Time for a Change

[kjironman1]

I just don't think it is Terry's fault right now. I've gotten on him for not playing Nurk enough, and tonight maybe he should have rode those Refs arses more, and got thrownout. But who knows if that kinda chit really works except for Pop, and the Zen Master. I think injuries have hurt Terry just as much as anyone, and he deserves a little slack.

I do have to say i wish he would blow up every once in a while. Get T'd up and thrown out just to make a point. If nothing more than to get noticed on ESPN or something. The nice guy role gets old sometimes.

 

[kjironman1]

This summer the team has more avenues to add upgrades if they choose to do so. I will be disappointed if they don't go All-In and use the TPE. Last summer the changes mostly hinge on how good Collins becomes. If he develops into a quality starter then you can't say last summer was a failure. If he flames out and the Blazers don't build on their season this summer then I will be right there with you wanting big changes.

And they were looking for the team to continue to progress with the addition of Nurkic. Which it indeed has.

 

[calvin natt]

Hypothetically, if they blazers play say San Antonio and lose in the playoffs and they fired Stotts as many in here think they should, I would say roughly 90% of the NBA community - teams, fans, media, would think the team has lost their damn mind.

 

[CupWizier]

Whatever it takes to shock people into seeing this team's great roster imbalance. A cup and a cake. I'll start watching your posts more carefully.

You just keep thinking you are shocking people into thinking your posts have any relevancy. Glad to see you'll be watching my posts more carefully. Hopefully you are capable of learning something.

 

[riverman]

For status quoers, it's always, wait another year.

Dude....you are not up to speed on our new G league star Wade Baldwin IV......! I'd have thought you'd have been thrilled to see him own the rotation spot! As a guy in his senior years.....waiting another year is what I have....I want to win sooner...not later....Mo and Ed get back and we'll be a balanced roster again

 

[H.C.]

Many have said that at least once, but not constantly.

You don't say it constantly.
Only when the team goes through a struggle.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again.
You wonder why people dismiss you....

 

[blue9]

Dude, in my first post where I quoted you I said that having a better record than pretty much every team that made big changes proves you wrong.

Just look at our division:
OKC-Major changes
Minny-Major changes
Denver-Major changes
Utah-Major changes

Portland has a better record than all of those teams. So no I don't need further proof that your theory is dumb, it clearly is wrong.

A - That "better record" you speak of is statistically insignificant.
B - Teams with continuity are suppose to capitalize on that, and conversely teams with major changes are expected to struggle at the beginning. Unfortunately, while the other teams may have struggled early...we did NOT capitalize on our continuity.

 

[hoopsjock]

A - That "better record" you speak of is statistically insignificant.
B - Teams with continuity are suppose to capitalize on that, and conversely teams with major changes are expected to struggle at the beginning. Unfortunately, while the other teams may have struggled early...we did NOT capitalize on our continuity.

How is their record statistically insignificant?

I too was frustrated with the early season struggles. Did you predict the Blazers to finish higher than Minnesota, OKC, and Denver this year? I am still getting the hang of this site so I don't really know how to easily look up your predictions. If not it is stupid to claim that the Blazers need to make major changes to be successful when they are doing better than all those teams that did.

 

[jlprk]

You just keep thinking you are shocking people into thinking your posts have any relevancy. Glad to see you'll be watching my posts more carefully. Hopefully you are capable of learning something.

That is the most stupid thing I've ever read.

 

[jlprk]

You don't say it constantly.
Only when the team goes through a struggle.
I shouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again.
You wonder why people dismiss you....

I'll say it whenever I want. If you don't like my timing, stick it up your butt.

As for your "dismiss" mantra which you've now said 3 times, sorry, I don't walk around wondering anything.

Some little people think we're all here to fight each other personally instead of debating issues.

 

[hoopsjock]

You're saying that you wouldn't? Obviously, you should. Some current coaches had major players out this season for the whole season. You don't take that into account when assessing their performances? Why not?

Injuries can be factored in, of course, but it's not like you can go back and change what happened. Injuries are a part of the game and can alter franchises as we well know. We can play the "What If" game all day but that is all just speculation. You don't know how much better or worse the Blazers would be if other teams didn't have injuries.

For the Blazers:
2014-15 derailed by injuries in a wide open Western Conference, leading Aldridge to leave.
2007-2010 should have been the beginnings of a dynasty but our two best players were out of the league within a few years.
Late 80's/Early 90's who knows what would've happened had Sabonis not gotten hurt.
1977-78 Walton got hurt weren't the Blazers like 50-10 or something? The injury led to Walton leaving the team and never being the same.

Yes, as a Blazer fan injuries will always play a part of our history. No, I don't feel bad for other teams that have injured players.

Minnesota is a crappy franchise. Their head coach is notorious for running his star players into the ground. Butler being hurt this year doesn't explain 14 years of not making the playoffs and only getting out of the 1st round once in their entire existence.

