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I do Cj for Jaylon Brown ASAP.
Add trent into the starting lineup next to brown....you immediately become a solid defensive team and Brown has steadily improved his shooting since he was a rookie. Honestly you may be able to get something extra out of Boston but definitely not Marcus smart. Those two for CJ would be an absolute haul. We would be contenders
 
blazedanugz said:
I do Cj for Jaylon Brown ASAP.
Add trent into the starting lineup next to brown....you immediately become a solid defensive team and Brown has steadily improved his shooting since he was a rookie. Honestly you may be able to get something extra out of Boston but definitely not Marcus smart. Those two for CJ would be an absolute haul. We would be contenders
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100%.
 
I have a complicated trade idea and I don't think it would be considered tampering. The Pistons have a team because of Blake Griffin's contract that needs to try and win next season. They also have the most cap room in the league. Not to mention D. Rose only has a year left on his contract and the Lakers are interested in him. Basically, I think the Pistons might be in the market for a running mate for Blake Griffin and someone locked into a contract to provide continuity for their future, someone with great character and leadership, someone like CJ McCollum. So if we talked to the Wolves and the Pistons about a trade that would consummate two days after the draft, we could ask the Wolves who they would want the Pistons to draft at 8 that the Pistons would like to keep if the deal fell through and who the Wolves would like us to draft at 16 and 46 that we would want to keep should the deal fall through. We stay in contact with the Pistons and the Wolves during the draft so regardless of how the picks went, we could keep the deal alive. At the end of the day if the Wolves had who they wanted at 8, 16 and 46 for Anthony Edwards then in two days the last part of the deal could be completed. That part of the deal would be us striking a long term contract with Christian Wood for around 15-16M per season, then a sign and trade that would send CJ to the Pistons for the newly signed Wood and the rights to the player drafted 8th, followed by a trade for the rights to Edwards in exchange for the rights to the players drafted 8th, 16th and 46th.

We end up with Dame, Gary, Trevor, Wood, Nurk, Hoodie, Zach, Edwards, Nas, Ant, probably pick up Wenyen for the min, possibly Rio, then a free agent at 14 or 15 million from cap space, the MLE and BAE. Obviously one of our moves would be to get a solid backup PG probably with the MLE (maybe Kris Dunn) but we could just get the best young experienced player available for 14 or 15 million to add depth (maybe Montezl Harrell) and one more pretty good piece with the BAE (no idea). I would also want to extend Gary during the abbreviated off season. It would make it so we would be really competitive this season but our future, for the rest of Dame's career and beyond would be very very bright. Dame at point with Gary and Edwards on the wings, with Wood and Nurk in the post has the potential to be absolutely the best starting lineup in the league. Then depth with Zach, Nas, Wenyen, Ant, and our free agents we pick up in this off season. We could be looking at a dynasty pretty quickly if Edwards pans out and Wood continues on his trajectory.
 
tykendo said:
Man! I feel you are really over valuing Brown. He's more inconsistent than CJ. Brown is growing on me as a talent, but he's not as clutch as CJ.
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Not as much as the Celtics do. I don't think there's a chance in Hell they'd trade him for CJ.
 
So, the Thunder are promoting an assistant to be their new coach. That suggests they are all in on rebuilding. Are there any of their vets you would like to poach? Would you offer Simons/Little for one of their future picks?
 
Heres one:
CJ, Nurk & Ariza for KAT & D.Russell

Russell is 6'5 versus CJ 6'3 plus he gets more steals than CJ.
KAT wants a change of scenery and he's better than Nurk.
 
Hoopguru said:
Heres one:
CJ, Nurk & Ariza for KAT & D.Russell

Russell is 6'5 versus CJ 6'3 plus he gets more steals than CJ.
KAT wants a change of scenery and he's better than Nurk.
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Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat, I don't think Minny would touch it with a ten foot pole but Olshey would be an absolute idiot if he didn't do that one.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat, I don't think Minny would touch it with a ten foot pole but Olshey would be an absolute idiot if he didn't do that one.
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I don't think that's nearly enough for KAT alone.
 
GDiama said:
I don't think that's nearly enough for KAT alone.
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Yeah, if KAT was on the block (which I really don't think he is) maybe they'd take CJ, Nurk and three first rounders for him and the salary that James Johnson is definitely going to opt into.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat, I don't think Minny would touch it with a ten foot pole but Olshey would be an absolute idiot if he didn't do that one.
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Remember who their assistant coach is, he's a huge CJ fan.
 
Hoopguru said:
Remember who their assistant coach is, he's a huge CJ fan.
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Hey man, it would take us from pretender to contender and I'm all for that... KAT specifically is far more complementary to Dame's game and Russell has better size and athleticism to defend the perimeter, especially at the 2.
 
Fez Forthright said:
Zach for Christian Wood in a s&t :bored:
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I mean if Wood is leaving that actually might be enough but he's not going to sign for Zach's salary otherwise we could just fit him into the MLE and forget about a sign and trade altogether. It would probably be worth it if we did Zach and Ariza but that would leave us with a need at both backup post and starting SF. I guess maybe Wenyen could be the backup 4, we could use the BAE for a backup 5 (maybe Nerlens Noel) and the full MLE for Derrick Jones Jr. at starting 3?

