Today is a pretty big day ...season changing... franchise changing type day?

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Natebishop3 said:
If we have to lose a star to early retirement, I'd rather it be a shooting guard. It's easiest position to replace by far (see - Wes Matthews vs Memphis Grizzlies).
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That implies we have plenty of stars to lose and it's just a matter of picking a position. Stars are hard to replace, regardless of the position. Portland had only one major star (with the hope of a second if Oden ever stays healthy) and they just lost him, potentially forever. That he played shooting guard doesn't make it any easier to replace him as a star.
 
Minstrel said:
That implies we have plenty of stars to lose and it's just a matter of picking a position. Stars are hard to replace, regardless of the position. Portland had only one major star (with the hope of a second if Oden ever stays healthy) and they just lost him, potentially forever. That he played shooting guard doesn't make it any easier to replace him as a star.
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Oden a star, albeit a much less shiny one. Aldridge is really more like a comet (we only see him once every 100 years). Regardless, losing a scoring shooting guard is much easier to replace than a center or a power forward, or even a small forward who has the physical attributes of Batum. As much as I love Roy, there's usually one or two shooting guards in every draft that can score the ball.
 
Weav said:
I know a young woman who claims to know Roy's wife, or people who know Roy's wife, and she told me they are casually considering retirement.
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Sounds like an urban legend, but it's entirely possible. Roy must know that he will never be the same player again, and that's got to really burn him. It's hard to go from a burgeoning superstar to a second-fiddle kind of player.

Frankly, I'm calling bravo sierra on the whole story . . .
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Huh?
 
Shooter said:
Sounds like an urban legend, but it's entirely possible. Roy must know that he will never be the same player again, and that's got to really burn him. It's hard to go from a burgeoning superstar to a second-fiddle kind of player.


Huh?
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Bravo Sierra, or Bull Shit

Alpha Michael Foxtrot, or Adios Mother Fucker......Don't you watch tv or movies?
 
Shooter said:
Sounds like an urban legend, but it's entirely possible. Roy must know that he will never be the same player again, and that's got to really burn him. It's hard to go from a burgeoning superstar to a second-fiddle kind of player.


Huh?
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
 
Draco said:
I tore my ACL and it hurt like fucking hell. I was on the floor cursing in pain, my knee swole up twice the size and I couldn't walk on it. Roy tweaked his knee, which could have caused some damage, but he most defeinetely did not tear his ACL.
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If I remember correctly, Jamal Lewis barely limped off of the practice field when he tore his ACL--the initial prognosis was a bruise--and I don't think he's unique.

I find it unlikely Roy tore his ACL, but the absence of crippling pain doesn't indicate he did not.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
If I remember correctly, Jamal Lewis barely limped off of the practice field when he tore his ACL--the initial prognosis was a bruise--and I don't think he's unique.

I find it unlikely Roy tore his ACL, but the absence of crippling pain doesn't indicate he did not.
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People have large swelling in the knee as well, which Roy does not.

I'd love for Roy to have a torn ACL, because that is usually a very succesful surgery and should greatly improve an athletes performance.

Sadly there just isn't a fix for not having a meniscus.
 
I heard Canzano stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
Its seems like Canzano's answer to everything is to trade Miller. When Roy was a projected All-star JC said the two couldn’t exist, now the team may be without Roy or have a severely diminished version and JC still says the answer is to trade Miller?

Lets see, that Miller guy is an above average starting PG on a reasonable salary that the team would benefit from this and next season.... maybe we could just keep him?

An expiring contract is only going to benefit another team if they have an overpaid player. So Canzano wants Cho to find a player who is much better than Andre but so overpaid his current team wants to cut him.... How is Anna able to meet this fools expectations?
 
Oregonian management think they own the team. They want players who are malleable and will play tennis with Quick so he can plumb them for information and find whom to criticize in print to score points with their hater readers. This means they prefer a roster full of young naive players. They hate players like Sheed or Miller who know the game they are playing.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Oden a star, albeit a much less shiny one. Aldridge is really more like a comet (we only see him once every 100 years).
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Oden's a star if he stays healthy and out of foul trouble. I have optimism, but it is far from a done deal. Aldridge is not a star. He's a very good player, but he'd need to take a significant step forward to become a star.