Denver fired a good coach coming off a Coach of the Year award in 2013 and haven't been to the playoffs since. They spent a fortune on a 32 year old.

OKC acquired Melo and Paul George. Why do they get an injury pass because a defensive specialist who is in the conversation for worst offensive wing player in the league goes down?

 

[jlprk]

Injuries can be factored in, of course, but it's not like you can go back and change what happened. Injuries are a part of the game and can alter franchises as we well know. We can play the "What If" game all day but that is all just speculation. You don't know how much better or worse the Blazers would be if other teams didn't have injuries.

For the Blazers:
2014-15 derailed by injuries in a wide open Western Conference, leading Aldridge to leave.
2007-2010 should have been the beginnings of a dynasty but our two best players were out of the league within a few years.
Late 80's/Early 90's who knows what would've happened had Sabonis not gotten hurt.
1977-78 Walton got hurt weren't the Blazers like 50-10 or something? The injury led to Walton leaving the team and never being the same.

Yes, as a Blazer fan injuries will always play a part of our history. No, I don't feel bad for other teams that have injured players.

Minnesota is a crappy franchise. Their head coach is notorious for running his star players into the ground. Butler being hurt this year doesn't explain 14 years of not making the playoffs and only getting out of the 1st round once in their entire existence.

Denver fired a good coach coming off a Coach of the Year award in 2013 and haven't been to the playoffs since. They spent a fortune on a 32 year old.

OKC acquired Melo and Paul George. Why do they get an injury pass because a defensive specialist who is in the conversation for worst offensive wing player in the league goes down?

I think it's obvious that when a coach is evaluated, or compared to other coaches, the injuries of the season just ended should be considered. You don't.

But compared to a couple of assholes who are chasing my tail today whom I'll leave unnamed, you come off as making a rational argument. So I'll say, hey, you made a good post. There's merit to what you say.

 

[H.C.]

I'll say it whenever I want. If you don't like my timing, stick it up your butt.

As for your "dismiss" mantra which you've now said 3 times, sorry, I don't walk around wondering anything.

Some little people think we're all here to fight each other personally instead of debating issues.

Now that's a personal attack. Good job.

However saying you're only around when the team is struggling. Is not.
Grow some thicker skin.
You're the one who started crying about getting dismissed. By bringing it up.
I was only trying to help you understand why.

But you reverted to personal attacks. Expected.
Nice try kid.

Enjoy being on par with the worst poster on the forum.
aka someone else who only is around when the team is struggling.

 

[jlprk]

Now that's a personal attack. Good job.

However saying you're only around when the team is struggling. Is not.
Grow some thicker skin.
You're the one who started crying about getting dismissed. By bringing it up.
I was only trying to help you understand why.

But you reverted to personal attacks. Expected.
Nice try kid.

Enjoy being on par with the worst poster on the forum.
aka someone else who only is around when the team is struggling.

Looks like you and I are just beginning.

If I ever leave you for a day, don't think it's over. I'll be checking what you said about me the next day.

If I ever miss one of your attacks, my unstated answer is, If you don't like my posting timing, stick it up SlyPokerDog's butt.

 

[H.C.]

Looks like you and I are just beginning.

If I ever leave you for a day, don't think it's over. I'll be checking what you said about me the next day.

If I ever miss one of your attacks, my unstated answer is, If you don't like my posting timing, stick it up your butt.

If you don't like in your own words, 'being dismissed'. Stick it up SlyPokerDog's butt.

 

[jlprk]

If you don't like in your own words, 'being dismissed'. Stick it up your butt.

You are dismissed, kid. Go home and tell your mother that you learned a new word, dismissed. Then, repetitively criticize her for the dinner schedule making her unpopular with you.

 

[jlprk]

The thread title--Time for a Change--NOW I see why you thought this was the place to yak about the few days per week I get to the board. This timing stuff is starting to make sense. You have an allergy to others' timing. I see. Take a spoonful of pink Pepto-Bismol.

 

[blue9]

How is their record statistically insignificant?

The difference in one or two wins comes down to chance. There is essentially no difference between teams 3-8.

I too was frustrated with the early season struggles. Did you predict the Blazers to finish higher than Minnesota, OKC, and Denver this year? I am still getting the hang of this site so I don't really know how to easily look up your predictions. If not it is stupid to claim that the Blazers need to make major changes to be successful when they are doing better than all those teams that did.

I don't know if I made an actual prediction, but yes. I even said we'd be better than the Spurs, for which I got laughed at (thankfully Kawhi doesn't like playing with LA). I thought it would be a tight race between us, MIN, and OKC (thankfully for us Butler and Roberson got injured, otherwise it might not be so tight). I thought DEN was overrated as fuck (and still do).