Then our rotation would look something like Dame, CJ, Jones, Wood, Nurk, Gary, Hoodie, Noel, Nas, Wenyen
 
This trade make total since, for CJ.
Let him have his own team where he can star, THE KNICKS! Perfect fit for the guy and he's into media, a big market team is perfect for him.
They get CJ and we get Julius Randle & Elfrid Payton.
Gives us a banging scorer down low and a decent defender at 2 backing up Trent and/or Hood.
 
Hoopguru said:
This trade make total since, for CJ.
Let him have his own team where he can star, THE KNICKS! Perfect fit for the guy and he's into media, a big market team is perfect for him.
They get CJ and we get Julius Randle & Elfrid Payton.
Gives us a banging scorer down low and a decent defender at 2 backing up Trent and/or Hood.
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CJ for Randle and Payton? That's terrible.
 
BonesJones said:
Because Julius Randle is horrible. Hes a bad shooter, inefficient scorer, and a worse defender than C.J... Payton is horrible and doesnt do anything well.
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OK, do you think CJ would be a good fit in NY a major market where he could better establish his brand.
 
Random trade note I personally forgot about. When looking for trades, I've been operating under this past season where we are a tax team, could take 125% +100k in trade. But next year, we'd be under the tax. As such, for some trades, the rules differ:

Non-Taxpaying Teams
Outgoing salary Maximum incoming salary
$0 to $6,533,333 175% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,0005
$6,533,334 to $19.6 million The outgoing salary plus $5 million5
$19.6 million and up 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000

Caveat being we have to still be under the tax after the trade.

So for example, Hood , above the tax, can bring back 7.5 million. Hood under the tax can bring back 10.6

Anyways...
 
BonesJones said:
Because Julius Randle is horrible. Hes a bad shooter, inefficient scorer, and a worse defender than C.J... Payton is horrible and doesnt do anything well.
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And that’s not even the worst part about randle. He fit poorly on this team and especially next to Nurkic
 
Hoopguru said:
OK, do you think CJ would be a good fit in NY a major market where he could better establish his brand.
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Seriously for the sake of what CJ is doing he can do it from anywhere. Being an NBA player gives him a platform. The two biggest NBA broadcasting personalities are Charles Barkley and Jalen Rose... those guys did not spend the majority of their playing careers in LA or NYC. Kenny Smith didn't, Chris Webber didn't, Reggie Miller didn't, Mark Jackson didn't and the list goes on and on. I do think the Knicks should want CJ, NYC might benefit CJ's brand a little but his personality and game would play well in NYC for the Knicks but they don't have shit to give us for him.
 
Hoopguru said:
Why?
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I think that Randle could be functional at PF but he'd likely need a Jarrett Allen type of C... or Anthony Davis next to him, he did really well when playing with him. Payton can defend well and bring the ball up the floor and that it. So I think we could get more for CJ. I actually think that the deal I've been talking about since we got bounced from the playoffs is a good one @BonesJones doesn't like my deal either.

CJ and Ariza

for

Josh Richardson, Tobias Harris and Philly's 21st pick in this year's draft.

I like this trade because Harris gets buckets and is very athletic at the 4, Richardson is a great three and D wing and we get a pick. A rotation of Dame, Gary, Richardson, Harris, Nurk, Zach, Hoodie, MLE PG (Clarkson or Dunn), BAE big (Noel) and Nas or Wenyen would be better than what we're about to roll out there without a trade. We would have a much much better perimeter defense and our interior defense wouldn't struggle. I realize we wouldn't have as many iso options as we had last season but I believe that would be good for our offense, not bad but for those of you who ask, "Who else can get their own shot besides Dame?" I answer go watch some tape on Harris and even Richardson. Harris really can score very well and does so the way he should. He hits open threes when someone sets him up with one, he slashes without the ball and gets good looks at the hole off of assists, he slashes with the ball and gets easy baskets and he can pull up off the dribble... he also plays good defense especially at the 4. Richardson's play making abilities are more limited but he can get his own shot in a pinch but more so the guy hits open threes and plays lock down perimeter D and that's what we'll need from him. Also both guys can play two positions Richardson 3 and 2 and Harris 4 and 3. They along with Gary would cause these things called turnovers which would lead to these other things called fast break or transition points that we aren't too familiar with. We would also have two picks to either get two prospects with maybe Poku at 16 and Scrubbs at 21, trade up to get a better guy in the mid lottery or trade out and try to get a pick or two in next year's loaded draft.
 
RR7 said:
Random trade note I personally forgot about. When looking for trades, I've been operating under this past season where we are a tax team, could take 125% +100k in trade. But next year, we'd be under the tax. As such, for some trades, the rules differ:

Non-Taxpaying Teams
Outgoing salary Maximum incoming salary
$0 to $6,533,333 175% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,0005
$6,533,334 to $19.6 million The outgoing salary plus $5 million5
$19.6 million and up 125% of the outgoing salary, plus $100,000

Caveat being we have to still be under the tax after the trade.

So for example, Hood , above the tax, can bring back 7.5 million. Hood under the tax can bring back 10.6

Anyways...
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that's true

one caveat, IIRC: teams still have to be below the tax (or is it apron?) after the trade
 
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