Tiger Sighting

[PtldPlatypus]

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[Colonel Ronan]

Did anyone just watch his fourteen-minute speech?

 

[The Professional Fan]

Yep. SNL is going to have a field day with that one.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Yep. SNL is going to have a field day with that one.

I thought it was pretty good in all honesty.

 

[dpc]

It was a good speech. I'm pretty sure he wrote it too because it did not flow that well at all. Not taking anything away from it, that actually adds to it in my opinion.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

It was a good speech. I'm pretty sure he wrote it too because it did not flow that well at all. Not taking anything away from it, that actually adds to it in my opinion.

Yeah, he had papers in front of him.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

So what did he say?

 

[tlongII]

So what did he say?

I'm sorry.

 

[dpc]

I thought it was pretty good in all honesty.

Yeah I saw that, Iwas just saying I don't think someone else wrote it for him. I think he wrote it.

He didn't say anything shocking really. Sorry to everyone. Doesn't know when he will be back in golf. Returning to rehab tomorrow morning. I like turtles. The usual

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Yeah I saw that, Iwas just saying I don't think someone else wrote it for him. I think he wrote it.

He didn't say anything shocking really. Sorry to everyone. Doesn't know when he will be back in golf. Returning to rehab tomorrow morning. I like turtles. The usual

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I'd agree that he probably wrote this speech himself. It seemed like he meant every word by the look of his facial expressions. I almost lol'd at one point when he stared at the camera for a good ten seconds.

There is no reason for him not to return to golf in the next month or so.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I was afraid after the beginning of the speech that he would avoid mentioning what he did (he kept saying "I'm sorry for my irresponsible behavior), but then he came out at one point and said "I cheated. I had affairs. I was wrong".

Pretty heartfelt "Please, I understand that I've brought this on myself, but please don't follow around my 2.5 year old and tell everyone where her school is. talk to me, don't follow my mom around". I get where he's coming from, and it sucks that something like his stupidity can give media/paparazzi and excuse to break the veil of privacy he's tried to set up around his family.

One part I didn't quite get, b/c I'm not an adherent nor can speak intelligently about Buddhism or its tenets. But he said that he'd been a practicing Buddhist since a child, and "drifted away" from the faith, evidenced most by (and I wish I could remember it word-for-word or watch YouTube here) his statement about how he's trying to "take things of the world that make me happy and reduce my reliance on them" or something like that. In the Christian faith one of the things that gets talked about is that that reliance (some call it "Counterfeit Gods", some call it "idolizing things of the world", "Keeping up with the Joneses", etc.) is something that's so ingrained in humans that it's very hard for us to do things about it on our own and it's a constant source of stumbling for so many people. Does Buddhism have a teaching on this or an exercise to channel this urge? Or is it something that's not really talked about? If Tiger brought up this speech in my bible study group, or in front of the church or something, I'd be concerned that he's setting himself up to fail again by thinking that he can rely on himself to get over this reliance, but as I said I don't know much about Buddhism....any thoughts/insight from others who know more?

 

[Colonel Ronan]

I was afraid after the beginning of the speech that he would avoid mentioning what he did (he kept saying "I'm sorry for my irresponsible behavior), but then he came out at one point and said "I cheated. I had affairs. I was wrong".

Pretty heartfelt "Please, I understand that I've brought this on myself, but please don't follow around my 2.5 year old and tell everyone where her school is. talk to me, don't follow my mom around". I get where he's coming from, and it sucks that something like his stupidity can give media/paparazzi and excuse to break the veil of privacy he's tried to set up around his family.

One part I didn't quite get, b/c I'm not an adherent nor can speak intelligently about Buddhism or its tenets. But he said that he'd been a practicing Buddhist since a child, and "drifted away" from the faith, evidenced most by (and I wish I could remember it word-for-word or watch YouTube here) his statement about how he's trying to "take things of the world that make me happy and reduce my reliance on them" or something like that. In the Christian faith one of the things that gets talked about is that that reliance (some call it "Counterfeit Gods", some call it "idolizing things of the world", "Keeping up with the Joneses", etc.) is something that's so ingrained in humans that it's very hard for us to do things about it on our own and it's a constant source of stumbling for so many people. Does Buddhism have a teaching on this or an exercise to channel this urge? Or is it something that's not really talked about? If Tiger brought up this speech in my bible study group, or in front of the church or something, I'd be concerned that he's setting himself up to fail again by thinking that he can rely on himself to get over this reliance, but as I said I don't know much about Buddhism....any thoughts/insight from others who know more?

