To those who say Sharpe hasn't improved

[illmatic99]

I can't see your signature on any device because I set my preferences to not show signatures. Makes my forum experience so much cleaner.

Amazing to me that anyone thinks they can accurately judge whether a 19/20 year-old is/will be "smart" enough to be a great player. The descriptors used in that quote really smack of...(hmm, how to say this tactfully)...chromatic preconception.

I turn off both sigs and avatars lol.

Too much clutter

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I was curious so I goggled 'chromatic preconception'. These were the top results:


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I can't decide whether to dive deeper or run away...

Yeah, that seems like a search to avoid.

 

[Idog1976]

I can't see your signature on any device because I set my preferences to not show signatures. Makes my forum experience so much cleaner.

Amazing to me that anyone thinks they can accurately judge whether a 19/20 year-old is/will be "smart" enough to be a great player. The descriptors used in that quote really smack of...(hmm, how to say this tactfully)...chromatic preconception.

No kidding. Also, how can he have peaked when he's obviously better than he was? He also hasn't been given the reigns like he had those last 10 games where he looked like a budding superstar. It's crystal clear to me that Sharpe actually does well when he is under pressure and has the responsibility to win. He doesn't do well without pressure as you can see from Summer League and Pre-Season. In Pre-Season though you could see he had cleaned up his handle significantly (still lots of room/need to grow), and his passing had clearly reached another level or two. Once Sharpe can reliably dribble in traffic, he will be an utterly unstoppable triple threat. He has deep, Lillard-lite range, he can pull up, he can drive and finish through contact and multiple defenders and his passing looks like it will eventually be elite, already INSANELY advanced for a 20 year old. His defensive instincts in regards to steals is also clearly better. I mean he just looks way better!

In case everyone who asked somehow can't see the embedded quote above BB said: "I consider Simons and Sharpe to be the same kind of players. Flashy, talented, explosive—but not smart enough or disciplined enough to be great all-around players. I think Sharpe is going to be a bust. He’s probably already hit his ceiling." That to me is an absolutely wild statement and again at least one or two other commenters mentioned similar in Game Threads. They didn't seem to be trolling either, but rather were knee jerk reacting to turnovers or missed shots.

 

[Hoopguru]

To me it's obvious that Rim Shaedy needs the ball in his hands more. I think he and Simons are both 2 guards that create with the ball. Billups probably wants Shae come off the bench for Simons as he's still young and earning his way. Im sure he will be an important part of the offense going forward this year. I would consider trading Simons for a legit young small forward and allow Shae to earn the two spot.

 

[Quatro44]

So you think Sharp should up his rape game?

Oh he will rape a lot and the mistress on the receiving end name is going to be Ms. Hoop Net. Rip city bout to get the NC-17 rating

 

[Propagandist]

I turn off both sigs and avatars lol.

Too much clutter

My avatar fits me perfectly. You’re missing out.

 

[blazerfan11]

No kidding. Also, how can he have peaked when he's obviously better than he was? He also hasn't been given the reigns like he had those last 10 games where he looked like a budding superstar. It's crystal clear to me that Sharpe actually does well when he is under pressure and has the responsibility to win. He doesn't do well without pressure as you can see from Summer League and Pre-Season. In Pre-Season though you could see he had cleaned up his handle significantly (still lots of room/need to grow), and his passing had clearly reached another level or two. Once Sharpe can reliably dribble in traffic, he will be an utterly unstoppable triple threat. He has deep, Lillard-lite range, he can pull up, he can drive and finish through contact and multiple defenders and his passing looks like it will eventually be elite, already INSANELY advanced for a 20 year old. His defensive instincts in regards to steals is also clearly better. I mean he just looks way better!

In case everyone who asked somehow can't see the embedded quote above BB said: "I consider Simons and Sharpe to be the same kind of players. Flashy, talented, explosive—but not smart enough or disciplined enough to be great all-around players. I think Sharpe is going to be a bust. He’s probably already hit his ceiling." That to me is an absolutely wild statement and again at least one or two other commenters mentioned similar in Game Threads. They didn't seem to be trolling either, but rather were knee jerk reacting to turnovers or missed shots.

I hope the coach understands Sharpe elevates to the role that he, the coach, gives him. To me this is the biggest priority for Billups. It was apparent many times last season, the best example was the end of the game in Minnesota.

(cued up to the last few possessions of the game.)

 

[Idog1976]

I hope the coach understands Sharpe elevates to the role that he, the coach, gives him. To me this is the biggest priority for Billups. It was apparent many times last season, the best example was the end of the game in Minnesota.

(cued up to the last few possessions of the game.)

That's why I don't worry about Sharpe in Summer League or Pre-Season. He elevates his game under pressure, just like Dame. I'm not saying he is that clutch, but pressure makes Sharpe focus. That's why he needs big minutes.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

So a lot of us are bitching and moaning about Sharpe so far, mainly because his shooting is in the toilet. If you were in his ear, what would you tell him?

