Time to apologize to kpee?

[GriLtCheeZ]

I'm about to turn 36, but I AM A MOTHERFUCKER!

 

[Minstrel]

Wow! He got a 2-month rental who doesn't want to be here for 2 of our most established players!

By 2030, Pritchard will have become a man. He'll have advanced to the level of trading last year's starter for a THREE-month rental.

This is his first trade not involving picks, but it still occurred only because Paul Allen's $3M was thrown in, as it is in every Pritchard trade, or no trade happens. As the Clippers said, the bribe was the only reason they picked the Blazers offer over the others.

I can see why he picked Outlaw and Blake to trade. By Pritchard standards, they're old men, and his mission in life is to clear out age for rookies. When Camby leaves in May, Pritchard can sign another rookie.

Pritchard, here is your assignment by the time you're 80 years old: Trade a real player (a starter, and not an expiring contract, or a pick, or someone who argued with the coach) for a real player. Trade value for value, without trying so hard to use gimmicks (like insurance paying the player's salary). Do it every year. And do it without bribing the other team with $3M.

Just be a normal GM who continuously makes moves to improve his team at any time of the year.

Just a tip: it's generally better writing style to put something as briefly as possible, rather than as verbosely, while communicating all of the same ideas. Here's a more succinct version of your post:

"I don't care about winning, I care about trades! Make lots of trades. Do it wildly, every single season, which no GM in the past 30 years has done! And, ideally, make your trades weaker by not involving money. We want to give up more talent in deals, not less."

 

[BrianFromWA]

It's very rare to trade "good player for good player" anymore. I read another article about that yesterday (maybe Simmons? Maybe the Trade Chat?) saying that the Jefferson-for-Deng talks were so refreshing just b/c NO ONE made "good player for good player" trades anymore. So I don't blame KP for that.

The culture of the league is such that there are lots of teams that are looking for wins, lots of teams looking for profit, and lots of teams looking to exploit the other two categories. I don't feel that our team has embraced that culture in the past, with the amount of expiring contracts we let go for nothing (not just KP's fault--we've let Shareef, RLEC, Magloire, et. al. go), and the need to hire Tom Penn to get some insight into CBA intricacies. I'm glad he's using one of Uncle Paul's advantages to make the team better. I wish it would've happened sooner, but oh well. I'm not patient anyway.

 

[ironcrotch]

I'm about to turn 36, but I AM A MOTHERFUCKER!

plz call da amabalans

 

[BenDavis503]

Well, only you wussies who talked shit about him for the last few months need to apologize.

The rest of us do not.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Mrs. Blake wants the apology, actually:

I'll try! =) it's hard when they've traded us while I'm pregnant twice! Ripped my heart out twice now! Haha. =( -Twitter

 

[Minstrel]

Mrs. Blake wants the apology, actually:

I'll try! =) it's hard when they've traded us while I'm pregnant twice! Ripped my heart out twice now! Haha. =( -Twitter

I like the "Haha" followed by a sad smiley. It's adorable.

 

[BenDavis503]

Mrs. Blake wants the apology, actually:

I'll try! =) it's hard when they've traded us while I'm pregnant twice! Ripped my heart out twice now! Haha. =( -Twitter

ahhh boo hoo....

Poor rich bitch has to move to LA with her millions of dollars. WAAAAHHHHHHHH

 

[Nate Dogg]

So HCP, what was the espn insider Hollinger grade for the blazers? Did he mention anything about KP making a gutsy move?

 

[Nate Dogg]

HCP your slacking on my question. Usually you respond ASAP and give us your paid insight.

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

lol. Why does Anderson Silva fight like a pussy, using gimmicky muay thai clinches to pummel his opponents with knees, when most MMA fighter rely on traditional punches and kicks? The guy is a total fucking douche.

Why did Shaq rely on gimmicky dunks so much all those years, when he could've taken 15 foot jump shots like most NBA players do to score. Fucking pussy.

Only pussies like KP use their inherent advantages in competition instead of lowering themselves to the playing field of the less advantaged. I sure wish our GM did that. We'd have a worse team, but KP would be a real man.

