Throw a max contract at Roy Hibbert?

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Throwing money at Hibbert is a total waste of time that should be spent getting a player that the Blazers have a legitimate shot at signed to a contract. Also, if you're planning on letting Nic walk, then you have to think about how you're going to replace him with another player at least as good as he is who won't cost any more than what Nic will command.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I guess you could throw a max deal at Hibbert and see what happens... it's only a 3 day wait.
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I like this idea (if Blazers deem Hibbert the #1 priority) . . . throw him a front loaded max contract on the first day possible and give him 24 hours to sign or deal off table. Meanwhile you tell #2 or #3 that Blazers will offer max if Hibbert doesn't work which they should know in 24-84 hours

Indy probabaly matches, but you can find out fast and maybe it screws with the Indy slary cap. :D

That's right, a front loaded max contract . . . only in the world of the Paul Allen type owners.
 
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Why does everyone assume that Indy will match a MAX or near MAX offer made to Hibbert?

During the last game, Larry Bird was interviewed. During the interview he brought without being prompted how the attendance is 2nd lowest in the league and how it is extremely hard to KEEP a team together in a small market in the current NBA.

As soon as he said that, I thought, "why is he bringing this up? Is he getting a dig at the big money Heat or is he preparing people for loss of talent this summer?"
 
Masbee said:
Why does everyone assume that Indy will match a MAX or near MAX offer made to Hibbert?

During the last game, Larry Bird was interviewed. During the interview he brought without being prompted how the attendance is 2nd lowest in the league and how it is extremely hard to KEEP a team together in a small market in the current NBA.

As soon as he said that, I thought, "why is he bringing this up? Is he getting a dig at the big money Heat or is he preparing people for loss of talent this summer?"
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We assume because teams don't let All-Star centers with that much talent just walk away.

Hypothetically, if we end up getting the 6th and 11th picks, I would let Batum walk and draft a replacement. Throw max money at Hibbert. Then I would take the money left over and try to sign Dragic. If Batum walks we should have enough space to sign Hibbert for 14 million and Dragic to 8 or 9 million. Hell, if Beal drops to us, we could probably let Batum walk and start Babbitt.

Dragic
Beal
Babbitt
Aldridge
Hibbert

That's a pretty good team.
 
Babbitt is a specialist (like Korver) he is not a starter.

In your scenario the cap is gone with Hibbert/Dragic so I think you look at a SF in the draft at #11 (or trade up)
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Babbitt is a specialist (like Korver) he is not a starter.

In your scenario the cap is gone with Hibbert/Dragic so I think you look at a SF in the draft at #11 (or trade up)
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My point was that the other four starters would be so good that you could throw babs out there and it wouldn't matter lol

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Masbee said:
Why does everyone assume that Indy will match a MAX or near MAX offer made to Hibbert?

During the last game, Larry Bird was interviewed. During the interview he brought without being prompted how the attendance is 2nd lowest in the league and how it is extremely hard to KEEP a team together in a small market in the current NBA.

As soon as he said that, I thought, "why is he bringing this up? Is he getting a dig at the big money Heat or is he preparing people for loss of talent this summer?"
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And a front loaded big contract to boot. What is the biggest front loaded contract to date? I assume Indy would be hard pressed to match that given their current salary sutation with other players.
 
Hibbert looks pretty damn important to the pacers right now. pretty much keeping lebron from the basket by himself...
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
And a front loaded big contract to boot. What is the biggest front loaded contract to date? I assume Indy would be hard pressed to match that given their current salary sutation with other players.
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I don't think it is possible to "front load" a max contract. I believe there is a max number allowed for the first year and then a max percentage the contract amount can escalate in the following years. Perhaps if the Blazers made as much cash payable up front to Hibbert as is possible by the CBA that would make it really difficult for Indy to match. But this sounds more like a "toxic offer" than a front loaded contract though.

Hibbert is a longshot though.
 
With so few true centers he could get the max but looking at his numbers is he a max player?

12.8 PPG | 8.8 RPG | 2.0 BPG | 1.7 APG | 49 FG% | 19.3 PER

12.4 PPG | 11.8 RPG | 3.5 BPG | 1.1 APG | 52 FG% | 25.1 PER* -- Playoffs

He has played great in these playoffs but I think he should get a contract similar to Joakim Noah ($60m/5years) -- IMO this is more than a fair deal.
 