You make your own decisions in Buddhism. It isn't a religion, it's a way of life, as they say.

I believe he is saying that the core principles he was brought up with have given him enough mental stability to overcome this and avoid making the mistake again. Drifting away from religion is by no means giving in.

There are some people who life their lives with any religious teachings yet they have a morale compass.

I only know about Lesser Buddhism, nothing of the Buddhism he was most likely brought up with.

 

[Eastoff]

Does Buddhism have a teaching on this or an exercise to channel this urge?

here is some information on some basics

the four noble truths

1. People suffer because their minds are not at ease.
2.Suffering comes from wanting.
3.Wanting causes suffering.
4.To stop wanting, you must follow the eight fold path

and the eightfold noble path
right view
right intention
right speech
right action
right livelihood
right effort
right mindfulness
right concentration

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I prefer these type of Tiger sightings.

http://www.bikini-beach.com/Ed_Hardy_Tiger-EDW102AR-white-rhinestone-bikini-l.jpg

 

[BrianFromWA]

So to apply the last couple of posts to Tiger's life...

He said in the interview that he wanted the things that he thought came with fame and fortune (like adulterous affairs and such). This would seem to be a backup of the first three noble truths (he's not at ease b/c he wants sex with people not his wife and that want causes suffering)....so I get that. The remedy would seem to be to follow the eightfold path, but that's where the problem lies, right?

I mean, if you slip up on any parts of the path, I can see where things go wrong. Does the Buddhist way of life teach that it's possible to do things rightly/perfectly on your own? For the Christian parallel, people often bring up the Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandments as a list of impossible do's and dont's. But what the SotM was meant to do was point out your complete inadequacy to live perfectly on your own, and thus rely on Christ. Does Buddhism teach that you're not inadequate to life perfectly on your own? that you CAN follow the path perfectly, with enough willpower/moral/etc?

 

[Colonel Ronan]

I prefer these type of Tiger sightings.

She has a gut.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

She has a gut.

$100 says she's much hotter than who you lay down with every night.

I'll take that gut anyday... and twice on Sunday!

 

[dpc]

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I'd agree that he probably wrote this speech himself. It seemed like he meant every word by the look of his facial expressions. I almost lol'd at one point when he stared at the camera for a good ten seconds.

There is no reason for him not to return to golf in the next month or so.

He said he didn't know when he would start, but isn't ruling out the possibility of THIS YEAR. Therefore, there is a chance he won't even play at all this year. I don't see him coming back in a month, especially if he leaves tomorrow for rehab again where he likely isn't playing much golf. (he spent 45 days there the past month and a half).

 

[Eastoff]

So to apply the last couple of posts to Tiger's life...

He said in the interview that he wanted the things that he thought came with fame and fortune (like adulterous affairs and such). This would seem to be a backup of the first three noble truths (he's not at ease b/c he wants sex with people not his wife and that want causes suffering)....so I get that. The remedy would seem to be to follow the eightfold path, but that's where the problem lies, right?

I mean, if you slip up on any parts of the path, I can see where things go wrong. Does the Buddhist way of life teach that it's possible to do things rightly/perfectly on your own? For the Christian parallel, people often bring up the Sermon on the Mount and the Ten Commandments as a list of impossible do's and dont's. But what the SotM was meant to do was point out your complete inadequacy to live perfectly on your own, and thus rely on Christ. Does Buddhism teach that you're not inadequate to life perfectly on your own? that you CAN follow the path perfectly, with enough willpower/moral/etc?

Well it tries to teach that it is possible, some think not in the lifetime but after many incarnations. They encourage the path towards perfection, but it doesn't mean you should give up because you falter. One should stop to think about why they made the mistake and how they can avoid doing it in the future. I really haven't read this stuff in years though.