 

[LittleAlex]

So HCP, what was the espn insider Hollinger grade for the blazers? Did he mention anything about KP making a gutsy move?

It was a B and the Clippers got a B+.


I read his reason for both grades and I still have no clue why Hollinger felt the Clippers got the better end of the deal.

I wonder if the Clipper game last night changed his mind. The Clippers gave up 70 points in the paint. 70! I suspect not having Canby might have had something to do with that epic fail.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Why? They still had all-star Chris Kaman, right?!?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

So, let's review. We already realize that Pritchard and company are very good at talent evaluating. But, there's much more to being a GM than drafting. You have to be able to sign free agents and make advantageous trades as well. Let's forget for a time that many of our drafted players have been acquired through a trade because that, well, that doesn't really help the kpee's a one-trick donkey argument, and focus on the other aspects of a GM's job description.

<cough>

- Pritchard was instrumental in TRADING Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, 2008 2nd round pick to the Boston Celtics for the rights to Randy Foye, Dan Dickau, and Center Raef LaFrentz; then TRADING Randy Foye to Minnesota Timberwolves for rights to Brandon Roy.

- Pritchard was on board when Portland TRADED the rights to Tyrus Thomas along with Viktor Khyrapa to Chicago for the rights to LaMarcus Aldridge and a conditional second round pick in the 2007 NBA Draft.

- Pritchard was solely the big cheese when Portland drafted the rights to Brandon Rush and TRADED those rights along with Jarrett Jack, Josh McRoberts, and cash considerations to Indiana for the rights to Jerryd Bayless and Ike Diogu.

- Pritchard also acquired Rudy Fernandez and James Jones for cash from the Suns after completing a complicated TRADE with the Knicks, which in the end, resulted in cap space and, in turn, Andre Miller.

- Pritchard acquired the rights to Batum from Houston after TRADING the draft rights to Darrell Arthur and Joey Dorsey.

- Pritchard TRADED Sergio Rodriguez and a second rounder for the rights to Jeff Pendergraph.

- Pritchard TRADED #24 in the last draft for #22 and selected Victor Claver

- Pritchard TRADED a second rounder and cash to Philadelphia for Petteri Koponen

</cough>

As for free agency, it was KP who flew to Prz's hometown to recruit him to re-sign as a Blazer. That went well for us, right? He signed both Outlaw and Blake as free agents. They posted career best numbers for us, integral in Portland's uprising, and were used to acquire Camby. Good so far. He signed Juwan Howard. Hmm, okely dokely. Oh, and after making a strong push for Hedo, and trying to pry David Lee and Paul Milsap from their teams, he did sign Andre Miller, who has played better point-guard ball than we have had in forever.

So, it must be that he just can't deal players in months other than June, right? Oh, what? He traded Outlaw, Blake, and cash for Marcus Camby.

He can draft. He can sign. He can trade.

Well, I suppose you'll have to fall back on the old "but he could've drafted this guy, could've signed this guy, and/or could've traded for this guy" argument.

Whatever.

 

[oldguy]

You just have to LOVE how one "good job KP " supposedly makes up for pissing, crying and moaning for a freak'n year...and being wrong about everything he said. What a sooper fan!

Go Blazers

 

[barfo]

I'm about to turn 36, but I AM A MOTHERFUCKER!

And how old is Mom, then?

barfo

 

[Ed O]

You just have to LOVE how one "good job KP " supposedly makes up for pissing, crying and moaning for a freak'n year...and being wrong about everything he said. What a sooper fan!

Go Blazers

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

Ed O.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

Ed O.

I notice you're the only mod/person of forum authority that tells people what they should be posting. If they cross a line or break a rule warn them or ban them otherwise just let people express themselves how they want.

(How's that for spreading it around? )

 

[oldguy]

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

Ed O.

I'm with SPD, here Ed. If I'm breaking the rules, ban me. I'm ok with that, if that's what you think is appropriate.

The fact is that MANY here think MIXUM should be banned, but all we hear from you is that he can post what he wants to within the rules, quite calling him a troll, ect. I think I post within the rules, yet here you are telling what I can post.

Imo, MIXUM sucks the fun out of this board. If I want to suck the fun out of his constant trolling, and I'm not breaking the rules wtf is the problem?

