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BonesJones said:
Because Julius Randle is horrible. Hes a bad shooter, inefficient scorer, and a worse defender than C.J... Payton is horrible and doesnt do anything well.
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a bit of excess hyperbole there

* in terms of TS%, Randle actually has a higher career TS% than CJ; mainly because he gets to the FT line at a much higher rate: career FT rate of .394 vs CJ's .167. So, your contention that Randle is an inefficient scorer would only be correct if you also claimed CJ was an inefficient scorer too. They both are around the NBA average though in terms of TS%. Randle is a big, and he's assisted on more of his FG's so it's probably fair to give him some demerits because of those things

the biggest problem Randle has, in terms of efficiency, is he went from averaging 0.5 attempted three's a game in 2018 to 3.6/game this season; and he's a shitty 3 point shooter. So, either he's an out of control chucker, or he's been getting bad coaching; or maybe both.

Randle is a good rebounder though. As for him being a worse defender than CJ: what I see is over the last couple of seasons, Randle has posted a defensive rating about 1 point better than his teams while CJ has posted a defensive rating about 3 points worse. So, if you're trading for either player for their defense, you're likely a terrible GM
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Payton definitely is an inefficient shooter. He's about as "horrible" as Evan Turner, maybe worse. He's a perimeter player you don't want shooting the ball, and that's disadvantage, offense.

But Payton IS good as a facilitator. Per 36, he has averaged 8 assists ve 3 turnovers. That's a 2.7 assist/turnover ratio which is good for a PG. He's also a sold rebounder from the PG position
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those things said, yeah, that would be a poor trade for the Blazers. They would lose more than they gain

sorry about the paragraphs
 
wizenheimer said:
those things said, yeah, that would be a poor trade for the Blazers. They would lose more than they gain

sorry about the paragraphs
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When I've proposed this trade in earlier threads, I've also had the 8th pick coming back to us. I wouldn't do it straight up, but I'd do it along with decent draft compensation.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When I've proposed this trade in earlier threads, I've also had the 8th pick coming back to us. I wouldn't do it straight up, but I'd do it along with decent draft compensation.
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sorry....I missed that

and yeah, that certainly changes the equation
 
O’Connor said today on his podcast that he’s heard Portland is one of the teams sniffing around on Jrue Holiday

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7GLZcouGtGm4fPbhLtYRNl?si=KMTtND0tTl-X5IOEPYaPLg&context=spotify:show:5jUeKBONOmKJivqrRoIDJn

around the 15 minute mark. The idea being a three guard lineup with more off ball minutes for Dame/CJ. He does say he hasn’t heard anything about them the last week though, suggesting they don’t have the pieces to get it done.

I think that’s interesting though. Could mean the Hampton/Maxey connection has some legs. I’d love to see Dame/CJ with less responsibility.
 
Scalma said:
O’Connor said today on his podcast that he’s heard Portland is one of the teams sniffing around on Jrue Holiday

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7GLZcouGtGm4fPbhLtYRNl?si=KMTtND0tTl-X5IOEPYaPLg&context=spotify:show:5jUeKBONOmKJivqrRoIDJn

around the 15 minute mark. The idea being a three guard lineup with more off ball minutes for Dame/CJ. He does say he hasn’t heard anything about them the last week though, suggesting they don’t have the pieces to get it done.

I think that’s interesting though. Could mean the Hampton/Maxey connection has some legs. I’d love to see Dame/CJ with less responsibility.
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either CJ or Jrue would have to come off the bench. Don't think either would be interested even if it's good for the team.
 
Scalma said:
O’Connor said today on his podcast that he’s heard Portland is one of the teams sniffing around on Jrue Holiday

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7GLZcouGtGm4fPbhLtYRNl?si=KMTtND0tTl-X5IOEPYaPLg&context=spotify:show:5jUeKBONOmKJivqrRoIDJn

around the 15 minute mark. The idea being a three guard lineup with more off ball minutes for Dame/CJ. He does say he hasn’t heard anything about them the last week though, suggesting they don’t have the pieces to get it done.

I think that’s interesting though. Could mean the Hampton/Maxey connection has some legs. I’d love to see Dame/CJ with less responsibility.
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Even though that 3 guard rotation would be freaking amazing. We can’t really get Jrue without trading CJ. Doing a Jrue for CJ trade doesn’t make sense for both team, so it would have to be a 3 team trade somehow
 
22:15 Sign-and-trade possibilities for Danilo Gallinari, Davis Bertans and Jeff Teague

Gozlan: Portland, I think, has a real hole that Gallinari can fill right in. I feel like with Portland he can get the most minutes and obviously a starting opportunity there. He’d be a big part of the Blazers’ offense. They’ve got enough space below the hard cap to get him in a sign-and-trade.
https://hoopshype.com/2020/11/12/nb...-rumors-with-michael-scotto-and-yossi-gozlan/
 
illmatic99 said:
either CJ or Jrue would have to come off the bench. Don't think either would be interested even if it's good for the team.
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Jrue, Dame, and CJ would all start. Like Paul, Schroeder, and SGA did in OKC. Jrue can guard bigger players. It would work.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Jrue, Dame, and CJ would all start. Like Paul, Schroeder, and SGA did in OKC. Jrue can guard bigger players. It would work.
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A 6'4 combo guard playing the 3 next to an undersized backcourt?

