There isn't a universal consensus in this thread yet? Hard to believe its still popping to the top of the thread list.

I am pretty sure there is a universal consensus and it is one of the few threads in OT history that have reached it. The reason it keeps popping up is because there is new news

 

[Lanny]

I think I told you guys that my father had a crew of brick layers and their helpers working for us in Atlanta that were commuting from Rome where they lived. They were as racist as racist gets.
I don't think I'd ever want to live or work in Rome. No desire to visit there, either, other than a strange and freakish curiosity.

 

[Chris Craig]

Surprise surprise

 

[THE HCP]

Didn't see that one coming at all huh?

 

[The Professional Fan]

There isn't a universal consensus in this thread yet? Hard to believe its still popping to the top of the thread list.

Precisely why I jumped in here and read every post. The date of the thread creation told me the thread was created prior to the release of the video. Amazing how the tone changed in this thread after the video was posted by mags. If there isn't a universal consensus in this thread, we'll never have one. Ever. Even if the Blazers won the 2021 championship, that thread should have more arguments than this one.

I don't know what city/county or whatever this occured, but there needs to be an investigation into their police department. Fucking sickening that it took the release of a video and public outrage to arrest these redneck racist cock suckers.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Precisely why I jumped in here and read every post. The date of the thread creation told me the thread was created prior to the release of the video. Amazing how the tone changed in this thread after the video was posted by mags. If there isn't a universal consensus in this thread, we'll never have one. Ever. Even if the Blazers won the 2021 championship, that thread should have more arguments than this one.

I don't know what city/county or whatever this occured, but there needs to be an investigation into their police department. Fucking sickening that it took the release of a video and public outrage to arrest these redneck racist cock suckers.

I would even go a step further and suggest that anyone who thinks its okay to grab guns and give chase to anyone in jogging shoes, shorts and a tshirt, to ask them why they are jogging down a public street, in ANY neighborhood, is justified, could use an exam.

 

[The Professional Fan]

I would even go a step further and suggest that anyone who thinks its okay to grab guns and give chase to anyone in jogging shoes, shorts and a tshirt, to ask them why they are jogging down a public street, in ANY neighborhood, is justified, could use an exam.

In broad daylight, with nothing in his hands. This is a lynching, period.

 

[Chris Craig]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/authoriti...ust-prior-003713242--abc-news-topstories.html

A second video was reviewed by authorities before the arrests. It was a surveillance camera video that showed Arbery walk into the home that was under construction through the garage and out the back before he continued down the road. The video shows him in the house for no more than 3 mins. He leaves without anything in his hands.

The video also shows McMichaels on the phone with 911 and then going after Arbery after retrieving his gun.

 

[Hobbesarable]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/authoriti...ust-prior-003713242--abc-news-topstories.html

A second video was reviewed by authorities before the arrests. It was a surveillance camera video that showed Arbery walk into the home that was under construction through the garage and out the back before he continued down the road. The video shows him in the house for no more than 3 mins. He leaves without anything in his hands.

The video also shows McMichaels on the phone with 911 and then going after Arbery after retrieving his gun.

Here's a quote from Arbery's father in the linked story:

Arbery's father, Marcus Arbery Sr., spoke to Atlanta ABC affiliate WSB at a rally on Saturday after seeing the newly released video.

"If he committed a crime, why don’t you call the authorities?" Marcus Arbery said. "But you came at him like you were hunting an animal."

 

[Chris Craig]

Here's a quote from Arbery's father in the linked story:

Thanks for pulling that quote out.

As I said this video was reviewed before their arrests. It doesn't in anyway vindicate the father and son. I just wanted to offer there was further news in the case.

 

[Lanny]

I would even go a step further and suggest that anyone who thinks its okay to grab guns and give chase to anyone in jogging shoes, shorts and a tshirt, to ask them why they are jogging down a public street, in ANY neighborhood, is justified, could use an exam.

