Time for a Major Shakeup

[THE HCP]

#40Wins

 

[Lukee]

They are good with making Playoffs. But what about how terrible we look in Playoffs season after season... This organisation needs GM and coach who aren't afraid of the risk and the moment. Sadly, things won't change.

 

[H.C.]

Sadly this thread is started every losing streak by the same posters for the last 4 years.

FIFY

 

[Labinot41]

The Team is worse than last year, you can see it especially on Defense, last year the Offense was Average but we were a top 8 Defense, this year the Offense is a little bit better but the Defense is awful, you can't win Games when your opponent scores Season highs each night on FG% and 3PT%. This Team is going nowhere

 

[Mediocre Man]

FIFY

I said exactly what I w as noted, so you fixed it for yourself.

Talk to me after another early playoff exit

 

[oldmangrouch]

BTW, did anybody notice the Packers fired McCarthy - a coach who won a super bowl. They didn't even wait for the end of the season. He was no longer getting the job done and the team was playing like crap, so they decided to move on.

Teams are in the business of selling the fans hope. If things are bad today, you have to convince the fans tomorrow will be better. Packers get it. Do the Blazers?

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

BTW, did anybody notice the Packers fired McCarthy - a coach who won a super bowl. They didn't even wait for the end of the season. He was no longer getting the job done and the team was playing like crap, so they decided to move on.

Teams are in the business of selling the fans hope. If things are bad today, you have to convince the fans tomorrow will be better. Packers get it. Do the Blazers?

Heres a key difference Packers franchise player was frustrated with the coach. Blazers franchise player doesnt seem to be.

 

[illmatic99]

Heres a key difference Packers franchise player was frustrated with the coach. Blazers franchise player doesnt seem to be.

Zach Lowe reported a few weeks back that Paul wanted to let Terry go this summer but Dame and Neil vouched for him to give Terry one more year.

 

[illmatic99]

I get being calm and even keeled, but there also needs to be a sense of urgency. You just aren't seeing that.


https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...e_continues_to_falter.html#incart_river_index

 

[ripcityboy]

Zach Lowe reported a few weeks back that Paul wanted to let Terry go this summer but Dame and Neil vouched for him to give Terry one more year.

The Blazers theme is always "one more year....." As if time without change is this magic potion that solves everything.

 

[kjironman1]

Really? You want to trade Dame, our best player ever?

That is not even close to being the case. Yes dame will log a bunch of minutes. He may log enough minutes to pass most every record the Blazers have. But to say he is their best player ever is just crazy talk. Damian Lillard could be their best PG ever yes. But Best Player Ever? No Way.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

they gotta do something, or it's just another year stuck being an also ran.

You just described 44 of the team's 49 year existence.

 

[BBert]

I like CJ, but he needs to be the 2nd fiddle on a team with a tall guard, not as a compliment to a small guard.

Every team shoots mid range turnarounds over him. Length is in, in the NBA. We don't got it.

 

[BBert]

Heres a key difference Packers franchise player was frustrated with the coach. Blazers franchise player doesnt seem to be.

More than that, Blazers franchise player is coach's biggest booster.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I get being calm and even keeled, but there also needs to be a sense of urgency. You just aren't seeing that.


https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/...e_continues_to_falter.html#incart_river_index

I'm wondering what Stotts said, but cannot find his post game interview....

 

[illmatic99]

I'm wondering what Stotts said, but cannot find his post game interview....

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

thanks

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

"for whatever reason, teams are shooting threes really well against us" That was pretty much typical of the interview. I heard nothing like what Kerr and Popovich said recently after their teams had bad streaks.

 

[e_blazer]

"for whatever reason, teams are shooting threes really well against us" That was pretty much typical of the interview. I heard nothing like what Kerr and Popovich said recently after their teams had bad streaks.

Just a thought, but it may have SOMETHING to do with the fact that there usually isn't a defender within 10 feet of the guy launching the 3-point bomb.

 

[Propagandist]

I have been absent (truthfully because of my utter disgust of the bigoted trolling in the OT section; it just eviscerated my already bleak view of people, but I digress)...

1. I think this team can be good. And has been. I was optimistic and completely onboard with the fast start. But it's like hanging out with your ex, you're getting along great and there's some chemistry but at some point you're like "oh yeah, there you are." So the question is obviously how good can this group of besties be? And I think the answer is clearly: not good enough.

2. Not good enough. What does that mean to me? Not good enough to watch for this long. I'm beyond fatigued with this team. At their very very best they can beat anyone...for one game. But what team can't say that? It's the ceiling that bothers me. We seem to be up against it.

3. We are going to turn it around, I'm sure, in the spring, just when most everyone has counted the Blazers out, they are going to win 10 straight and 18 of 20 and get the 6th seed and that would be neat once. And I think that sucks.

4. Olshey had the right idea once LA walked: tank. But Dame wouldn't let us. Dame is amazing and I think Olshey has failed him. With ownership in flux, nothing is going to happen. But I expect the second the team sells, the firesale will begin. And I'm (incredibly) ready for it. At least it'll be a new storyline.

 

[e_blazer]

4. Olshey had the right idea once LA walked: tank. But Dame wouldn't let us. Dame is amazing and I think Olshey has failed him. With ownership in flux, nothing is going to happen. But I expect the second the team sells, the firesale will begin. And I'm (incredibly) ready for it. At least it'll be a new storyline.

