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yuyuza1 said:
What's the motivation for this? I don't think dumping Meyers and one year remaining after this one is worth losing a pick.
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Flexibility. I believe it would open up the full MLE, and it would also make it easier to re-sign someone like Aminu. Could be wrong, although I know dumping Turner would.
 
wizenheimer said:
I've never figured out what all the attraction is for Otto Porter. I get that he's more consistent than Harkless and probably has a wider skill-set. But he's not an all-star level talent and he's already 25.

one of biggest issues with CJ is that he's not all-star level but has a near max contract. He's overpaid substantially and that contract is a significant obstacle to Portland exercising any flexibility. Porter has an identical contrat. Trading CJ for Porter just trades one bloated contract for another. It would not alter Portland's trajectory much at all....not like it would if CJ had been traded for Paul George or Jimmy Butler or Kawhi Leonard. Those would have been risks worth taking. I don't know that CJ for Porter is a risk worth taking, but I guess any step that alters the rhythm on a treadmill is worth trying...hell, at a certain point in time, just crashing off a treadmill is better than staying on
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I don't think anybody mentioned a swap of CJ and Porter. Just getting him with the rest of ours "assets". CJ for one of those guys is not a risk, it's a bad trade for the other teams. You will not get an All Star with CJ, not even close. Especially as he is showing more and more that he is empty scorer with no D or playmaking skills.
 
yuyuza1 said:
I wouldn't trade CJ for Porter. I'd trade Aminu and Turner and pick(s) however.
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But why would Washington? I get saving money, but I don’t remember the last time a player of Porters caliber was salary dumped, which is essentially what this is.
 
Blake might be one guy Olshey would consider trading CJ for.

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PtldPlatypus said:
Was thinking about this idea earlier today. Detroit is (I think) 3-12 in their part 15. Perhaps they're ready to blow up.

Reggie Bullock perhaps?
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Stanley Johnson is one player they seem to want to move on from. He's been on the block for two straight summers.

By the time Blake is on a noticeable decline, Zach Collins ought to be ready.

The Warriors can't guard Nurk, imagine if we had Griffin alongside him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Was thinking about this idea earlier today. Detroit is (I think) 3-12 in their part 15. Perhaps they're ready to blow up.

Reggie Bullock perhaps?
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CJ/Meyers/and our pick for Blake and Bullock? They can throw in an expiring to even out the money since they’re close to the tax line.

Dame
Bullock
Harkless
Griffin
Nurkic

Yum.
 
Lillard was drafted 3 yrs after Blake.

He has only played 57 fewer games than Griffin. If you're ready for 55 game seasons while paying him 38 mil a year, go for it.

I ain't giving up CJ for that without getting picks or young players back
 
Bullock would be a good target regardless of anything. He fits into the Vonleh TPE and profiles well with Dame and CJ. Pistons also have some younger guys they could give more minutes to.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Lillard was drafted 3 yrs after Blake.

He has only played 57 fewer games than Griffin. If you're ready for 55 game seasons while paying him 38 mil a year, go for it.

I ain't giving up CJ for that without getting picks or young players back
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You realize you’re not getting someone without flaws for CJ, right? Were not giving up an all star here.
 
CJ McCollum
Evan Turner
Caleb Swanigan
1 to 2 1st rnd picks

For

Gordon Hayward
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Morris
 
This has been thrown around but I’m coming around to it. CJ for Aaron Gordon. Orlando would have to add something else, but financially it’s pretty even. Gordon is owed roughly $54m after this season while CJ is owed roughly $56m.

CJ is exactly what Orlando needs and there’d be no one else he’d have to differ to. It’d be his team. They’re also not a free agent destination so their best bet to land an impact scorer is through trade. Gordon isn’t the scorer CJ is but he gives us someone that can contribute on both ends and profiles well with Nurk and Collins. Orlando could have a front court of Vucevic, Bamba, and Isaac, making Gordon expendable.
 
Scalma said:
This has been thrown around but I’m coming around to it. CJ for Aaron Gordon. Orlando would have to add something else, but financially it’s pretty even. Gordon is owed roughly $54m after this season while CJ is owed roughly $56m.

CJ is exactly what Orlando needs and there’d be no one else he’d have to differ to. It’d be his team. They’re also not a free agent destination so their best bet to land an impact scorer is through trade. Gordon isn’t the scorer CJ is but he gives us someone that can contribute on both ends and profiles well with Nurk and Collins. Orlando could have a front court of Vucevic, Bamba, and Isaac, making Gordon expendable.
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How about CJ and Wade for Gordon and Simmons
 
Scalma said:
This has been thrown around but I’m coming around to it. CJ for Aaron Gordon. Orlando would have to add something else, but financially it’s pretty even. Gordon is owed roughly $54m after this season while CJ is owed roughly $56m.

CJ is exactly what Orlando needs and there’d be no one else he’d have to differ to. It’d be his team. They’re also not a free agent destination so their best bet to land an impact scorer is through trade. Gordon isn’t the scorer CJ is but he gives us someone that can contribute on both ends and profiles well with Nurk and Collins. Orlando could have a front court of Vucevic, Bamba, and Isaac, making Gordon expendable.
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I proposed Gordon a few months back. Gordon and Fournier (Ross would be a lot cheaper) would be ideal. Give em CJ/Aminu/Simons.
 
Chris Craig said:
How about CJ and Wade for Gordon and Simmons
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Sure. Simmons only has a million guaranteed next year.