MIXUM is flat out wrong on the vast majority of his rants. Why the hell shouldn't he be called out for it?

Go Blazers

 

[Minstrel]

Imo, MIXUM sucks the fun out of this board. If I want to suck the fun out of his constant trolling, and I'm not breaking the rules wtf is the problem?

I don't think anyone is saying you're breaking the rules or that you can't post these things. I think Ed was just making a request.

But if you really believe he's a troll, why on Earth do you think you're "sucking the fun" out of his trolling? Trolls want attention...that is their entire raison d'etre. That not only includes negative attention, they actually prefer negative attention.

So, if you believe he's a troll, you're choosing to encourage him.

But it's up to you, of course, if you wish to do that.

 

[STOMP]

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

geez, are you saying we should attack the post not the poster??? What a novel idea. Instead of thread after thread filled with petty personal sniping this could steer the conversations towards actual basketball talk. While this would serve the interest of those of us who like to talk Blazer hoops, unfortunately it's probable that some here just want to fight with strangers they'll never meet

Anyhoo, thanks for the great suggestion, hopefully it takes hold

STOMP

 

[oldguy]

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

Ed O.

In the time I had before work, I didn't get to respond as I would have liked.

First, isn't this the exact kind of thing that mods always tell posters to do by PM? What made you decide forgo that advice and call me out on the forum?

Second, if you are going to make a case that you were just asking nicely for me to back off, there are lots of ways to say what you did without using the term bitching. Same with inviting me to spread the bitching around, and saying you're a good target. If you were the one saying stupid, disrespectful and inflamatory shit every day, I would have been calling you on it too. Seems like you are just spoiling for fight to protect the poster I bitch about.

Anyway, if the poster in question is to continue saying the shit he has in the past, I'll reserve the right to discuss just how stupid what he writes is when he's wrong. If I cross the line, I'll live with the consequences. I'm sure you'll let me know.

Go Blazers

 

[oldguy]

I don't think anyone is saying you're breaking the rules or that you can't post these things. I think Ed was just making a request.

As I noted above, there are lots of ways to make a request that doesn't come off as a threat/challenge to fight, the most obvious being to do it by PM.

But if you really believe he's a troll, why on Earth do you think you're "sucking the fun" out of his trolling? Trolls want attention...that is their entire raison d'etre. That not only includes negative attention, they actually prefer negative attention.

So, if you believe he's a troll, you're choosing to encourage him.

But it's up to you, of course, if you wish to do that.

I'm not so sure that he really enjoys my attention that much. He tends to disappear when he is called on the nonsense he writes. What you say may have merit though, and I'll give it some thought.

Go Blazers

 

[noknobs]

I think it'd be cool if you stopped bitching about other posters. Especially just about one poster. (At least spread it around... I'm a good target! )

Is that possible? Please?

Ed O.

I think it would be cool if you'd quit acting like *edited* all the time. But I know that's not possible. Everyone knows who the idiots are, and for you to constantly protect the idiots while calling out intelligent posters, especially for such a non-inflammatory remark, is a fucking joke. Get your shit together or quit pretending to be a moderator.

 

[Ed O]

First, isn't this the exact kind of thing that mods always tell posters to do by PM? What made you decide forgo that advice and call me out on the forum?

Because you posted approximately five posts attacking MIXUM in the span of a couple of days. And because I wanted to let you (and others) know that while it's not worth editing or suspending or whatever, I'd prefer that everyone keep it civil and discuss posts, rather than posters.

Second, if you are going to make a case that you were just asking nicely for me to back off, there are lots of ways to say what you did without using the term bitching. Same with inviting me to spread the bitching around, and saying you're a good target. If you were the one saying stupid, disrespectful and inflamatory shit every day, I would have been calling you on it too. Seems like you are just spoiling for fight to protect the poster I bitch about.

I'm not spoiling for a fight about anyone.

But you have been bitching.

You've been posting non-basketball-related posts, goading him into trying to defend himself or take umbrage with what you're saying. If I remember correctly you posted back-to-back in one thread, just to get in additional shots at him.