I suggest a rectal exam. Not only would there be deserved discomfort involved but maybe a head could get dislodged in the process.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

BREAKING NEWS: Georgia AG asks the Justice Department to take over the investigation into Ahmaud Arbery's shooting by two white men as it's revealed recused DA said the slaying was 'justifiable homicide'

• George Barnhill, Sr, the top prosecutor of Waycross Judicial Circuit, declined to bring charges against two white men in the murder of an unarmed black jogger
• Barnhill told investigators in Glynn County, Georgia, that the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was 'justifiable homicide'
• Arbery was shot and killed while jogging in his neighborhood after he was accosted by Greg McMichael, 64, and his son, Travis McMichael, 34
• Local prosecutors declined to charge the McMichaels, stating that 'stand-your-ground' laws allowed armed citizens to arrest those suspected of a crime
• State authorities stepped in and arrested the father and son after video began circulating on social media showing the fatal shooting from February 23
• The McMichaels were arrested at their Brunswick home on Thursday and charged with murder and aggravated assault two months after the fact
• Brunswick District Attorney Jackie Johnson blocked police from arresting the two men for the murder of Arbery, 25
• 'She shut them down to protect her friend McMichael,' said Glynn County Commissioner Allen Booker
• They made their first court appearance Friday via video link from jail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...two-armed-white-men-justifiable-homicide.html

 

[SlyPokerDog]

BREAKING NEWS: Department of Justice is weighing hate crime charges in Ahmaud Arbery killing as new video emerges of unarmed black jogger, 25, inside construction site before he was shot dead by father and son vigilantes who 'thought he was a burglar'

• Ahmaud walked into the construction site in Brunswick, Georgia, looked around and then walked back out
• Later that day, he was shot dead by Travis McMichael, 34, who'd chased him with his former cop father Greg
• The pair told police they thought Ahmaud was a burglary suspect who had broken into homes near them
• The owner of the construction site said they never called police or the McMichaels, who they don't know
• They released the video to show that Ahmaud did not steal anything and say they had nothing to do with the young man's death
• Ahmaud's family says it proves that he was not burglarizing homes, as the McMichaels claimed
• Greg McMichael worked as a cop then in the district attorney's office before retiring a year ago
• The case passed between three prosecutors over three months before charges were finally brought
• They were only arrested after a cellphone video of Ahmaud's killing went viral

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ntering-construction-site-leaving-handed.html

 

[HailBlazers]

I've walked through houses being built before, its fun to check out the floor plans. In this day and age construction companies never leave items of value around when you have tweakers who will strip sites for f'ing copper. The McMichael's are inbreed idiots, hope the DOJ gets them on hate crimes.

 

[Chris Craig]

I've walked through houses being built before, its fun to check out the floor plans. In this day and age construction companies never leave items of value around when you have tweakers who will strip sites for f'ing copper. The McMichael's are inbreed idiots, hope the DOJ gets them on hate crimes.

Used to walk through houses being built when I was a teenager all the time. Never got murdered for it. Hope these assholes don't just get the book thrown at them. I hope they get their asses beat by it.

 

[Chris Craig]

BREAKING NEWS: Georgia AG asks the Justice Department to take over the investigation into Ahmaud Arbery's shooting by two white men as it's revealed recused DA said the slaying was 'justifiable homicide'

• George Barnhill, Sr, the top prosecutor of Waycross Judicial Circuit, declined to bring charges against two white men in the murder of an unarmed black jogger
• Barnhill told investigators in Glynn County, Georgia, that the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, 25, was 'justifiable homicide'
• Arbery was shot and killed while jogging in his neighborhood after he was accosted by Greg McMichael, 64, and his son, Travis McMichael, 34
• Local prosecutors declined to charge the McMichaels, stating that 'stand-your-ground' laws allowed armed citizens to arrest those suspected of a crime
• State authorities stepped in and arrested the father and son after video began circulating on social media showing the fatal shooting from February 23
• The McMichaels were arrested at their Brunswick home on Thursday and charged with murder and aggravated assault two months after the fact
• Brunswick District Attorney Jackie Johnson blocked police from arresting the two men for the murder of Arbery, 25
• 'She shut them down to protect her friend McMichael,' said Glynn County Commissioner Allen Booker
• They made their first court appearance Friday via video link from jail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...two-armed-white-men-justifiable-homicide.html

That is some corrupt shit

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Black woman shot and killed after Kentucky police entered her home as she slept, family says

A black woman was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky, home when three police officers forced their way inside, "blindly fired" and killed her, according to a lawsuit filed by the woman's family.

