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TorturedBlazerFan said:
Ok Remember every this is thread is "trade ideas", not necessarily, "good trade ideas".

Orlando gets - CJ McCollum + #24
Portland gets - Evan Fournier and Johnathan Simmons +#35
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Personally I wouldn't trade CJ for that little in return and give up our pick in the process. I'd probably do it if it was for the #6 pick instead of the #35 pick though.
 
hoopsjock said:
Personally I wouldn't trade CJ for that little in return and give up our pick in the process. I'd probably do it if it was for the #6 pick instead of the #35 pick though.
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Probably right, Simmons did look good for pop.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Probably right, Simmons did look good for pop.
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I think you are vastly overrating him based on a couple random good games for the Spurs. He averaged 6 points per game in his last season with the Spurs. If he was any good why would Pop not match a 3 year, $18 million contract?
 
hoopsjock said:
I think you are vastly overrating him based on a couple random good games for the Spurs. He averaged 6 points per game in his last season with the Spurs. If he was any good why would Pop not match a 3 year, $18 million contract?
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I didn’t say he looked like Kawhi.
 
I'm proud of this one..

Who says no?
POR Gets: #10, Kenneth Faried*, Jerryd Bayless, Small PHI Salaries
DEN Gets: #20, Cole Aldrich**,
PHI Gets: #14, Future POR/MIN 2nds, Cash
MIN Gets: #26, Al-Farouq Aminu,
*TPE
**Aldrich $2M gaurunteed next year, Must waive by June 20th (Deal could be done a couple days before the draft)

Denver moves down 6 spots to shed Faried
Philadelphia moves down 4 spots and trades #26 to shed Bayless and other salary
Minnesota moves down 6 spots to add a 3-and-D PF.
 
down 6 spots to add a 3-and
BonesJones said:
I will entertain y'all with a "Blow it up" plan, in the spirit of LS.

First:
POR Gets: 17th Pick, Snell/Delly
MIL Gets: 24th Pick

CLE Gets: CJ McCollum, Al-Farouq Aminu, Moe Harkless, Ben McLemore, Dillon Brooks*
MEM Gets: 8th Pick, Kevin Love, JR Smith, Cedi Osman*, Jake Layman*
POR Gets: 4th Pick, 10th Pick, Chandler Parsons, George Hill, Jerryd Bayless,
PHI Gets: 17th Pick, Future 2nds

Cleveland saves apx. $13M, which is much more of you include tax. Gets an elite scorer and versatile defenders to enhance switchability to match up with GS. Plus, a young scorer off the bench..
Memphis ain't blowing it up, so moving Parsons, moving down only 4 spots, and getting back a great fit and an all-star? Great deal for them.
Philadelphia sheds salary.
Portland matches up a bunch of bad salary to expire in 2020, gets two top 10 picks in a top loaded draft. Could give MEM 10th and take 8th.

Draft Bagley, Bamba, or Jackson 4th, Bridges 10th. Resign our bigs.


Lillard / Hill
Bridges / Hill
Parsons / Turner
Collins / Rookie big
Nurkic / Davis

Shop Nurkic once we can, add go into 2020 free agency with Lillard, Bridges, Collins, and Bamba/Jackson/Bagley. We'd have apx. $60M in cap space to add to a solid core.
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this an interesting proposal
 
BonesJones said:
I'm proud of this one..

Who says no?
POR Gets: #10, Kenneth Faried*, Jerryd Bayless, Small PHI Salaries
DEN Gets: #20, Cole Aldrich**,
PHI Gets: #14, Future POR/MIN 2nds, Cash
MIN Gets: #26, Al-Farouq Aminu,
*TPE
**Aldrich $2M gaurunteed next year, Must waive by June 20th (Deal could be done a couple days before the draft)

Denver moves down 6 spots to shed Faried
Philadelphia moves down 4 spots and trades #26 to shed Bayless and other salary
Minnesota moves down 6 spots to add a 3-and-D PF.
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Bouncing off of this:

POR Gets: #4, Chandler Parsons, George Hill, Tristan Thompson, Jarrell Martin
MEM Gets: #8, Kevin Love, Evan Turner,
CLE Gets: #24, C.J. McCollum, Moe Harkless, JaMychal Green
*CLE saves $16.3M

And then shop Tristan Thomson for a simarly bad contract, cuz screw that dude... here's what I would do.