There are also trades there for us with Orlando that doesn’t include CJ. Ross would really help our second unit, and is an expiring. Prime candidate for a Leonard/pick package.
 
Chris Craig said:
He would be an allstar in the east
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Kyle Lowry, Khris Middleton, Victor Oladipo, Ben Simmons, Jimmy Butler, Kyrie Irving, Jayson Tatum, Kemba Walker, Bradley Beal, John Wall

5 guards in all-star game and there's 10 on that list, all arguably better than CJ, most by quite a bit.

you can try and slide Butler and/or Tatum and Middleton to SF....but Giannis and Kawhi are already taking 2 of those slots

CJ would NOT be anything close to an automatic all-star in the east.
 
Next up is the Chicago Bulls. Yet another poor fit trade wise for CJ unless we're talking salary dump (which I want to clearly state I am not advocating). The only real thing to consider would be if they were willing to take both Turner and Leonard with CJ but then it gets messy with roster spots. I would love to get their 1st round pick but right now it's 4th so I seriously doubt they'd give that up for CJ. However this is the best I can come up with for the Bulls:

Bulls get CJ, Turner, Leonard, Swanigan, and Stauskas

Blazers get Jabari Parker, Robin Lopez, Justin Holiday, Kris Dunn, Bobby Portis, and Chandler Hutchison (or Denzel Valentine)

This trade would save the Blazers $10 million this year dropping them well below the tax line. Parker (Team Option), Lopez (Bird Rights), Holiday, and Portis (RFA Bird Rights) are all expiring. Portis could be retained and it gives us two young assets in Dunn and Hutchison (or Valentine) for the future. This would put our total guaranteed salary for next year down to $73,891,602 with Dame, Nurk, Harkless, Collins, Simons, Trent, Dunn, and Hutchison plus our 1st round pick. Re-sign Portis and then fill out the roster by going hard after secondary free agents while other teams chase the big names (Middleton, Tobias, Tyreke, JJ Redick?). Once again please don't tell me about how Portland doesn't get free agents, I know the drill. This is super crazy but would have a very slim chance of working out into something really good.
 
hoopsjock said:
Next up is the Chicago Bulls. Yet another poor fit trade wise for CJ unless we're talking salary dump (which I want to clearly state I am not advocating). The only real thing to consider would be if they were willing to take both Turner and Leonard with CJ but then it gets messy with roster spots. I would love to get their 1st round pick but right now it's 4th so I seriously doubt they'd give that up for CJ. However this is the best I can come up with for the Bulls:

Bulls get CJ, Turner, Leonard, Swanigan, and Stauskas

Blazers get Jabari Parker, Robin Lopez, Justin Holiday, Kris Dunn, Bobby Portis, and Chandler Hutchison (or Denzel Valentine)

This trade would save the Blazers $10 million this year dropping them well below the tax line. Parker (Team Option), Lopez (Bird Rights), Holiday, and Portis (RFA Bird Rights) are all expiring. Portis could be retained and it gives us two young assets in Dunn and Hutchison (or Valentine) for the future. This would put our total guaranteed salary for next year down to $73,891,602 with Dame, Nurk, Harkless, Collins, Simons, Trent, Dunn, and Hutchison plus our 1st round pick. Re-sign Portis and then fill out the roster by going hard after secondary free agents while other teams chase the big names (Middleton, Tobias, Tyreke, JJ Redick?). Once again please don't tell me about how Portland doesn't get free agents, I know the drill. This is super crazy but would have a very slim chance of working out into something really good.
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The only big name free agent I think we'd have a chance at landing this summer is DeMarcus Cousins.
 
BonesJones said:
The only big name free agent I think we'd have a chance at landing this summer is DeMarcus Cousins.
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Yeah, which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense with Nurk and their agent being the same. I just have a funny feeling this summer is going to be different than most with so much of the league being free agents. Only the Lakers, 76ers, Pacers, and Clippers would be really good teams with potentially more cap space but for some of those teams to get that cap space they have to let guys like Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris go. I could of course be dead wrong but having cap space could open up taking on guys from teams that are trying to get more cap space or are changing direction like an Otto Porter, Bradley Beal, Gordon Hayward, or Blake Griffin type in a lopsided trade.
 
hoopsjock said:
Yeah, which wouldn't make a whole lot of sense with Nurk and their agent being the same. I just have a funny feeling this summer is going to be different than most with so much of the league being free agents. Only the Lakers, 76ers, Pacers, and Clippers would be really good teams with potentially more cap space but for some of those teams to get that cap space they have to let guys like Jimmy Butler and Tobias Harris go. I could of course be dead wrong but having cap space could open up taking on guys from teams that are trying to get more cap space or are changing direction like an Otto Porter, Bradley Beal, Gordon Hayward, or Blake Griffin type in a lopsided trade.
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Meh, I think theres be a workaround with trading Nurkic since he got his contract already. His agent got his cut now.

Of course wed likely have to trade CJ but if we could get Brogdon and Hill for CJ like I said then use picks to shed ET/Meyers, then I think we'd be in business.
 
BonesJones said:
Meh, I think theres be a workaround with trading Nurkic since he got his contract already. His agent got his cut now.

Of course wed likely have to trade CJ but if we could get Brogdon and Hill for CJ like I said then use picks to shed ET/Meyers, then I think we'd be in business.
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You think Neil is ever going to do that?
 
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