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LayneStaley said:
So question for all the cap nerds. Exactly how much better of a spot would we be in right now without signing GP2?
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Hard capping massively limits what we can do. You can't go above the hard cap for any reason, so it makes it hard to send out lopsided trades because you can't replace the players that you sent out.
 
No matter what we at least need to add some size. Whether that’s a borderline all star or just a starter/bench player. I think Hart/combination of players should get us a borderline starting forward.

I’m in minority I’m ok with doing very little. Just need to add some size but unless we get an star I’m not interested in trading Simons or Sharpe.
 
LayneStaley said:
So question for all the cap nerds. Exactly how much better of a spot would we be in right now without signing GP2?
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Not sure it actually makes a difference.

It appears that management has an internal threshold to stay out of the tax... not that I blame them at all.

The Hard Cap is ~$6M above the tax line. But since Portland's internal budget is less than the hard cap - the hard cap is irrelevant.
 
The Kyrie trade was kind of new. He demanded a trade.....boom it gone done.
But none of the other rumored teams have pulled the trigger. Do we really have to wait until the day before the deadline?
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Not sure it actually makes a difference.

It appears that management has an internal threshold to stay out of the tax... not that I blame them at all.

The Hard Cap is ~$6M above the tax line. But since Portland's internal budget is less than the hard cap - the hard cap is irrelevant.
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so in theory, we could use the Exception to just bring someone like Vando back?
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Not sure it actually makes a difference.

It appears that management has an internal threshold to stay out of the tax... not that I blame them at all.

The Hard Cap is ~$6M above the tax line. But since Portland's internal budget is less than the hard cap - the hard cap is irrelevant.
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It's not irrelevant if we're actually trying to improve the team.
 
Mavs looking for D help and are making Wood available. GP2/Winslow for Wood works money wise. Don’t really like Wood but he’s tall and an 18/8 guy.
 
RR7 said:
Broken down super generically, without going into the details and specifics, when 2 teams make a trade, and there is a difference in salaries of the two sides, it creates a traded player exception, or TPE. There's different ways they are created, but simply, it's a difference in salary. So if we make a trade where we send out 20 million dollars, and only take back 10, we have a calendar year to "spend" that extra 10 million difference in a trade.
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I'm going to ask an ignorant question too. If TPEs exist, why do salaries seemingly always have to match (or be within a %)? I'm sure there's a threshold of how big a TPE is, but still.
 
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Strenuus said:
I'm going to ask an ignorant question too. If TPEs exist, why do salaries seemingly always have to match (or be within a %)? I'm sure there's a threshold of how big a TPE is, but still.
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Teams under the cap need not abide by the matching rules if they can simply absorb salaries into their books.
 
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LayneStaley said:
Mavs looking for D help and are making Wood available. GP2/Winslow for Wood works money wise. Don’t really like Wood but he’s tall and an 18/8 guy.
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Our best 3 defenders are probably GP2 and Hart (at Guard) and Winslow (at Forward) Only Hart will probably get major minutes. So yeah I am ok with trading Winslow (Or GP2 or both) for a long player who can shoot because then we could slide Grant to SF at times and get me the 3 guard rotation I want with Dame, Ant, and Hart.
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's not irrelevant if we're actually trying to improve the team.
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Given the range of probable outcomes, going over the tax line most likely does not pass the cost/benefit analysis for this season.
 
LayneStaley said:
Mavs looking for D help and are making Wood available. GP2/Winslow for Wood works money wise. Don’t really like Wood but he’s tall and an 18/8 guy.
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But we were told that a player who leads the NBA in rebounding AND blocks wasn't good for our team....but THIS guy is?
 
inconceivable said:
It's a relatively quiet trade deadline week for the Blazers, the calm before the storm. Brace yourselves for Kevin Durant #honktwice
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LayneStaley said:
So question for all the cap nerds. Exactly how much better of a spot would we be in right now without signing GP2?
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the issue isn't signing Payton, it's signing him for an MLE above the tax-MLE. That hard-capped the Blazers

but blaming Portland's seeming lack of flexibility on the Payton signing alone is misguided. To start with, there's the fairly obvious desire of the Vulcans for Portland to not pay tax. That very likely limits the Blazers to only making trades that bring in less salary than they send out (since they are just below the tax line)

the biggest impact, and it's already being discussed, is with that TPE Portland got for trading Covington. A 12M TPE. Blazers could have used that to absorb a 12M contract. That would in turn give the other team a 12M TPE which is decent leverage for Portland to have

but again, if the Vulcans are allergic to tax, the leverage of that TPE is limited
 
OK let me get this straight -- mavs looking for help on D -- Blazers have same issue but hell let's trade for Woods who is an avg defender at best and IF the Blazers did trade for Woods the team would prolly be worse on D but let's do it.

How does this line of thinking make any sense ? -- If anything this could making getting a guy like JV from the Jazz harder cause the Mav's might get into the bidding.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
OK let me get this straight -- mavs looking for help on D -- Blazers have same issue but hell let's trade for Woods who is an avg defender at best and IF the Blazers did trade for Woods the team would prolly be worse on D but let's do it.

How does this line of thinking make any sense ? -- If anything this could making getting a guy like JV from the Jazz harder cause the Mav's might get into the bidding.
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People here just want to get rid of Nurk. There are quite a few here who delusionally believe that losimg Nurk is addition by subtraction. Has nothing to do with Wood.
 
illmatic99 said:
People here just want to get rid of Nurk. There are quite a few here who delusionally believe that losimg Nurk is addition by subtraction. Has nothing to do with Wood.
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Kinda' like firing our last coach and hiring "anybody" would be better? Sounds familiar sir.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
OK let me get this straight -- mavs looking for help on D -- Blazers have same issue but hell let's trade for Woods who is an avg defender at best and IF the Blazers did trade for Woods the team would prolly be worse on D but let's do it.

How does this line of thinking make any sense ? -- If anything this could making getting a guy like JV from the Jazz harder cause the Mav's might get into the bidding.
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Would we be worse on D? We could roll out Dame, Hart, Grant, Wood, and a center. It gives us more options moving forward with more length.
 
THE HCP said:
Kinda' like firing our last coach and hiring "anybody" would be better? Sounds familiar sir.
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Stotts was a mediocre coach. And to be fair, he never coached a team without at least a decent bench not full of 1st, 2nd and 4th year players with no one over 6'8".
 
LOL...."verge of potentially being moved". wiggle this suckers!
 
julius said:
Stotts was a mediocre coach. And to be fair, he never coached a team without at least a decent bench not full of 1st, 2nd and 4th year players with no one over 6'8".
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That's fair. Man I miss going to the playoffs though.
 
THE HCP said:
Oh yesterday I mentioned how I would love to have to a center on our team as productive as WHiteside was compared to the "centers" we currently have and was told I was wrong for wanting that. Never will understand this place.
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If we did move Nurk, I would give him a look. He isn't currently on a team so he would come cheap.
 
Both Kevin Durant and Jaylen Brown are listed out with a non Covid illness tonight. Coincidence?
 
THE HCP said:
That's fair. Man I miss going to the playoffs though.
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Other then you getting more pay, I don't miss underperforming in the playoffs more often than not.
 
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