NYK Gets: #10, Tristan Thompson, Meyers Leonard
POR Gets: #9, Joakim Noah, Courtney Lee

Wed send out: #24, McCollum, Harkless, Turner, Aminu and Leonard

We'd get back: #4, #9, Hill, Lee, Parsons, Noah, Faried, Bayless, Martin

Lillard / Hill / Bayless
Lee / Hill
Parsons / ?
Collins / ? / Faried
Nurkic / Davis / Noah

That's a pretty solid squad still, and add the 4th and 9th picks, and we'd be in business. Hill ($19M), Faried ($13.5M), and Bayless ($8.5M) would expire after this year, bringing our huge cap number back down to earth ($31M between those 3). Parsons ($23M), Noah ($18M), and Lee ($13M), would expire the year after ($54M between those 3).
That's be $85M coming off the books in the next two years.

Lets say we took Doncic 4th amd Bridges 9th.. in 2020, we'd be left with a lineup of
PG Dame ($31.6M)
SG Doncic ($6M)
SF Bridges ($3.8M)
PF Collins ($5.4M)
C Nurkic ($16.2M?)
Total salary: $63M.

Assuming the cap is at $110M, we'd have around $45M to play with to add to an already promising, young lineup that could be on the verge of competing. We could even trade Nurkic before then depending on if we draft a big man or not, and that would give us $60M+.

If we "Blow it up", I'm keeping Dame, and in not settling for anything less than this.
 
BonesJones said:
Bouncing off of this:

POR Gets: #4, Chandler Parsons, George Hill, Tristan Thompson, Jarrell Martin
MEM Gets: #8, Kevin Love, Evan Turner,
CLE Gets: #24, C.J. McCollum, Moe Harkless, JaMychal Green
*CLE saves $16.3M

And then shop Tristan Thomson for a simarly bad contract, cuz screw that dude... here's what I would do.

NYK Gets: #10, Tristan Thompson, Meyers Leonard
POR Gets: #9, Joakim Noah, Courtney Lee

Wed send out: #24, McCollum, Harkless, Turner, Aminu and Leonard

We'd get back: #4, #9, Hill, Lee, Parsons, Noah, Faried, Bayless, Martin

Lillard / Hill / Bayless
Lee / Hill
Parsons / ?
Collins / ? / Faried
Nurkic / Davis / Noah

That's a pretty solid squad still, and add the 4th and 9th picks, and we'd be in business. Hill ($19M), Faried ($13.5M), and Bayless ($8.5M) would expire after this year, bringing our huge cap number back down to earth ($31M between those 3). Parsons ($23M), Noah ($18M), and Lee ($13M), would expire the year after ($54M between those 3).
That's be $85M coming off the books in the next two years.

Lets say we took Doncic 4th amd Bridges 9th.. in 2020, we'd be left with a lineup of
PG Dame ($31.6M)
SG Doncic ($6M)
SF Bridges ($3.8M)
PF Collins ($5.4M)
C Nurkic ($16.2M?)
Total salary: $63M.

Assuming the cap is at $110M, we'd have around $45M to play with to add to an already promising, young lineup that could be on the verge of competing. We could even trade Nurkic before then depending on if we draft a big man or not, and that would give us $60M+.

