"To lose two points like that, it is a disgrace.'' - Ray Allen

[BlayZa]

Blazers' power-play goal latest sign of frazzled referees

PORTLAND -- This might have been the worst official decision I have ever seen at a major sporting event.

I have seen criminal verdicts made by judges of boxing, more than once I've heard of an extra down awarded accidentally to a college football team, and baseball umpires have infuriated me more often than I can remember.

But a new threshold was established here Tuesday when the Portland Trail Blazers accidentally put six men on the court against the Boston Celtics. The sixth man scored a basket. The referees acknowledged that he should not have been allowed on the floor. And then they permitted his basket to stand.

In other words, the officials rewarded a team for the most brazen form of cheating.

"I thought that was a disgrace,'' said Celtics All-Star guard Ray Allen. "I've never experienced anything like that since I've been in the NBA. To lose two points like that, it is a disgrace.''



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/12/31/thomsen.referees/

didnt see it elsewhere

 

[Cake]

I guess it's good we beat them by 5 then.

Whiners.

 

[JE]

Whiners.

Are you implying that the NBA saying 'oh well' to a team having 6 players on the court is fair? It is a disgrace.


I hope every team starts doing that, to be honest. Expose Stern for being an even bigger idiot.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I was listening to Celtic fans argue that because of this 1 point swing, they lost the game. But they didn't respond about Gregs travel, Rondo's push of then 3 pointer, Pierce's travel then foul and 2 FTs, or anything like that. Its only selective if it goes FOR Boston.

Figures... Its gotta be something someone else did that would cause them to lose to the Blazers without Roy. LOL!

Edit - or when Sergio fouled that guy and they gave him 2 FTs... oh man... horrible game.

 

[JE]

I was listening to Celtic fans argue that because of this 1 point swing, they lost the game. But they didn't respond about Gregs travel, Rondo's push of then 3 pointer, Pierce's travel then foul and 2 FTs, or anything like that. Its only selective if it goes FOR Boston.

Figures... Its gotta be something someone else did that would cause them to lose to the Blazers without Roy. LOL!

Edit - or when Sergio fouled that guy and they gave him 2 FTs... oh man... horrible game.

When did I say anything about the game? I stated how it was bullshit that the NBA doesn't even have a rule punishing a team for having an extra player on the court. I mean, really?

 

[MrJayremmie]

When did I say anything about the game? I stated how it was bullshit that the NBA doesn't even have a rule punishing a team for having an extra player on the court. I mean, really?

I wasn't talking about you, as this is the first time i've read your post since the game.

I also agree it is stupid that the basket counted. The refs should have caught it when 6 players went out there. After they didn't catch it, and the basket was good, and THEN they realized... sadly, I don't think there is much they can do about it other than the Tech. and Boston ball.

Edited... mispelled a word.

 

[JE]

I just hope we see a mass outbreak of 6 men on the court incidents in the near future.

 

[julius]

I just hope we see a mass outbreak of 6 men on the court incidents in the near future.

I bet some coach (George Karl comes to mind) will try that against Portland.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I just hope we see a mass outbreak of 6 men on the court incidents in the near future.

It is a dumb rule, but the refs did say that if they had caught it...(I have no idea how they didn't, but I didn't notice either) before the basket they would have stopped play and awarded a FT to Boston. So any coach wanting to try that needs to know that more than likely they will lose a point.


It was a 1 point swing. Get over it. Oden didn't travel, Pierce took 4 steps, Garnett elbows someone every time down the floor and doesn't get called.

IT WAS 1 POINT

 

[JE]

It was a 1 point swing. Get over it. Oden didn't travel, Pierce took 4 steps, Garnett elbows someone every time down the floor and doesn't get called.

IT WAS 1 POINT

I'll assume that's directed at Ray Allen and not me, considering I have yet to voice any foul play about the game's actual outcome.

 

[Blazerfan22]

seriously there is alot more stuff for Blazers fans to complain about in this game then the one play Portland did get away with which still got the Celtics a FT and ball. The way I looked at this game the Celtics had a 6th guy on the court the whole game and they were wearing stripes.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I'll assume that's directed at Ray Allen and not me, considering I have yet to voice any foul play about the game's actual outcome.

Directed at the 100's of Celtic fans on the internet and Celtic players that keep bitching about it. It was a bad call, but 1 point. The Celtics get more calls, or non calls as it were than any other team.


So no, it wasn't directed at you.

 

[blue32]

I think they need to get over it. The refs were terrible on both sides of the coin. To be perfectly honest, if they're the world champs, they shouldn't have put them into a position where a 1 point swing would turn the tide....

Point is, we out played them regardless of the refs sucking for both teams..

