OT Three Georgians Chase Down Unarmed Black Man, Shoot And Kill Him

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Was concerned they might get off with Rittenhouse getting off. Would have been really bad. It would have set a deadly precedent. We would have posses chasing black people down the street left and right.
 
Chris Craig said:
Was concerned they might get off with Rittenhouse getting off. Would have been really bad. It would have set a deadly precedent. We would have posses chasing black people down the street left and right.
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I wasn't concerned about this one in the least. There was no doubt here. These guys are racist murderers.
Plain and simple.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I wasn't concerned about this one in the least. There was no doubt here. These guys are racist murderers.
Plain and simple.
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One of the defense lawyers helped remove all but one black citizen from the prospective jurors and tried to fill the jury with "bubba's and Joe six packs." I was concerned a predominantly white jury in a southern conservative state would vote not guilty. Glad that didn't happen.
 
Chris Craig said:
One the defense lawyers helped remove all but one black citizen from the prospective jurors and tried to fill the jury with "bubba's and Joe six packs." I was concerned a predominantly white jury in a southern conservative state would vote not guilty. Glad that didn't happen.
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Yeah, I just don't know what legal grounds could have been used to get them off...

I assumed KR would get off with self defense. That case was a loser for the prosecution from the start.
 
I remember during the Port
crandc said:
Defense lawyer claimed Black preachers with bibles intimidating. White men with guns not so much.
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I remember during the Portland Riots HCP had a friend whos store downtown being protected by two white guys with rifles, so it wouldn't get burnt down or looted. If my neighborhood was being threatened by riots with burning and looting Id be protecting my home and family with a shot gun. And it would have zero to do with race. Again, I have a multi race family and we would all protect our home or business.
 
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Hoopguru said:
I remember during the Port

I remember during the Portland Riots HCP had a friends store downtown being protected by two white guys so it wouldn't get burnt down or looted. If my neighborhood was being threatened by riots with burning and looting Id be protecting my home and family with a shot gun. And it would have zero to do with race. Again, I have a multi race family and we would all protect our home or business.
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Sorry, what does this have to do with the thread or what you quoted? Honestly curious.
 
Another defense attorney referred to Arberry having dirty toenails. FFS. Even if true, lapses in personal hygiene is not capital crime.
Unlike Rittenhouse, they didn't attack protests, weren't young and photogenic, so right didn't raise $2 million for their defense.
 
crandc said:
Another defense attorney referred to Arberry having dirty toenails. FFS. Even if true, lapses in personal hygiene is not capital crime.
Unlike Rittenhouse, they didn't attack protests, weren't young and photogenic, so right didn't raise $2 million for their defense.
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Well, that's $2 million that would have been wasted. They were getting convicted no matter what the defense did.

And good riddance.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Well, that's $2 million that would have been wasted. They were getting convicted no matter what the defense did.

And good riddance.
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I don't think that's necessarily true. The first DA was going to let them go free, because she knew one of them. It was only after massive publicity that she got her just desserts.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I don't think that's necessarily true. The first DA was going to let them go free, because she knew one of them. It was only after massive publicity that she got her just desserts.

barfo
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Yeah, that's why I just don't think that was ever going to fly. One or two people mught have wanted to let their buddies off. But that's not going to slide any more.
 
Nice to see actual justice done…..despite the efforts of white people (and the media) to make it appear that Arbery brought it upon himself. The Georgia legal system in general has no shame and obviously doesn’t care how racist and stupid they look to the rest of the world. Kudos to a virtually all white jury for doing the (obviously and inescapable) right thing and making the defense look even more corrupt.
 
Chris Craig said:
An ironic part of this is, if the third guy following the McMichaels hadn't filmed it with his phone, they might have all gotten away with it. But, he filmed it and now it's life in prison.
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The recording served its intended purpose. It made them heros/martyrs with the wingnut right.
 
Orion Bailey said:
If i didn't know this country, i would say thats unbelievable. Defense attorney should be on trial too…. I mean really…
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In my experience, defense attorneys fall into 3 broad categories.

1) Sincerely believe in the importance of due process and the ideal that everyone deserves a fair trial.
2) Get a vicarious thrill from rubbing shoulders with evil.
3) Are pursuing a political agenda way beyond the actual case.

The defense lawyers in this case fell into #3. They should have just worn their Klan robes into court.
 
Chris Craig said:
An ironic part of this is, if the third guy following the McMichaels hadn't filmed it with his phone, they might have all gotten away with it. But, he filmed it and now it's life in prison.
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No might about it. Though the basic facts of the case were known to the DA, 8 weeks afterwords no one had been arrested... just maybe because the elder McMichael was friendly with the DA. But then Roddie's little home video made it's way onto the internets and the general public was appalled. In other words he felt comfortable sharing it with others who then shared it with others. No filming, no problem.

STOMP
 
Buffalo Custard said:
In my experience, defense attorneys fall into 3 broad categories.

1) Sincerely believe in the importance of due process and the ideal that everyone deserves a fair trial.
2) Get a vicarious thrill from rubbing shoulders with evil.
3) Are pursuing a political agenda way beyond the actual case.

The defense lawyers in this case fell into #3. They should have just worn their Klan robes into court.
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They couldn't argue the facts of the case & they couldn't argue the law. Their only shot was appealing to deep seeded racism that the jury might hold.

STOMP
 
Ahmaud Arbery's family celebrates outside court after his three murderers are convicted of federal hate crimes: Jury rules three white men chased and shot jogger because he was black
  • Travis and Gregory McMichael and William Roddy Bryan were convicted Tuesday of federal hate crimes
  • It is the first federal hate crime conviction in Georgia, according to attorney Ben Crump
  • It makes no difference to their sentences - the McMichaels were already serving life without parole - but it means they are convicted of killing Arbery because he was black
  • The federal hate crime conviction means the men may be able to serve their time in federal prison instead of the less comfortable state penitentiary
  • Ahmaud Arbery's family fought that possibility - saying they ought to serve time in the leas comfortable place
  • Ahmaud's mother Wanda Cooper Jones said outside court she was grateful for the conviction but horrified the men were offered a deal in January
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-murderers-CONVICTED-federal-hate-crimes.html
 
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