Time to bench Yi and Simmons?

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Bench Yi and Simmons?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 67.6%

  • No

    Votes: 12 32.4%
  • Total voters
    37
Claud

Claud

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Simple Yes or No answer will suffice.
IMO, this should be our starting line-up:
PG Harris
SG CDR
SF Carter
PF Anderson
C Lopez


I put RA and CDR as starters because I believe it will have a possitive impact on their game and also boost their confidence. Much like Lopez when he was inserted into the starting line-up.

Your thoughts?
 
No, Yi needs to play more especially in the critical minutes of the 4th. The nets need to tank the season and use this year as a developmental year for Yi. They will get another great draft pick and who know maybe Yi will learn how to play defense.

You see net fans we need to think more like the Yi fans. Its not about the team its all about Yi! All we need to do is lower the bar a bit, well make that quite a bit...Lower, lower, no still lower..... lets go Yi!!!!!!

oh yeah, go Yi!!!!!
 
Right lets stuff in two rookies who aren't playing very well to begin with. In anderson's case he has been given the same amount of time on the floor at the 4 spot as Yi and he is playing against weaker opponents and is not playing much better than Yi. CDR is an unknown so who knows.
 
The people that voted "No" explain yourselves please. IMO, Yi has been given the chance and has failed... doesn't Ryan deserve the same treatment?
 
Claud said:
The people that voted "No" explain yourselves please. IMO, Yi has been given the chance and has failed... doesn't Ryan deserve the same treatment?
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I thought i did...
 
farouq710 said:
Right lets stuff in two rookies who aren't playing very well to begin with. In anderson's case he has been given the same amount of time on the floor at the 4 spot as Yi and he is playing against weaker opponents and is not playing much better than Yi. CDR is an unknown so who knows.
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I get what you are saying but the fact that he IS the starter my boost his confidence and better his game when it comes to RA. And CDR is a slasher who has been injured for most of the season, but we ARE a rebuilding team and what better way to develop a baller such as CDR by inserting him into the starting line-up?

This team has been so inconsistent with Simmons and Yi that I would not care if this team played inconsistently with all of our rooks playing big minutes. After all, we are a young rebuilding team.. so why not give it a try?
 
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Claud said:
The people that voted "No" explain yourselves please. IMO, Yi has been given the chance and has failed... doesn't Ryan deserve the same treatment?
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It's not like Ryan's been glued to the bench. Ryan's shot has been off and the only thing he does better than Yi at this point is agressiveness on offense such as driving. His defense is just as bad and he's playing against second unit players. CDR hasn't been given enough time to really evaluate anything, he's way behind on everything since he's been out.
 
Claud said:
I get what you are saying but the fact that he IS the starter my boost his confidence and better his game when it comes to RA. And CDR is a slasher who has been injured for most of the season, but we ARE a rebuilding team and what better way to develop a baller such as CDR by inserting him into the startin line-up?
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Yea we're rebulding but we're also in the playoff hunt. Vince and Devin are the slashers and everyone else needs to hit open shots consistently, that's how our offense is built. I don't see CDR being valuable in the starting lineup since his range is so limited. He's better in my opinion as a slasher off the bench where no one except for dooling slashes. also CDR shouldn't just get handed the starting position. He's been out for so long while everyone else has been putting the time in, it wouldn't send a good message to ryan, boone, swat, swift or anyone else.
 
Also its not like we've had a 6 game losing streak. what Frank has been doing has been working so far and until we hit that demoralizing losing streak, I expect the lineup to stay the same. It's time to make changes when your record goes south like the knicks or raptors at the moment. we weren't expected to even be close to .500 at this point.
 
farouq710 said:
It's not like Ryan's been glued to the bench. Ryan's shot has been off and the only thing he does better than Yi at this point is agressiveness on offense such as driving. His defense is just as bad and he's playing against second unit players. CDR hasn't been given enough time to really evaluate anything, he's way behind on everything since he's been out.
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I know they've been given the same minutes (Yi and RA) But Yi has been the starter for the entire season and has been very inconsistent. IMO it's time to start Anderson to see how he acts and plays as a starter and Yi off the bench. At least RA plays much better D than Yi(Which is not saying much) and hustles way more. Yi seems to be in a funk and maybe he can regain some form by dominating bench players from the opposite teams.
 
farouq710 said:
Also its not like we've had a 6 game losing streak. what Frank has been doing has been working so far and until we hit that demoralizing losing streak, I expect the lineup to stay the same. It's time to make changes when your record goes south like the knicks or raptors at the moment. we weren't expected to even be close to .500 at this point.
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But if we are in a playoff hunt like you say, why not give a try to a line-up that will player better, smarter defense overall? After all, Defense is what will get you to the next level.
 
Claud said:
But if we are in a playoff hunt like you say, why not give a try to a line-up that will player better, smarter defense overall? After all, Defense is what will get you to the next level.
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touche, but in my opinion RA's defense doesn't warrant him being a starter over Yi. He makes similar dumb plays, the only thing I see RA do better is that he gives up less and ones. It's not like he boxes out a lot better than Yi or grabs more rebounds either. I don't see Ryan making a much bigger impact even if he gets more confidence being a starter. He'll be confident that first night and if he struggles that game or for a few games then what?