I would say: watch film of Michael Jordan. Not just for the ridiculous dunks, which Shaedon can do, but for the midrange jumpshots that were his bread and butter. Jordan was never a good three point shooter (except for that one game) and, like Shae, his shot was flat, but he could get the shot off on anyone, and if Sharpe could do that, he could get away with a less than stellar handle and stop getting stripped so much in traffic.

 

[Cugel]

according to nba.com he has the best defensive rating of any blazer.

 

[riverman]

Sharpe has really improved on defense and rebounding...he hasn't improved his 3 pt shot or his turnover rate from what I see.

 

[blazerkor]

So a lot of us are bitching and moaning about Sharpe so far, mainly because his shooting is in the toilet. If you were in his ear, what would you tell him?

I would say: watch film of Michael Jordan. Not just for the ridiculous dunks, which Shaedon can do, but for the midrange jumpshots that were his bread and butter. Jordan was never a good three point shooter (except for that one game) and, like Shae, his shot was flat, but he could get the shot off on anyone, and if Sharpe could do that, he could get away with a less than stellar handle and stop getting stripped so much in traffic.

I don't think that's bad advice but I would encourage Shaedon to watch his fellow Canadian SGA's first couple of break through years... not last season but the previous two seasons. in 2022-23 SGA shot less than 3 three pointers a game, 2023-24 he shot less than 4 per game and he still scored 30+ppg both seasons. Shaedon should be around 3 threes a game this season and attack the basket relentlessly like SGA did those seasons.

Shaedon is absolutely elite at scoring in the paint as a guard. The great news is that he is worlds better on defense this season when compared to last season.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Is the team asking him to not shoot the mid-range? It seems less prevalent this year despite his efficiency in that area. I remember the team asked Jerami to cut back on those last year. Big credit to him on his defense and rebounding. Massive shifts. If he can clean up his shot diet and cut back on the stupid 3s, he would be really really good.

 

[wizenheimer]

according to nba.com he has the best defensive rating of any blazer.

I'm posting those with a caution....stats like those need a 40 or 50 game sample size, not a 9 game sample

 

[wizenheimer]

Sharpe's 4 year career:





it's ridiculous that's he's shooting 2.1 more three's per 100-possessions this season than last season considering he's shooting under 25%. This is chucking at it's worst. At this point, I'm convinced this is a coaching issue. The staff should not allow him to keep wasting possessions on what is by far his least efficient shot

it's not just Sharpe either. So far, Sharpe-Camara-Clingan have combined to gun up 16.7 three's a game and are shooting at a 27.5% clip. WTF is Clingan doing tossing up 3 three's a game? And why the fuck is his 3PA Rate over 40%??? it shouldn't be over 15%

none of these guys have established over an actual number of seasons that they are good enough shooters from three to deserve the grace of allowing them to shoot their way out of slumps. Well, Camara maybe, but there needs to be a leash. But not Sharpe and Clingan

 

[Cugel]

Off topic but wtf has Toumani been doing?

 

[MrDraftGuy]

I don't think that's bad advice but I would encourage Shaedon to watch his fellow Canadian SGA's first couple of break through years... not last season but the previous two seasons. in 2022-23 SGA shot less than 3 three pointers a game, 2023-24 he shot less than 4 per game and he still scored 30+ppg both seasons. Shaedon should be around 3 threes a game this season and attack the basket relentlessly like SGA did those seasons.

Shaedon is absolutely elite at scoring in the paint as a guard. The great news is that he is worlds better on defense this season when compared to last season.

Yes, that's the way I view it, too. Sharpe was also around 47% from mid-range last season, which is historically good and on par with some of the best years of Lavine, Derozan, Dirk, Lamarcus, Jordan.

SGA was also 47% from mid-range when he was 21 years old, as well.

Aside from driving it in like SGA, I don't see why Sharpe shouldn't just play off the mid-range first. If anything, I think it works to develop a sense of how much power and lift you should put into your jumpshot that you can, hypothetically, work to gauge your three ball with.

 

[dviss1]

For me it comes to shot selection. He simply has POOR shot selection and coach needs to reign that shit in.

He simply isn't a good enough shooter to spam step back 3s all game. GO. TO. THE. BUCKET.

It's soft...

 

[dviss1]

Off topic but wtf has Toumani been doing?

Also taking BAD shots.

 

[HailBlazers]

Seems to have listened to us. Taking more mid range shots tonight.

 

[HailBlazers]

Seems to have listened to us. Taking more mid range shots tonight.

Shades of Kobe.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yes, that's the way I view it, too. Sharpe was also around 47% from mid-range last season, which is historically good and on par with some of the best years of Lavine, Derozan, Dirk, Lamarcus, Jordan.

SGA was also 47% from mid-range when he was 21 years old, as well.

Aside from driving it in like SGA, I don't see why Sharpe shouldn't just play off the mid-range first. If anything, I think it works to develop a sense of how much power and lift you should put into your jumpshot that you can, hypothetically, work to gauge your three ball with.

Definitely getting going from inside and mid-range can help you start hitting your three as well.