Breonna Taylor, an EMT worker, died on March 13 after officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department executed a search warrant at the wrong home, the suit states.

Police at the time said the officers knocked on the door several times and “announced their presence as police who were there with a search warrant.” The officers forced their way in through the door and “were immediately met by gunfire,” Lt. Ted Eidem said at a March 13 press conference.

Taylor's death gained national attention this week after the family hired attorney Ben Crump, who is also representing the family of Ahmaud Arbery, the black man in Georgia who died on Feb. 23 after being pursued and shot by two white men.

Gregory McMichael and his son Travis McMichael were arrested last week and charged with murder and aggravated assault in the Arbery case.

Crump called Taylor's death a "senseless killing."

"We stand with the family of this young woman in demanding answers from the Louisville Police Department," he said in a statement Monday on Twitter.

The attorney called out the police department for not taking responsibility and not providing "any answers regarding the facts and circumstances of how this tragedy occurred."

Crump joins Sam Aguiar and Lonita Baker in representing the family.





The lawsuit states that Taylor and her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, were asleep in the bedroom when police in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles arrived at the house around 12:30 a.m.

The officers were looking for a suspect who lived in a different part of the city and was already in police custody after he was arrested earlier.

The three officers entered Taylor's home "without knocking and without announcing themselves as police officers," the suit states.

The lawsuit says Taylor and Walker woke up and thought criminals were breaking in. Walker called 911 and, according to The Courier-Journal, police said he opened fire and shot an officer.

"The defendants then proceeded to spray gunfire into the residence with a total disregard for the value of human life," the lawsuit alleges. "Shots were blindly fired by the officers all throughout Breonna's home."

The suit states that Walker had a license to carry and kept firearms in the home for protection.

Taylor, 26, was shot eight times and died. Walker, 27, was arrested. According to jail records he's been charged with assault and attempted murder on a police officer. An attorney for Walker could not immediately be reached.

"Breonna had posed no threat to the officers and did nothing to deserve to die at their hands," the suit says, adding that she was unarmed.

"Neither of the two had any criminal history for drugs or violence," it states. No drugs were found in the home.

The gunfire from the officers struck objects in the living room, dining room, kitchen, hallway, bathroom and both bedrooms, according to the lawsuit.

"The officers failed to use any sound reasonable judgment whatsoever when firing more than 25 blind shots into multiple homes and causing the wrongful death of Breonna," according to the suit.

Taylor's mother, Tamika Palmer, filed the lawsuit in April in Jefferson Circuit Court alleging wrongful death, excessive force and gross negligence.

A spokesperson for the Louisville Metro Police Department said, "Due to an ongoing internal investigation into this situation, we are not able to comment at this time."

The officers were identified by the police department at the March 13 press conference as Jonathan Mattingly, Brett Hankison and Myles Cosgrove. All three were placed on administrative reassignment pending the outcome of an investigation.

Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer said in a statement Tuesday that he was monitoring the case and talked to the police department's chief to ensure a thorough investigation.

"As always, my priority is that the truth comes out, and for justice to follow the path of truth," he said in a statement posted on Twitter. "The Breonna Taylor case is currently under investigation. Therefore, expansive comments are not appropriate until all the facts are fully known."