Regardless, losing a scoring shooting guard is much easier to replace than a center or a power forward, or even a small forward who has the physical attributes of Batum. As much as I love Roy, there's usually one or two shooting guards in every draft that can score the ball.
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Still not with you on this. By that logic, there's usually one or two point guards in every draft who can pass the ball, or one or two centers in the draft who can rebound the ball, etc. Wings are plentiful, but star wings are not. This is similar, to me, to the debate about what positions you need stars at to win titles. When you look at championship teams, it's not the positions that matter...it's the stars. The Bulls won six titles with two star wings. Jordan and Pippen were better than Roy, but what mattered was the talent, not the positions. You need that elite talent, and that is hard to find no matter what position it occupies.

Sure, the Blazers can find a guy to play shooting guard who will score points. He just won't have the impact of a Brandon Roy. The Cavs lost a wing this past off-season...it's easy to find wings. It's just hard to find elite talents like James. To a much lesser extent (than LeBron James), but still a very significant extent, it's hard to find elite talents like Roy. I really don't think his position makes the blow to the franchise any smaller.
 
Draco said:
Its seems like Canzano's answer to everything is to trade Miller. When Roy was a projected All-star JC said the two couldn’t exist, now the team may be without Roy or have a severely diminished version and JC still says the answer is to trade Miller?

Lets see, that Miller guy is an above average starting PG on a reasonable salary that the team would benefit from this and next season.... maybe we could just keep him?

An expiring contract is only going to benefit another team if they have an overpaid player. So Canzano wants Cho to find a player who is much better than Andre but so overpaid his current team wants to cut him.... How is Anna able to meet this fools expectations?
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I think the logic is that Miller is a great asset. Both productive (very productive) and an expiring contract (if the acquiring team wants to use him that way). And as good as Miller is, he's 35, which means not a whole lot left in the tank.

So is Canzano being a jerk by suggesting that Cho use an asset before it loses its value? It's a reasonable idea assuming that Roy is semi-permanently done ... and even if he isn't completely washed up, if he could somehow trade for a guy in his prime that plays the same position at roughly equal the same level (like Devin Harris for instance) then I would call that a good use of resources with an eye to the long term future of this team.
 
Nikolokolus said:
I think the logic is that Miller is a great asset. Both productive (very productive) and an expiring contract (if the acquiring team wants to use him that way). And as good as Miller is, he's 35, which means not a whole lot left in the tank.

So is Canzano being a jerk by suggesting that Cho use an asset before it loses its value? It's a reasonable idea assuming that Roy is semi-permanently done ... and even if he isn't completely washed up, if he could somehow trade for a guy in his prime that plays the same position at roughly equal the same level (like Devin Harris for instance) then I would call that a good use of resources with an eye to the long term future of this team.
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For a change I pretty much agree with what he said, he was honest about our options and we do really have to evaluate our trading chips and future needs based upon Roy's outcome and Oden later on as well. It could be an interesting trade deadline this year.
 
Nothing out yet. And all of twitter is quiet.

I'm scared.
 
Canzano is a joke. You can see he almost never quotes the players and staff anymore. Most people don't walk to talk to this douchebag.
 
DeanMoriarty said:
Canzano is a joke. You can see he almost never quotes the players and staff anymore. Most people don't walk to talk to this douchebag.
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He's never really had an in with any players or staff. He's a columnist.
 
DeanMoriarty said:
Canzano is a joke. You can see he almost never quotes the players and staff anymore. Most people don't walk to talk to this douchebag.
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They don't ever talk to that assface. He's knows nothing.
 
I disagree. But Canzano is NEVER at games. The players don't ever talk to him, he has no more inside info then anybody on here.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Nothing out yet. And all of twitter is quiet.

I'm scared.
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In the distance, a twig snaps.

No, that was Camby's leg.

Stay low, keep quiet. We may not hear from Sgt. Roy for months.

barfo
 
blazedanugz said:
the anticipation is killing me. do they really not know yet damn it
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The idea that there is going to be some grand announcement hours after having a study -- like their announcing the birth of this third child or something -- is a little over the top.

It may be days or even weeks before we hear anything definitive. My guess is that for now, no news is somewhat good news or at the very least it's just that, "no news."

Chill out people
 
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