Trade Deadline Predictions

[tester551]

So if we waived and stretched Thomas then it would be like 7m per for the next 3-4 yrs and going down from there.

Correct

 

[ripcityboy]

The things that sucks is lets say we trade, Davis, Aminu and Napier, that totally pisses off Dame. He will see that as packing it in. But if we don't look toward the future now, down the road we will have less options next year when the tax situation gets worse. Man, I almost think small markets should get even more amnesty clause options every year.

 

[tester551]

Ok time to take this thread serious and actually make predictions of trades that’ll never happen but if they do we can pretend like we know what we’re talking about.

Since there’s no point in playing it safe since these won’t happen anyway, I’ll predict we make three trades. I’m also assuming Milwaukee isn’t trading Jabari, because he’d be my main target otherwise.

Trade #1

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This gets us under the tax. New York takes on a little over $3m and gambles on a young, potential starting SF. It’s relatively low risk. Harkless has a relationship with the Knicks GM and going home should reenergize him. Thomas isn’t completely useless either. He can knock down a three and is a decent enough defender. Best case we also get a second rounder out of this, but I wouldn’t care if we didn’t.

Trade #2

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Same thinking as the Knicks trade, and pretty much the Crabbe trade as well. Strictly financial on our side. It also gives us a little breathing room financially in case we wanted to sign someone.

Trade #3

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Napier and Barton should be close in value, especially with Barton’s impending unrestricted free agency, but Barton actually plays a position of need. I’m also confident he would re-sign in Portland because of Dame and some other factors. Other teams don’t have that certainty, which would give us some leverage. Napier profiles well next to both Murray and Harris. Vonleh for Hernangomez seems like a fair swap. Vonleh might be more proven, but we wouldn’t have to pay Hernangomez for another few years and he adds much needed shooting.

I look forward to none of these happening.

I like the NYK trade, but I'd try to include Noah for their version of Hernangomez

 

[Scalma]

The things that sucks is lets say we trade, Davis, Aminu and Napier, that totally pisses off Dame. He will see that as packing it in. But if we don't look toward the future now, down the road we will have less options next year when the tax situation gets worse. Man, I almost think small markets should get even more amnesty clause options every year.

I think getting rid of anyone will on some level hurt Dame, since he seems like he gets along with everyone. But we have to do it. Last year they were all pissed when Plumlee was traded. But then they realized it made them better. Dame should know the deal by now. Besides, didn’t he talk specific targets with Paul? I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s not expecting to acquire them for free.

 

[Scalma]

I like the NYK trade, but I'd try to include Noah for their version of Hernangomez

I’d love Hernangomez. He could play 18-20 minutes a night, like he did last year, as a backup to Nurk. I have read though that while many teams are interested, it’s more likely NY will move O’quinn.

I’m of the opinion though that we’ll end up keeping Davis and re-signing him.

But I literally said the same thing about Plumlee so bye bye Ed.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think getting rid of anyone will on some level hurt Dame, since he seems like he gets along with everyone. But we have to do it. Last year they were all pissed when Plumlee was traded. But then they realized it made them better. Dame should know the deal by now. Besides, didn’t he talk specific targets with Paul? I mean, I’m pretty sure he’s not expecting to acquire them for free.

I'm sure everyone in the NBA knows it's a business and anything can happen. The fans probably take player movement harder than the players.

 

[Scalma]

I'm sure everyone in the NBA knows it's a business and anything can happen. The fans probably take player movement harder than the players.

It’s true for the most part but I still remember the reaction to the Plumlee trade. I’ve never seen Dame, and specifically CJ so visibly frustrated. They struggled to hide their emotion.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

As poorly as he's played this year, and with UFA coming up this summer, what trade value does Bradley really have?

 

[illmatic99]

As poorly as he's played this year, and with UFA coming up this summer, what trade value does Bradley really have?

I don't get it. The let KCP go because they wanted to invest in Bradley. Now they want to let Bradley go? So that they can play Luke Kennard more?

Sidebar, I believe he is the fourth guy (after ET, Isaiah, Crowder) coming out of Boston who is clearly worse after leaving the Brad Stevens system. Dude is becoming the new Pop.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I don't get it. The let KCP go because they wanted to invest in Bradley. Now they want to let Bradley go? So that they can play Luke Kennard more?