That's certainly a possibility. I don't expect anything major to happen this season, but all bets are off if the Blazers end up with the same type of quick post season exit as the past three years. The thing is, that Olshey kind of already has a stealth rebuild in progress with the incredibly young picks he took in last year's draft. Both Trent and Simons look like they'll be solid players in a year or two. Zach and Nurk are both young guys for the front line. If the team trades both Dame and CJ for good draft picks and ending contracts, they'd potentially be in a position to pick up a couple more young studs and have a fresh start. We'd be Phoenix bad for a few years, but maybe the future would look better?

 

[illmatic99]

That's certainly a possibility. I don't expect anything major to happen this season, but all bets are off if the Blazers end up with the same type of quick post season exit as the past three years. The thing is, that Olshey kind of already has a stealth rebuild in progress with the incredibly young picks he took in last year's draft. Both Trent and Simons look like they'll be solid players in a year or two. Zach and Nurk are both young guys for the front line. If the team trades both Dame and CJ for good draft picks and ending contracts, they'd potentially be in a position to pick up a couple more young studs and have a fresh start. We'd be Phoenix bad for a few years, but maybe the future would look better?

This is some kinda spin.

 

[e_blazer]

This is some kinda spin.

Why so? I guess I bought into the NBAdraft.net grades:

Portland came away from the draft with a pair of 19 year old guards with some real upside. Anfernee Simons is a long armed combo guard with a good set of skills in place, and Gary Trent Jr., who was acquired from Sacramento in a draft day trade, is a tough as nails sharp shooter who surprised some folks at the combine in terms of showcasing his athletic ability. He'll need to work on passing and defense. Going to a team with a history of developing young guards, these two truly have a good shot at turning into solid players with the tutelage and daily competition of Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum. Two of our favorite picks in the late first/early second round deserves an A.

 

[Hoopguru]

I have been absent (truthfully because of my utter disgust of the bigoted trolling in the OT section; it just eviscerated my already bleak view of people, but I digress)...

1. I think this team can be good. And has been. I was optimistic and completely onboard with the fast start. But it's like hanging out with your ex, you're getting along great and there's some chemistry but at some point you're like "oh yeah, there you are." So the question is obviously how good can this group of besties be? And I think the answer is clearly: not good enough.

2. Not good enough. What does that mean to me? Not good enough to watch for this long. I'm beyond fatigued with this team. At their very very best they can beat anyone...for one game. But what team can't say that? It's the ceiling that bothers me. We seem to be up against it.

3. We are going to turn it around, I'm sure, in the spring, just when most everyone has counted the Blazers out, they are going to win 10 straight and 18 of 20 and get the 6th seed and that would be neat once. And I think that sucks.

4. Olshey had the right idea once LA walked: tank. But Dame wouldn't let us. Dame is amazing and I think Olshey has failed him. With ownership in flux, nothing is going to happen. But I expect the second the team sells, the firesale will begin. And I'm (incredibly) ready for it. At least it'll be a new storyline.

Hey Prop...good to see you around!

For me, this was a key year in determining if they should shake things up big time. Im not ready just yet to give it my green light, but I think its obvious at the very least a trade needs to happen.

 

[TBpup]

The Blazers theme is always "one more year....." As if time without change is this magic potion that solves everything.

Almost the definition of insanity. This team got boat raced by a #6 seed and came back with basically the same group. Not sure how Neil/Stotts thought this would be any different.

 

[julius]

Almost the definition of insanity. This team got boat raced by a #6 seed and came back with basically the same group. Not sure how Neil/Stotts thought this would be any different.

Boat raced by a team that won 1 fewer games than they did....

 

[julius]

On the plus side, at least Meyers Leonard has played himself into a tradeable player.

 

[Reep]

Almost the definition of insanity. This team got boat raced by a #6 seed and came back with basically the same group. Not sure how Neil/Stotts thought this would be any different.

To be fair their idea of playing CJ and Dame together more, and bringing in an ET-lead second unit with better shooters around him did look like it was going to work for a while. I think it is good to try something like that before you dump CJ. Unfortunately it wasn't sustainable, although not for the reasons I thought it would be (defense falling off the face of the planet).

 

[James lamphear]

I hate to say it we probably need couple years in the lottery. We got some of the frame work already in Dame Nurk Zach and our 2 rookies. In next 2 years we can get rid of 6 players in our rotation. Now your probably wonder why I haven't mentioned CJ due I think he needs to be traded for the future either players or draft picks or both. CJ to mean is on dimensional player and that on offense. I know some of you guys will think I am crazy about this. But really I think the rest of the league has figured out how to beat us due to we are right back same old offense and same old defense. The last 2 years we had big runs at the end of the year. But a old saying go you can reach in the well so many times until you come back empty.

 

[e_blazer]

I hate to say it we probably need couple years in the lottery. We got some of the frame work already in Dame Nurk Zach and our 2 rookies. In next 2 years we can get rid of 6 players in our rotation. Now your probably wonder why I haven't mentioned CJ due I think he needs to be traded for the future either players or draft picks or both. CJ to mean is on dimensional player and that on offense. I know some of you guys will think I am crazy about this. But really I think the rest of the league has figured out how to beat us due to we are right back same old offense and same old defense. The last 2 years we had big runs at the end of the year. But a old saying go you can reach in the well so many times until you come back empty.

Sorry, but I think it’s a non-starter to think the Blazers are going to go into a rebuild mode and keep Dame. It wouldn’t be fair to him to expect him to spend his prime years on a lottery team, and any team with him on it isn’t going to tank hard enough to have a likely shot at a top pick.