 

[julius]

Someone else might have posted this, but I thought this was kind of relevant to this thread.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Sharpe's 4 year career:

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it's ridiculous that's he's shooting 2.1 more three's per 100-possessions this season than last season considering he's shooting under 25%. This is chucking at it's worst. At this point, I'm convinced this is a coaching issue. The staff should not allow him to keep wasting possessions on what is by far his least efficient shot

it's not just Sharpe either. So far, Sharpe-Camara-Clingan have combined to gun up 16.7 three's a game and are shooting at a 27.5% clip. WTF is Clingan doing tossing up 3 three's a game? And why the fuck is his 3PA Rate over 40%??? it shouldn't be over 15%

none of these guys have established over an actual number of seasons that they are good enough shooters from three to deserve the grace of allowing them to shoot their way out of slumps. Well, Camara maybe, but there needs to be a leash. But not Sharpe and Clingan

Of course they need to shoot these threes regardless of who they are that’s our new offense it doesn’t work if you don’t. Plus this is development year be foolish of us to think it’s not, so shoot away gain confidence.

Sharpe needs that 3 point shot to open up his drives and make him 3 level scorer, Clingan and Tou need 3 point shot so they aren’t a liability on offense. They have good form the shots will eventually start to fall

People were panicking about Deni last year and even Sharpe this year and now you’re seeing the benefits of letting guys shoot themselves out of slumps. Key is patience and understand in the end it’s going to make us better

 

[1 Eye Jack]

Someone else might have posted this, but I thought this was kind of relevant to this thread.

I was wondering why his minutes were so limited.

 

[RR7]

There was a discussion on 1080 yesterday about how often calf issues recently have been leading to Achilles tears, which makes me happy they're being cautious with his minutes, also scares me quite a bit.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

There was a discussion on 1080 yesterday about how often calf issues recently have been leading to Achilles tears, which makes me happy they're being cautious with his minutes, also scares me quite a bit.

My conspiracy theory on this is it’s related to over stretching or new shoe designs. Here’s numbers from chat gpt

• A study covering ruptures from 1990 to 2023 found 45 NBA players sustained Achilles ruptures in that 33-year span — which works out to an average of about 1.36 ruptures per season.
• In the 2024-25 season (or the most recent 12-month span), there were 7 to 8 confirmed ruptures.
• Prior to this, it was rare for a season to have more than 4 Achilles ruptures in the NBA

 

[wizenheimer]

Of course they need to shoot these threes regardless of who they are that’s our new offense it doesn’t work if you don’t. Plus this is development year be foolish of us to think it’s not, so shoot away gain confidence.

Sharpe needs that 3 point shot to open up his drives and make him 3 level scorer, Clingan and Tou need 3 point shot so they aren’t a liability on offense. They have good form the shots will eventually start to fall

People were panicking about Deni last year and even Sharpe this year and now you’re seeing the benefits of letting guys shoot themselves out of slumps. Key is patience and understand in the end it’s going to make us better

I don't buy it

I'm not saying he needs to abandon the three point shot entirely. But those attempts should come on catch & shoot and on spot-up opportunities. He shouldn't be wasting dribble-drives on step back three's. I'd like to know what his conversion rate on those shots is but I'd imagine it's under 10%

as for needing to shoot three's to open up his dribble-drive game: that's a theory that does not withstand scrutiny. Teams are already baiting Sharpe into chucking three's. The threat of Sharpe's game behind the arc isn't opening up anything. Opponents are already sagging off Sharpe because his 3 point shooting is no threat. Even with all that, over the last 3 games Sharpe has shot 28-35 on two's. He's been extremely effective without the threat of the 3 opening the floor for him

it's like saying that DeMar DeRozan needed to shoot three's to open up his game. But his career 3PA rate is 10.9% and hes a 6-time all-star. SGA doesn't need three's to open up his inside game; his 3PA rate is 22.2%. Sharpe's is over 40%

right now, if you credit 80% of Sharpe's FT's to shooting fouls, Sharpe is averaging 0.82 points/three-attempt and 1.42 points/two-attempt. Significant differentials like that will be scouted by opponents, and no team is going to focus on his three's when his two's are so effective. Now, if he drops his 3PA rate to around 30% and starts converting at a 35-37% range over a 20 game stretch that will all change. I wouldn't bank on Sharpe shooting that well though

 

[THE HCP]

Seems to have listened to us. Taking more mid range shots tonight.

Yes I overheard him talking about looking for ways to tweak his game and he mentioned S2.

 

[THE HCP]

My conspiracy theory on this is it’s related to over stretching or new shoe designs. Here’s numbers from chat gpt

• A study covering ruptures from 1990 to 2023 found 45 NBA players sustained Achilles ruptures in that 33-year span — which works out to an average of about 1.36 ruptures per season.
• In the 2024-25 season (or the most recent 12-month span), there were 7 to 8 confirmed ruptures.
• Prior to this, it was rare for a season to have more than 4 Achilles ruptures in the NBA

I do know all the guys wear now are low top sneakers. No more high tops at all.