 

[TBpup]

Anyone know how many other teams in the league lost to Memphis twice, Dallas, Atlant and Brooklyn? That is 5 losses to some of the worst teams in the NBA. Seems like a high number for a team that was almost a guaranteed #3 seed just a short time ago. They still may get it but those are games you have to win and if you let one slip, okay....but 5 times that that group?

 

[H.C.]

So funny to watch some posters come out of no where when Portland starts to struggle over a game/stretch of games.
Then it's even more funny when those same posters get offended when other posters mention this to them.
I'd say fairweather fans. But I don't even believe them to be fans of the team. Just trolls.

 

[H.C.]

Anyone know how many other teams in the league lost to Memphis twice, Dallas, Atlant and Brooklyn? That is 5 losses to some of the worst teams in the NBA. Seems like a high number for a team that was almost a guaranteed #3 seed just a short time ago. They still may get it but those are games you have to win and if you let one slip, okay....but 5 times that that group?

GSW has lost game to lesser competition this year.
Memphis, Pistons, Kings2x, Hornets.
Then if you look at teams GSW is clearly better than it gets worse.
Every team loses games to lesser comp when they shouldn't.

No I'm not comparing gsw to portland like ks would.

 

[CupWizier]

Anyone know how many other teams in the league lost to Memphis twice, Dallas, Atlant and Brooklyn? That is 5 losses to some of the worst teams in the NBA. Seems like a high number for a team that was almost a guaranteed #3 seed just a short time ago. They still may get it but those are games you have to win and if you let one slip, okay....but 5 times that that group?

OKC lost 6 times to bad teams like Phoenix, Brooklyn, Sacramento, Dallas, Knicks and Orlando.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Anyone know how many other teams in the league lost to Memphis twice, Dallas, Atlant and Brooklyn? That is 5 losses to some of the worst teams in the NBA. Seems like a high number for a team that was almost a guaranteed #3 seed just a short time ago. They still may get it but those are games you have to win and if you let one slip, okay....but 5 times that that group?

I look at this differently. I don't think they under achieved because they lost so many times to weak teams. I see it as over achieving against better teams. How many times in the past have we said that they feast on the shit teams but can't play with the good ones? Hell some said it this year. I much more prefer it this way.

I honestly believe the Blazers over achieved this year. I do not think they have as good of a roster as many of the teams they are ahead of. Thus the reason why they lost to so many bad teams. They have to play good to beat everyone. No room to coast.

I do think they have numerous players on the current roster who will get better. i.e Collins, Nurk, and Baldwin. Harkless also got better before he was injured. Those guys along with Dame, CJ, and Davis are my top 7 to return. Fill he rest of the roster with shooters at every position. (except center)

 

[TBpup]

^^^I like the idea that they are overachieving.....except that would mean they really aren't a #3 seed and are more like a #6-8 seed. If that is the case, then they really haven't improved any at all in the last couple of years which would be somewhat problematic.

 

[H.C.]

That goes back to the whole thing middle of the pack team.
If you take away GSW & Houston from the equation.
How many teams would you say. 'Yes, that team is clearly better than the other Western Conference teams.'
Spurs? With Leonard, sure. But doesn't look like he's returning anytime soon.
Utah? They're not clearly better than the rest.
Pelicans? Not a chance.
Minn? Maybe in a year or two.
Denver? Nope
OKC? Got star power, but does that make them better? Doesn't look like it.
Portland? Maybe if Nurk continues to develop.

I've said all along Portland is a middle of the pack team, battling with other middle of the pack teams.
It's amazing to me how they've been able to get the 3rd seed and have a bit of a cushion.(before dropping 3 in a row)
But that doesn't make Portland clearly better than the other teams right there as well.

 

[Orion Bailey]

My "theory"--which every other team follows--that a team needs to improve itself every year and not take 3 years off--is what all teams have always followed without calling it a "theory." Where an exception has happened, you see a team die (e.g. Sonics in their last years, Lakers for the last Kobe years, etc.).

Growth is a form of improvement!!! Sounds like your posts could use some growth.

 

[TBpup]

When Gobert is healthy, I might put them at #3. They lost Gordon Hayward but when Gobert is healthy, they have only lost 18 games this year and only 7 of the last 35 he has played in...winning at an 80% rate.

 

[stampedehero]

Who can really replace Stotts? Money doesn't grow on trees and Paul Allen would not incur contract debt unless he found a guy he wants. I don't advocate Terry be fired but his decision making this last week has not been award winning.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Who can really replace Stotts? Money doesn't grow on trees and Paul Allen would not incur contract debt unless he found a guy he wants. I don't advocate Terry be fired but his decision making this last week has not been award winning.

Poach Jay Wright from Villanova.

 

[stampedehero]

Poach Jay Wright from Villanova.

haha...Re try Calipari! Actually their personalities are a perfect match for college age minds ...........