If we "Blow it up", I'm keeping Dame, and in not settling for anything less than this.
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That's a hell of an on-the-fly rebuild.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I guess but 10m a year isn’t that outrageous for a rotation player in today’s market. I’d love to keep him around for 6-7m but I kind of don’t think that’ll be an option.
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Sure for today's market two years ago. Not this coming offseason....
 
hoopsjock said:
Would you guys trade Leonard and #24 for Olynyk?
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Technically they had the same PER last year!
I think Olynk would see the floor so at least it wouldn't feel like 10M a year on the cap that's just sitting there not doing anything.
 
Evan Turner to the Knicks for Joakim Noah and the #9. Noah is pretty much done and doesn't play any more, the knicks take on another bad contract, but at least it's a guy who will play so they get rid of Noah, Blazers get to move up to #9.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Evan Turner to the Knicks for Joakim Noah and the #9. Noah is pretty much done and doesn't play any more, the knicks take on another bad contract, but at least it's a guy who will play so they get rid of Noah, Blazers get to move up to #9.
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Salary and years virtually the same. Basically trading Turner for 9. Would you trade 9 for Turner?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Salary and years virtually the same. Basically trading Turner for 9. Would you trade 9 for Turner?
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if I was Portland yes, if I was the Knicks probably not, but like I said at least Turner still plays. The Noah doesn't even seem to want to play anymore.
 
Heres another one.
Blazers get Lamarcus Aldridge
Spurs Get Evan Turner, AFA, the 24th and 2019 lottery protected first.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Heres another one.
Blazers get Lamarcus Aldridge
Spurs Get Evan Turner, AFA, the 24th and 2019 lottery protected first.
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Pass on LA and giving up picks. LA is a ball stopper and doesn't fit what we need and didn't get us anywhere in his prime. We need guys that can actually drive to the basket, play defense, and can hit an open shot at a NBA level. Athletes when you can't have superstars is what the NBA has been for the last 20 years. AFA, Harkless, Leonard, Pat C, and Laymon are not athletes. None can dribble drive to save their lives making them stationary objects while CJ and Lillard play keep away.

It is time NO reevaluates what an athlete is as far as in NBA terms. He has been very poor at identifying them.
 
lamlor said:
Pass on LA and giving up picks. LA is a ball stopper and doesn't fit what we need and didn't get us anywhere in his prime. We need guys that can actually drive to the basket, play defense, and can hit an open shot at a NBA level. Athletes when you can't have superstars is what the NBA has been for the last 2 years. AFA, Harkless, Leonard, Pat C, and Laymon are not athletes. None can dribble drive to save their lives making them stationary objects while CJ and Lillard play keep away.

It is time NO reevaluates what an athlete is as far as in NBA terms. He has been very poor at identifying them.
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Yeah I kind of agree, but Aldridge has gotten a ton better defensively, Aldridge, Dame, CJ, and Nurk, and Harkless seems like it would be one of the better starting 5’s.
I know most of us don’t like LMA for many reasons but he’s still a pretty good player, and this year without Kawhi
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Yeah I kind of agree, but Aldridge has gotten a ton better defensively, Aldridge, Dame, CJ, and Nurk, and Harkless seems like it would be one of the better starting 5’s.
I know most of us don’t like LMA for many reasons but he’s still a pretty good player, and this year without Kawhi
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I agree he is still a good player, but his best year for SA came when their best player was out and he could control the ball. He is not a good facilitator when he has the ball in his hands and the offense comes to a stop when he does. Any team would just run a double team out at him and he would be kind of useless since he does drive against an on coming double team nor does he hit an open man cutting to the hoop. He could pass it back out back the double team would come from a guy guarding Harkless or AFA who can't buy a basket on eBay. I said it when he was here and I will say it again, you win with stars that can create in today's NBA and with role players that give you at least two positives while on the court. Even Nurk is kind of old school center that good teams exploit and make them useless late in games.

If I were to remake the Blazers (and nobody has called to ask me to), I would build with:

PG: Lillard
SG: DeRozan type as far as size and game (hit a mid jumper and drive)
SF: Batum in his prime type before the big contract (a guy that can do a lot of little things well but doesn't always need the ball to help the team win)
PF: Ed Davis type with a little more strength and defensive mobility
C : Capela type that controls the key especially with help defense.