Sidebar, I believe he is the fourth guy (after ET, Isaiah, Crowder) coming out of Boston who is clearly worse after leaving the Brad Stevens system. Dude is becoming the new Pop.

KCP wasn't working and he wanted to destroy their cap.
Bradley isn't working and he wants to destroy their cap.
LK may or may not work, but he sure isn't destroying their cap.

I like AB.
Dame likes AB.
We'd be a much better defensive team with AB.
AB is as cheap as he'll ever be.
Therefore, we're not getting AB.

Yes, the trend of players leaving Boston has been disconcerting.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Remember how some posters here were upset that we did not "tank" enough to draft Stanley Johnson....well he is available now. Same old story, great body, lots of potential, but without a jump he becomes just another average player.....Regardless I would like to trade for him.


The Pistons have dangled Stanley Johnson in trade conversations, including for Hood. Johnson has resembled a bust with the Pistons. But he’s only 21, already a strong multipositional defender, and only a jump shot away from being a capable two-way player.
– via The Ringer

 

[illmatic99]

KCP wasn't working and he wanted to destroy their cap.
Bradley isn't working and he wants to destroy their cap.
LK may or may not work, but he sure isn't destroying their cap.

I like AB.
Dame likes AB.
We'd be a much better defensive team with AB.
AB is as cheap as he'll ever be.
Therefore, we're not getting AB.

Yes, the trend of players leaving Boston has been disconcerting.

How much will you pay Bradley in the summer?

 

[Scalma]

Remember how some posters here were upset that we did not "tank" enough to draft Stanley Johnson....well he is available now. Same old story, great body, lots of potential, but without a jump he becomes just another average player.....Regardless I would like to trade for him.


The Pistons have dangled Stanley Johnson in trade conversations, including for Hood. Johnson has resembled a bust with the Pistons. But he’s only 21, already a strong multipositional defender, and only a jump shot away from being a capable two-way player.
– via The Ringer

I don’t know why he interests me, since we already have dudes sitting at the end of the bench that are a “jump shot away from being two way players,” but he does. I guess it just depends on what Detroit wants in return. If it’s a first round pick, no thanks. But I would definitely buy low.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I don’t know why he interests me, since we already have dudes sitting at the end of the bench that are a “jump shot away from being two way players,” but he does. I guess it just depends on what Detroit wants in return. If it’s a first round pick, no thanks. But I would definitely buy low.

Yeah...how low can we buy?



Zero chance, I know, but a guy can dream, right?

 

[Scalma]

Yeah...how low can we buy?

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Zero chance, I know, but a guy can dream, right?

That’d be amazing but I don’t really see the point in trading for Bradley since I don’t think he’d stay.

If I’m Detroit I’d be interested in Napier. I don’t think SVG likes Jackson. Is Napier for Johnson and a second fair? We’d have to add Layman to make it work financially, but that’s whatever.

 

[tester551]

Remember how some posters here were upset that we did not "tank" enough to draft Stanley Johnson....well he is available now. Same old story, great body, lots of potential, but without a jump he becomes just another average player.....Regardless I would like to trade for him.


The Pistons have dangled Stanley Johnson in trade conversations, including for Hood. Johnson has resembled a bust with the Pistons. But he’s only 21, already a strong multipositional defender, and only a jump shot away from being a capable two-way player.
– via The Ringer

How about a 3way?

Hood to Detroit
Johnson to Portland
Napier & Layman to Utah

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That’d be amazing but I don’t really see the point in trading for Bradley since I don’t think he’d stay.

If I’m Detroit I’d be interested in Napier. I don’t think SVG likes Jackson. Is Napier for Johnson and a second fair? We’d have to add Layman to make it work financially, but that’s whatever.

Point of trading for Bradley is the fact that he's an expiring contract and would lower our tax burden going forward.

IMO, Napier has more value than Johnson, and Layman basically is a second. I'd think the Pistons would consider a deal of that nature to be a win for them.

 

[Scalma]

How about a 3way?

Hood to Detroit
Johnson to Portland
Napier & Layman to Utah

I’d cut out the middle man and get Hood for ourselves.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Trail Blazers Must Shed Salary to Find a Way Forward


Frank Urbina describes Portland’s path into mediocrity and how they might find a way out.

://www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2018/1/28/16937280/nba-trade-deadline-2018-portland-trail-blazers-nurkic-free-agents-salary-cap

If we look at the long-term approach, to clear up room for game-changing help this summer, the Blazers will need to find a way to get some of the bad money off their books.