 

[Public Defender]

I think JE's point is that the refs had a pretty clear violation and basically rewarded the team for it. The other calls - Pierce's travel in the paint is the most obvious that I can remember - are all very quick, in the heat of the game, judgment calls. The Blazers' six-men-on-the-court was an infraction of a different order.

Even so, since it really only cost the Celtics two points at most - and probably less than that, considering I think the refs had a few "make-up moments" after that - I don't believe it determined the outcome of the game (plus, didn't it happen in like the 3rd quarter?).

But the bigger question is, will the Blazers announcer now have to start saying "You're our SEVENTH man, so get on your feet!"

 

[BatumKaboom]

Cry about it Boston fan. You got owned by Nates slick coaching! Way to go Nate!

 

[Pinwheel1]

Pierce's travel then foul and 2 FTs, or anything like that. Its only selective if it goes FOR Boston.

That was the first thing that came to my mind. Pierce blatantly took three steps in the key, made the basket and the free throw. That was a huge swing in the game. As always there are several of those scenarios every game. And they keep bitching about one point?

 

[JE]

Cry about it Boston fan. You got owned by Nates slick coaching! Way to go Nate!

Right...

 

[MAS RipCity]

Not to mention, Bayless was called for steps to begin the 4th when he scored a layup and he was no where near traveling. The 1 pt swing did NOTHING! Can we get a re-quote from Ray..to lose ONE POINT like that, it is a disgrace!"..HAHAHAHAHAHA
Karmas a mother!

 

[SheedSoNasty]

I think that that specific rule is absolutely stupid. I don't know why in the world we were allowed to keep those two points when it was an obvious violation of the rule. I was really surprised to see those two points stand. Either way, I'm glad we won.

 

[JE]

Not to mention, Bayless was called for steps to begin the 4th when he scored a layup and he was no where near traveling. The 1 pt swing did NOTHING! Can we get a re-quote from Ray..to lose ONE POINT like that, it is a disgrace!"..HAHAHAHAHAHA
Karmas a mother!

Well, who else lost I.Q. points reading this?

 

[Ed O]

How big of a "swing" it was is debatable.

Option 1: Blazers get called for a T before the basket. Boston gets a free throw. Portland gets the ball back.
Option 2: Blazers score a basket. Boston gets a free throw and the ball.

Obviously option 2 is what happened, but Portland might have scored after getting the ball back in option 1, so there might not have been any "swing".

It's interesting that the refs didn't catch it, but it's not as big of a deal as Ray Ray makes it out to be.

Ed O.

 

[RoyToy]

There were worse calls made in the game, sadly. Pierce walking down the lane and the refs not calling travel, and then giving him a FT on top of it was a disgrace.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Well, who else lost I.Q. points reading this?

How are those sour grapes tasting bud?

 

[barfo]

But the bigger question is, will the Blazers announcer now have to start saying "You're our SEVENTH man, so get on your feet!"

He should do that next game. That would be great.

barfo

 

[JE]

How big of a "swing" it was is debatable.

Option 1: Blazers get called for a T before the basket. Boston gets a free throw. Portland gets the ball back.
Option 2: Blazers score a basket. Boston gets a free throw and the ball.

Obviously option 2 is what happened, but Portland might have scored after getting the ball back in option 1, so there might not have been any "swing".

It's interesting that the refs didn't catch it, but it's not as big of a deal as Ray Ray makes it out to be.

Ed O.

TBH, the Celtics would have lost either way. Once they let the Blazers back in from the early 1st quarter lead, it was in serious jeopardy.

 

[44Thrilla]

I can only imagine the thread(s) that would be made in this forum if it was the other way around.

 

[JE]

How are those sour grapes tasting bud?

Sour grapes? None thanks. I'll take my 28-5 record and sit pretty.


The Celtics and their fans have much more to concern themselves with than being stunned by the Portland kiddies. Once your team actually matters within the grand scheme of the NBA, then we'll talk about those sour grapes.

 

[JE]

I can only imagine the thread(s) that would be made in this forum if it was the other way around.

Ha. Tell me the fuck about it, Thrilla.

 

[Ed O]

I can only imagine the thread(s) that would be made in this forum if it was the other way around.

Some people would freak out. I think many of us would post things very similar to what we've done... I know my post would be pretty much identical.

Ed O.

 

[Bob Dobalina]

That was an interesting article, particularly this part:

"What I do know is that the rule in this case is irrelevant."

and this:

"I believe there are some officials who would have come to their senses and made the right call, regardless of how the particular rule may or may not be written."

This theme of the rules being irrelevant was throughout this article. If they made the correct call according to the rules, then the call is correct, right? It seems to me that the argument should be for a rule change, not blasting the refs for making a call with the rules in mind. Of course they missed the initial call (like everyone else on the court, watching from the stands and on tv), but they shouldn't make up for it by ignoring the rules. It's a dumb rule in my opinion. Change it.