Bench: Two 3 and D types (1 guard, 1 forward), Two centers (one bigger offensive type, one PF/C type that has length and lateral movement), One true power forward to do dirty work when needed, one 6'4"-6'7" ball handler that can drive and dish but can hit an open jumper when needed.

I know this is extremely vague, but that is my blue print and has been for a decade plus for today's NBA. You have to collect draft picks and either scout better than everyone else or get lucky. NO hasn't done much of that in his years nor has he gotten lucky outside of a Top 10 pick.
 
lamlor said:
I agree he is still a good player, but his best year for SA came when their best player was out and he could control the ball. He is not a good facilitator when he has the ball in his hands and the offense comes to a stop when he does. Any team would just run a double team out at him and he would be kind of useless since he does drive against an on coming double team nor does he hit an open man cutting to the hoop. He could pass it back out back the double team would come from a guy guarding Harkless or AFA who can't buy a basket on eBay. I said it when he was here and I will say it again, you win with stars that can create in today's NBA and with role players that give you at least two positives while on the court. Even Nurk is kind of old school center that good teams exploit and make them useless late in games.

If I were to remake the Blazers (and nobody has called to ask me to), I would build with:

PG: Lillard
SG: DeRozan type as far as size and game (hit a mid jumper and drive)
SF: Batum in his prime type before the big contract (a guy that can do a lot of little things well but doesn't always need the ball to help the team win)
PF: Ed Davis type with a little more strength and defensive mobility
C : Capela type that controls the key especially with help defense.

Bench: Two 3 and D types (1 guard, 1 forward), Two centers (one bigger offensive type, one PF/C type that has length and lateral movement), One true power forward to do dirty work when needed, one 6'4"-6'7" ball handler that can drive and dish but can hit an open jumper when needed.

I know this is extremely vague, but that is my blue print and has been for a decade plus for today's NBA. You have to collect draft picks and either scout better than everyone else or get lucky. NO hasn't done much of that in his years nor has he gotten lucky outside of a Top 10 pick.
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Well Dame and CJ can create, Aldridge gives a really good midrange game and pick and pop, Nurkic gives the pnr option. I mean yes if we could restart the whole roster is that who I would come up with? No probably not.
 
riverman said:
you think ETs contract is bad....Noah is making stupid money and not playing..no saving here
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Oh I understand, Noah’s contract is basically the same and he is old and seems disinterested, but... The trade Would be for #9 pick which at least gets you a lottery pick out of ET.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Oh I understand, Noah’s contract is basically the same and he is old and seems disinterested, but... The trade Would be for #9 pick which at least gets you a lottery pick out of ET.
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Noah's contract is through 202o....it's why they can't move him...he's their Meyers Leonard..ET helps our defense and will expire in 2 years as well
 
riverman said:
Noah's contract is through 202o....it's why they can't move him...he's their Meyers Leonard..ET helps our defense and will expire in 2 years as well
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The question to me would be do you think we could get someone at #9 who is either better than ET? Getting the #9 would mean you have the #9 and #24, which also may mean you could use those to move up a couple spots if anyone is up there you really want.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
The question to me would be do you think we could get someone at #9 who is either better than ET? Getting the #9 would mean you have the #9 and #24, which also may mean you could use those to move up a couple spots if anyone is up there you really want.
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I think you'll get more for ET after another season or even at the next deadline than this offseason...
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
The question to me would be do you think we could get someone at #9 who is either better than ET? Getting the #9 would mean you have the #9 and #24, which also may mean you could use those to move up a couple spots if anyone is up there you really want.
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I'm pretty sure we're not drafting for the Blazers this off season...I think our pick will be gone...might buy a 2nd rounder but the 24th is getting shopped around as we speak
 
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