Say what you will about MIXUM, but at least he posts about basketball... which is the reason the vast majority of us are here.

Anyway, if the poster in question is to continue saying the shit he has in the past, I'll reserve the right to discuss just how stupid what he writes is when he's wrong. If I cross the line, I'll live with the consequences. I'm sure you'll let me know.

Cool.

Ed O.

 

[oldguy]

Because you posted approximately five posts attacking MIXUM in the span of a couple of days. And because I wanted to let you (and others) know that while it's not worth editing or suspending or whatever, I'd prefer that everyone keep it civil and discuss posts, rather than posters.

So, you decided to make an example of me, instead of following your own advice about PMs. As you say, Cool.

I'm not spoiling for a fight about anyone.

But you have been bitching.

So your intent was for me to bitch at you and you would just take it? That's not the Ed O that we all know and love.

I never said that I was or was not bitching. I was saying that saying that is not how you ask nicely. No biggie anyway, consider it what you will.

You've been posting non-basketball-related posts, goading him into trying to defend himself or take umbrage with what you're saying. If I remember correctly you posted back-to-back in one thread, just to get in additional shots at him.

Let me ask again. Why shouldn't he be called out when his mindless bs is proved wrong? Maybe you can be more specific about the posts you are talking about so I learn to be a better poster. The shotgun approach doesn't help much.

Say what you will about MIXUM, but at least he posts about basketball... which is the reason the vast majority of us are here.

He posts nearly 100% negative bs, and is nearly always proven wrong. Why shouldn't I be allowed to discuss his posts after time has shown how silly he is?

Cool.

Ed O.

Whatever.

Go Blazers

 

[oldguy]

geez, are you saying we should attack the post not the poster??? What a novel idea. Instead of thread after thread filled with petty personal sniping this could steer the conversations towards actual basketball talk. While this would serve the interest of those of us who like to talk Blazer hoops, unfortunately it's probable that some here just want to fight with strangers they'll never meet

Anyhoo, thanks for the great suggestion, hopefully it takes hold

STOMP

You are just a ray of sunshine today, STOMP. You always know how to say just the right thing.

Before you go getting all self righteous, how about a stroll down memory lane?

facts shmacts, MIXUM wants his precious downward spiral

stop being so logical you... grrrrrr

STOMP

Seems like you might just be attacking the poster instead of the post, wouldn't you say?

thats the Freak Out spirit we're gunning for... good start

The night the Seattle Trailblazers hit the floor for the first time, I can honestly foresee a giant chasm opening up and pulling the greater Portland area down to the depths of hell!!!

you could say that most of our poster's lives are dependent on Brandon's hammy

STOMP

Just talking ball?

yeah if only I weres a smart like hasoos. Then my tunnel wouldn t brain my failng.

STOMP

I could see where hasoos might have felt attacked here, even if he didn't give a shit that you did.

you seem to be off your rocker angry about something you know little about other then injuries suffered to Blazers in this rough game. Not sure why you are upset or why you've made this so personal in your posts about me and not the subject I was discussing. The line I quoted from you in the previous post was an accusation you pulled out your ass.

I just gotta say, STOMP, this seems like attacking this poster too.

Did you even read my post or are you upset that I'm not typing in all caps and equipped with tar and feathers?

STOMP

Not to beat a dead horse, but just say'n.

There are plenty of additional examples if you'd like to see them.

Mr. kettle, you are black. Signed Mr. Pot.

Feel free to keep taking your cheap ass shots from up on that high horse.


Go Blazers

 

[Ed O]

Let me ask again. Why shouldn't he be called out when his mindless bs is proved wrong? Maybe you can be more specific about the posts you are talking about so I learn to be a better poster. The shotgun approach doesn't help much.

Since Sunday you'd made 26 posts on this board before I made my comment. Over half of them were aimed negatively at MIXUM.

Do you really need specifics why that might be something that I might ask you do stop?

He posts nearly 100% negative bs, and is nearly always proven wrong. Why shouldn't I be allowed to discuss his posts after time has shown how silly he is?

Sure you can. But over 50% of your posts? I'm not even saying you CAN'T do it. Just consider not. That's all I'm asking.

Ed O.