 

[wizenheimer]

it's kind of reassuring to see that there is near-unanimous condemnation of this killing in this forum. I think both left and right can agree that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it's a duck. And in this case, the duck is racisim

well now, a white guy has found a way to expose that duck even further:

https://news91.me/2020/05/12/white-...xLova5-_WgGqKBhuOckz7ufwy2qmnPHyYP0wXU2JgwsBA

jogging while white is obviously safer than jogging while black, but I think we all knew that....right?

 

[Chris Craig]

Black woman shot and killed after Kentucky police entered her home as she slept, family says

A black woman was asleep in her Louisville, Kentucky, home when three police officers forced their way inside, "blindly fired" and killed her, according to a lawsuit filed by the woman's family.

Breonna Taylor, an EMT worker, died on March 13 after officers with the Louisville Metro Police Department executed a search warrant at the wrong home, the suit states.

Police at the time said the officers knocked on the door several times and “announced their presence as police who were there with a search warrant.” The officers forced their way in through the door and “were immediately met by gunfire,” Lt. Ted Eidem said at a March 13 press conference.

Taylor's death gained national attention this week after the family hired attorney Ben Crump, who is also representing the family of Ahmaud Arbery, the black man in Georgia who died on Feb. 23 after being pursued and shot by two white men.

Gregory McMichael and his son Travis McMichael were arrested last week and charged with murder and aggravated assault in the Arbery case.

Crump called Taylor's death a "senseless killing."

"We stand with the family of this young woman in demanding answers from the Louisville Police Department," he said in a statement Monday on Twitter.

The attorney called out the police department for not taking responsibility and not providing "any answers regarding the facts and circumstances of how this tragedy occurred."

Crump joins Sam Aguiar and Lonita Baker in representing the family.





The lawsuit states that Taylor and her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, were asleep in the bedroom when police in plain clothes and unmarked vehicles arrived at the house around 12:30 a.m.

The officers were looking for a suspect who lived in a different part of the city and was already in police custody after he was arrested earlier.

The three officers entered Taylor's home "without knocking and without announcing themselves as police officers," the suit states.

The lawsuit says Taylor and Walker woke up and thought criminals were breaking in. Walker called 911 and, according to The Courier-Journal, police said he opened fire and shot an officer.

"The defendants then proceeded to spray gunfire into the residence with a total disregard for the value of human life," the lawsuit alleges. "Shots were blindly fired by the officers all throughout Breonna's home."

The suit states that Walker had a license to carry and kept firearms in the home for protection.

Taylor, 26, was shot eight times and died. Walker, 27, was arrested. According to jail records he's been charged with assault and attempted murder on a police officer. An attorney for Walker could not immediately be reached.

"Breonna had posed no threat to the officers and did nothing to deserve to die at their hands," the suit says, adding that she was unarmed.

"Neither of the two had any criminal history for drugs or violence," it states. No drugs were found in the home.

The gunfire from the officers struck objects in the living room, dining room, kitchen, hallway, bathroom and both bedrooms, according to the lawsuit.

"The officers failed to use any sound reasonable judgment whatsoever when firing more than 25 blind shots into multiple homes and causing the wrongful death of Breonna," according to the suit.

Taylor's mother, Tamika Palmer, filed the lawsuit in April in Jefferson Circuit Court alleging wrongful death, excessive force and gross negligence.

A spokesperson for the Louisville Metro Police Department said, "Due to an ongoing internal investigation into this situation, we are not able to comment at this time."

The officers were identified by the police department at the March 13 press conference as Jonathan Mattingly, Brett Hankison and Myles Cosgrove. All three were placed on administrative reassignment pending the outcome of an investigation.

Louisville Mayor Greg Fischer said in a statement Tuesday that he was monitoring the case and talked to the police department's chief to ensure a thorough investigation.

"As always, my priority is that the truth comes out, and for justice to follow the path of truth," he said in a statement posted on Twitter. "The Breonna Taylor case is currently under investigation. Therefore, expansive comments are not appropriate until all the facts are fully known."

Wait, so not only did they get the wrong address, but the guy they were looking for was already in Jail, having been arrested earlier in the day? The incompetence.