I see your point in mixing it up but teams mix it up when they start to really suck and we don't really suck yet.
 
I just hope the Nets stop playing zone defense, every team can find their wide open shooters beyong the arc.
 
farouq710 said:
touche, but in my opinion RA's defense doesn't warrant him being a starter over Yi. He makes similar dumb plays, the only thing I see RA do better is that he gives up less and ones. It's not like he boxes out a lot better than Yi or grabs more rebounds either. I don't see Ryan making a much bigger impact even if he gets more confidence being a starter. He'll be confident that first night and if he struggles that game or for a few games then what?

I see your point in mixing it up but teams mix it up when they start to really suck and we don't really suck yet.
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I just want to see how Ryan plays as a starter. Yi's been given the chance and has failed. It might suit Ryan better sort of like how it worked out for Brook Lopez. Lopez was very dissapointing before making a splash as a starter. I'm kinda hoping either RA or CDR (Hopefully both) have the same impact B Lo did.
 
I would start swift over both anderson and yi.

Boone is fine as backup center.

Anderson should come off the bench b4 yi though.

Simmons doesnt need to play at all.
 
You know which bench Yi and Simmons might look good on?

The Warriors bench.

How intrigued do you think Don Nelson would be in acquiring Yi?
 
Leave Yi in the starting line up but replace Simmons with Najera.
They can stretch the floor, Najera can pick up the big man assignment with tough D, as well as be the motivator and communicator the Nets desperately need.
 
I'm not really a Yi fan, but I'm really starting to feel sorry for him. How much would it damage his career if he was voted onto the All-Star team, yet couldn't even stay in his team's starting lineup? I know there has been alot of flack on Yi and the All-star voting....but I'm not try to target just him...he's just the most obvious one to point out.

Iverson, in my eyes should make way for Stucky so he can get playing time. while AI can be instant offense off the bench...that might benifit his team more.

But sorry for getting off point. Both should be benched....Yi is just too inconsistent and doesn't play "D"
 
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Astral said:
Leave Yi in the starting line up but replace Simmons with Najera.
They can stretch the floor, Najera can pick up the big man assignment with tough D, as well as be the motivator and communicator the Nets desperately need.
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yeah that would work well... let Yi guard the other team's small forward. Give me some of what you're smoking plz!
 
bench that other man but keep YI! ryan andy can not shoot and can not do nething else yi shoots and gets boards with basket points!!!
 
Claud said:
I just want to see how Ryan plays as a starter. Yi's been given the chance and has failed. It might suit Ryan better sort of like how it worked out for Brook Lopez. Lopez was very dissapointing before making a splash as a starter. I'm kinda hoping either RA or CDR (Hopefully both) have the same impact B Lo did.
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Agreed, 50%. Yes on RA, no on CDR.

I'm in the "start RA camp" and the Brook Lopez argument is a very valid one. I just like Anderson's presence and hustle on the floor. He has a nose for the ball, rebounds pretty consistently. He can shoot long range but is also willing to put it on floor, or run the back cuts or find the back cutter. His awareness on the court is better than Yi's right now. I feel he'll learn and progress, where I think Yi has not been able to apply much of what he should have been learning. Both will be defensive liabilities for awhile, but RA will find ways to help the team in other ways.

CDR did not show much with the minutes he got tonight, but I think Vince and Devin just didn't trust him enough.

I still don't understand why Najara is not getting minutes. Sure, early on, he lost his touch with the 3. But in his meager minutes, he defended, rebounded and put the ball on the floor and had a few nice touch shots. He has a hustle mentality, something we really need right now. Not sure why he doesn't make the rotation either instead of Yi or Simmons or Hassell.

HE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY DEFENSE!!!!!!!

I'm happy with Hayes, but Najara should be the next forward off the bench.
 
Himuki said:
bench that other man but keep YI! ryan andy can not shoot and can not do nething else yi shoots and gets boards with basket points!!!
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Yi in the first half, Anderson off the bench, Najera in the second half. Works for me.
 
ly_yng said:
Yi in the first half, Anderson off the bench, Najera in the second half. Works for me.
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You know what, that's not a bad idea. If Yi is a non-factor to start the game then just use Najera in the 2nd half and Yi's night is done one quarter earlier. Wouldn't mind trying it.
 
I voted No for its not a real upgrade to replace YI with RA who really hasn't been playin that well but he does hustle remains a constant aggressor which something i rather have coming off the bench. For any Game that anyone can RA had a breakout i can almost match that with the same amount with YI, believe it or not he actually had some good games but its his fault for losing, its his fault that he played less than 20 mins and doesnt see the floor while the others remain unliable for any defensive shortcomes or offensive woes...

as for simmons, moving him out and essentially moving CDR, that will be removing a sure spot shooter in favor of an untested two guard who hasn't merrit much consideration for playing time either....

i rather we Bench Coach Frank... can we do that instead???
 
I say yes, bench the fucking yi, and let him play the backup c, and finally you will see who will be the best center in the nets.
 
ebc said:
I say yes, bench the fucking yi, and let him play the backup c, and finally you will see who will be the best center in the nets.
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Since when is Yi a center?


What happened to Najera? Is he out of rotation? I feel like I'm out of the loop.
 
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