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RoyToy said:
I'll laugh if some team pays Hibbert the MAX
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He is going to end this summer making at least 13m a season. There just aren't quality C's in FA or the draft that often.
 
Rhal said:
He is going to end this summer making at least 13m a season. There just aren't quality C's in FA or the draft that often.
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And if he does get that I'll laugh at whoever gives it to him.
 
i think the main reason he isnt a max player is that he's never averaged over 30 mpg
 
At night he ribbets like a frog.
 
RoyToy said:
And if he does get that I'll laugh at whoever gives it to him.
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Productive center who can score/rebound/block shots and has a decent passing ability. He is worth probably right around Marc Gasol money, so I wouldn't mind overpaying by 2m to get him if we lose out on pretty much everyone.
 
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Agree that he should make about 14 mil based on Marc Gasol/Tyson Chandler/Noah's contracts. Hes having a great series against the Heat who have no legitimate C's to speak of. That said, he is a 25 y/o 7'2 behemoth with skill. Even 14 mil for those guys is a lot but it is invaluable to have a competitive C who can anchor a defense.

A max deal would likely be a big mistake unless he gets much, much better. I might be even more careful extending him than a guy like Gasol because a) as 3raniac mentioned hes so damn big he can't play big minutes and b) hes so damn big you never know when his body will give out. Hes already lumbering around slow as hell as a 25 y/o, imagine a few more years and maybe a couple injuries down the line. I guess any extension he got would end before he turned 30 though...
 
We shouldn't go after him. He'd automatically have a career ending knee injury.
 
Run BJM said:
Agree that he should make about 14 mil based on Marc Gasol/Tyson Chandler/Noah's contracts. Hes having a great series against the Heat who have no legitimate C's to speak of. That said, he is a 25 y/o 7'2 behemoth with skill. Even 14 mil for those guys is a lot but it is invaluable to have a competitive C who can anchor a defense.

A max deal would likely be a big mistake unless he gets much, much better. I might be even more careful extending him than a guy like Gasol because a) as 3raniac mentioned hes so damn big he can't play big minutes and b) hes so damn big you never know when his body will give out. Hes already lumbering around slow as hell as a 25 y/o, imagine a few more years and maybe a couple injuries down the line. I guess any extension he got would end before he turned 30 though...
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Gasol is heavier then Hibbert and looks like he can move even less. Hibbert hasn't put on mass muscle and doesn't seem like he would have a body that would break down easily, he has yet to have a big injury. Hibbert does seem to tire very easily, that is a big concern and his footwork is less then steller.
 
This was my point.

Hibbert is not a MAX worthy player. (if he had played an entire season like he has in the playoffs, yes, but not with the career he has had so far).

Indiana would love to keep him, but they can't have a team salary that is high. They can't afford it with little TV money, and tepid ticket sales.

So, if some team decides throw the Brinks truck at Hibbert, at what point does Indy let him go?

I don't know, but I don't think they match a MAX offer.
 
Any estimates of how much a max contract is under the new CBA for a player coming off his rookie salary? Some of you are talking about max as if its $20+million a year but I think it may be closer to the $14million some say Hibbert deserves.
 
Draco said:
Any estimates of how much a max contract is under the new CBA for a player coming off his rookie salary? Some of you are talking about max as if its $20+million a year but I think it may be closer to the $14million some say Hibbert deserves.
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I think they're limited by the fact that he's only played 4 years, so I think the max he can make is 14 or 14.5 million. I might be wrong.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think they're limited by the fact that he's only played 4 years, so I think the max he can make is 14 or 14.5 million. I might be wrong.
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That's kind of what I thought. A max contract for a young player is half of a max for someone such as Kobe, or far less then Deron Williams can earn but fans throw around the term max as if they're all the same.

Not that I necessarily think Roy is worth $14mil, but its definetely an option the team needs to consider. If that's only 2mil more than Noah makes I'd rather go in that direction then pay Nic over $8 mil per year.
 
I think Javale McGee is a more likely and more realistic option at center. He might not be as good as Hibbert, but you won't have to throw the max at him. Denver is a bit strapped on their cap situation.
 
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