However, no team in their right mind is going to want to take Turner, Harkless or Leonard’s contracts in a trade unless the Blazers attach major sweetener to the deal, either in the form of an unprotected first-round pick or their two most recent draftees, Collins or Caleb Swanigan...

As difficult a decision it may be for Portland general manager Neil Olshey, he really may not have another choice. Especially considering the Blazers are paying the luxury tax for a group with a very mundane +0.5 net rating.

Trading Nurkic now would mean the Blazers won’t have to sweat out his restricted free agency, and he’s still young enough to interest other teams, especially since whoever he gets traded to will also acquire his Bird Rights. Olshey could also look to attach one of his slightly less troublesome contracts (like Ed Davis’expiring deal) to a Nurkic trade to free up more money as well.

 

[illmatic99]

Trade deadline before AS break changes this dynamic a bit. Think teams will maybe be less likely to put their foot in the water with this pre-ponement.

 

[Scalma]

Trade deadline before AS break changes this dynamic a bit. Think teams will maybe be less likely to put their foot in the water with this pre-ponement.

Idk, the general lack of cap space this summer will probably mean a more active trade market. And teams should know who they are by now. I think the deadline should be even earlier. We’re more than halfway through the season.

 

[bradk8605]

Here is my list of players that the Blazers should try to trade and get back anything that anyone is willing to give, as long as it doesn't increase our salary cap. Anyone not on this is worth keeping and should not be traded.

Evan Turner
Moe Harkless
Meyers Leonard
Noah Vonleh
Caleb Swanigan
Jake Layman

 

[santeesioux]

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/248750/The-10-Least-Tradable-NBA-Contracts-Of-2018

Turner didn't even make Realgm's list of least tradeable contracts, let's hope gms see it the same way.

 

[Pinwheel1]

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/248750/The-10-Least-Tradable-NBA-Contracts-Of-2018

Turner didn't even make Realgm's list of least tradeable contracts, let's hope gms see it the same way.

Everyone on that list has had numerous injuries issues. ET is fairly durable. Just because he may or may not fit with our coaches offensive scheme, does not mean he is not talented and valued around the league. No doubt his contract makes him a lot more difficult to move, but not impossible like some on that list.

 

[SwissBlazer]

The Noah debacle could be helpful for us? Meyers + Harkless for Noah + a 2nd rounder ? Helps us get under the tax line without adding salary down the way.

 

[Boob-No-More]

https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/248750/The-10-Least-Tradable-NBA-Contracts-Of-2018

Turner didn't even make Realgm's list of least tradeable contracts, let's hope gms see it the same way.

It's heartwarming that 2 of the guys on that list were signed by the Lakers, and neither one of them has had significant injury issues. They were just flat out horrible contracts, especially for a team that has been rebuilding for several years. Sure, they were able to move Mosgov, but it cost them a 20-year old PG that they had taken No. 2 in the draft just two years prior. Den'g first year, they finally shut him down so they should do what they should have been doing all along, developing their young guys.

Here's another article that lists Mosgov and Deng as the 2nd and 3rd worst contracts from the NBA's Summer of Stupid:

http://fadeawayworld.com/2018/01/22/top-5-worst-contracts-from-the-summer-of-2016/

BNM

 

[Scalma]

The Noah debacle could be helpful for us? Meyers + Harkless for Noah + a 2nd rounder ? Helps us get under the tax line without adding salary down the way.

Yes, I’d do it. Wasn’t expecting anything of value in return outside of maybe getting under the tax, so I’m down.

 

[Labinot41]

Man if Avery Bradley go to Okc...

 

[BigGameDamian]

The Noah debacle could be helpful for us? Meyers + Harkless for Noah + a 2nd rounder ? Helps us get under the tax line without adding salary down the way.

Not very exciting. How does this help Dame?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Man if Avery Bradley go to Okc...

I don't see anything OKC could offer that DET (or anyone else) would want. The only contract that matches Bradley is Roberson and why would DET want a guy who just suffered a season ending, career threatening injury? They could offer Abrines + Ferguson + a pick but they've already traded their 2018 first and second round picks and their 2020 1st round pick, which means they can't trade their 2019 1st unless they get another 1st round pick in return. The could offer a combination of Patterson + Singler, but that is hot garbage anyway you slice it.

DET will get better offers.

BNM