An undersized SF that has a questionable 3pt shot at that?

Makes no sense.
 
Scalma said:
22:15 Sign-and-trade possibilities for Danilo Gallinari, Davis Bertans and Jeff Teague

Gozlan: Portland, I think, has a real hole that Gallinari can fill right in. I feel like with Portland he can get the most minutes and obviously a starting opportunity there. He’d be a big part of the Blazers’ offense. They’ve got enough space below the hard cap to get him in a sign-and-trade.
https://hoopshype.com/2020/11/12/nb...-rumors-with-michael-scotto-and-yossi-gozlan/
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Wed have to trade Ariza in that deal. I like it offensively but itd guarantee us as a bottom 5 defense.
 
RR7 said:
Hearing that that's their interest?
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A little fly on the wall (who has been pretty good with info over the years) mentioned he'd heard rumblings from a team back East. Then went over scenarios in how he thought it might work. I wasn't a fan of it, but could see how it might happen. Someone on here had at least something similar as a proposal.

Will try and talk to him and a couple other people today to see if there are any more details, or to confirm if anyone else has heard something similar.
 
damianlillard said:
Even though that 3 guard rotation would be freaking amazing. We can’t really get Jrue without trading CJ. Doing a Jrue for CJ trade doesn’t make sense for both team, so it would have to be a 3 team trade somehow
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CJ plus Ariza to Philly, Tobias Harris to NO, Holiday plus Richardson to Portland.
 
TBpup said:
A little fly on the wall (who has been pretty good with info over the years) mentioned he'd heard rumblings from a team back East. Then went over scenarios in how he thought it might work. I wasn't a fan of it, but could see how it might happen. Someone on here had at least something similar as a proposal.

Will try and talk to him and a couple other people today to see if there are any more details, or to confirm if anyone else has heard something similar.
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Well, don't want to aift through all the past pages, to see where someone was close, so will just wait on the update and start speculation.

East holds picks 3 through 9 currently, so a lot to choose from in move up scenarios.

Atlanta has seen a lot of rumors about their pick, and people trying to get there, as well as them wanting to move back. Seems like a big jump from 16 to 6.

Detroit has been said to be willing to add bad contracts for assets, so unsure on a 16 to 7 jump.

Similar with the Knicks. If there was a way we helped facilitate a bigger deal, maybe, with them landing paul or Westbrook.

Washington at 9 is the closest within reach jump wise.
 
RR7 said:
Well, don't want to aift through all the past pages, to see where someone was close, so will just wait on the update and start speculation.

East holds picks 3 through 9 currently, so a lot to choose from in move up scenarios.

Atlanta has seen a lot of rumors about their pick, and people trying to get there, as well as them wanting to move back. Seems like a big jump from 16 to 6.

Detroit has been said to be willing to add bad contracts for assets, so unsure on a 16 to 7 jump.

Similar with the Knicks. If there was a way we helped facilitate a bigger deal, maybe, with them landing paul or Westbrook.

Washington at 9 is the closest within reach jump wise.
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It is that type of thinking as to where the 'fly' had his musings and a further phone call went into more detail. It is really a compilation of a number of speculations, facts which happen to fit the theory, and then extrapilation. Seems like more wishful thinking than anything, however, there are parts of it which are farely compelling.

I left a message with @BonesJones to see if he would going to do a Pre-Draft show and hopefully by then, a little more of this could be verified or at least fleshed out.
 
TBpup said:
It is that type of thinking as to where the 'fly' had his musings and a further phone call went into more detail. It is really a compilation of a number of speculations, facts which happen to fit the theory, and then extrapilation. Seems like more wishful thinking than anything, however, there are parts of it which are farely compelling.

I left a message with @BonesJones to see if he would going to do a Pre-Draft show and hopefully by then, a little more of this could be verified or at least fleshed out.
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You left a message? Where at? I must've missed it.
 
TBpup said:
It is that type of thinking as to where the 'fly' had his musings and a further phone call went into more detail. It is really a compilation of a number of speculations, facts which happen to fit the theory, and then extrapilation. Seems like more wishful thinking than anything, however, there are parts of it which are farely compelling.

I left a message with @BonesJones to see if he would going to do a Pre-Draft show and hopefully by then, a little more of this could be verified or at least fleshed out.
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We'll be streaming live Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday night starting around 9PM PT over on our streaming channel (Blazers Uprise Live).

We'll be streaming all 60 picks on Wednesday and the 1st day of Free Agency on Friday on our main channel (Blazers Uprise).

For anyone who's interested, we've been posting draft Profiles over on our new NBA channel (NBA Uprise).

We'll also have a website relaunch with written content here shortly!
 
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