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Fittingly the Orlando Magic are up next. Like the Knicks they are a team that I think CJ would thrive playing on as he would unquestionably be their primary ball handler and scorer. Last year I heard their GM actually say that they wanted to shift from focusing on the draft to more proven players. They didn't end up going that route but I wonder if struggling through another season would lead to them going for options like CJ versus the draft. I love Bamba's potential but I'm going to guess/assume that he is off the table in a CJ trade, plus getting back a center as the key piece of a CJ trade doesn't make a ton of sense to me with Nurk already manning that position. I wouldn't mind getting Isaac but his playing style is so passive that I wouldn't want to give up something good to bring him in and I don't think Orlando would just throw him in a deal either.

Just for @yuyuza1: CJ for Aaron Gordon. I personally wouldn't do this trade. I think Gordon in theory should be better than he is and that in his 5th season maybe he is more hype and flash than actually a good basketball player. If we're trading CJ because of a lack of shooting efficiency it doesn't make sense to me to bring in a less efficient player. I can maybe be swayed on this a little given that getting him out of that horrible situation in Orlando might be all he needs to excel because he does have the physical skills needed to be a star. I have to question his work ethic if he isn't improving but he is still only 23 and could still pop. If we're wrong and he is the same player he is in Orlando then we threw CJ away in my opinion.

CJ, Swanigan, and Stuaskas for Evan Fournier, Terrance Ross, and 2019 1st (Top-5) protected. Fournier is having a really bad year and isn't as good as CJ but in theory he could at least play a role similar to CJ and his passing is more aligned with CJ's in his best year, but still a step down. His contract is a flat $17 million a season for the same length as CJ's so it's $10+ million and $12+ million less than CJ's the next two years. Is that amount of savings worth the dip in production? Ross would be an okay stop gap at wing for the rest of the season and we would have his bird rights if he played well enough to warrant keeping him. Until this year he hasn't been worth the money either though. I'd probably pass on this trade too but I do love acquiring potential lottery picks so I wouldn't hate it either.

Super Crazy Trade Alert: CJ and Swanigan for Timofey Mozgov, Jonathon Simmons, Orlando 2019 1st (currently 7th), Orlando 2019 2nd (via Cleveland currently 31st), Orlando 2019 2nd (via Brooklyn currently 45), and Orlando 2021 1st. We'd probably be a lot worse off the rest of this season but would have 2 1sts and 2 2nds plus another future 1st to really boost our ability to either move up for a real difference maker in the draft or to use as trade assets. This would be super risky, especially if CJ sparked Orlando on a run at the end of the season but it is also the type of risk that could turn into Zion if we got lucky. I doubt anything like this would ever happen but for those that don't like being a treadmill team this type of trade would be one way to get over the top or slip and knock our head on the treadmill.
 
Fittingly the Orlando Magic are up next. Like the Knicks they are a team that I think CJ would thrive playing on as he would unquestionably be their primary ball handler and scorer. Last year I heard their GM actually say that they wanted to shift from focusing on the draft to more proven players. They didn't end up going that route but I wonder if struggling through another season would lead to them going for options like CJ versus the draft. I love Bamba's potential but I'm going to guess/assume that he is off the table in a CJ trade, plus getting back a center as the key piece of a CJ trade doesn't make a ton of sense to me with Nurk already manning that position. I wouldn't mind getting Isaac but his playing style is so passive that I wouldn't want to give up something good to bring him in and I don't think Orlando would just throw him in a deal either.

Just for @yuyuza1: CJ for Aaron Gordon. I personally wouldn't do this trade. I think Gordon in theory should be better than he is and that in his 5th season maybe he is more hype and flash than actually a good basketball player. If we're trading CJ because of a lack of shooting efficiency it doesn't make sense to me to bring in a less efficient player. I can maybe be swayed on this a little given that getting him out of that horrible situation in Orlando might be all he needs to excel because he does have the physical skills needed to be a star. I have to question his work ethic if he isn't improving but he is still only 23 and could still pop. If we're wrong and he is the same player he is in Orlando then we threw CJ away in my opinion.

CJ, Swanigan, and Stuaskas for Evan Fournier, Terrance Ross, and 2019 1st (Top-5) protected. Fournier is having a really bad year and isn't as good as CJ but in theory he could at least play a role similar to CJ and his passing is more aligned with CJ's in his best year, but still a step down. His contract is a flat $17 million a season for the same length as CJ's so it's $10+ million and $12+ million less than CJ's the next two years. Is that amount of savings worth the dip in production? Ross would be an okay stop gap at wing for the rest of the season and we would have his bird rights if he played well enough to warrant keeping him. Until this year he hasn't been worth the money either though. I'd probably pass on this trade too but I do love acquiring potential lottery picks so I wouldn't hate it either.

Super Crazy Trade Alert: CJ and Swanigan for Timofey Mozgov, Jonathon Simmons, Orlando 2019 1st (currently 7th), Orlando 2019 2nd (via Cleveland currently 31st), Orlando 2019 2nd (via Brooklyn currently 45), and Orlando 2021 1st. We'd probably be a lot worse off the rest of this season but would have 2 1sts and 2 2nds plus another future 1st to really boost our ability to either move up for a real difference maker in the draft or to use as trade assets. This would be super risky, especially if CJ sparked Orlando on a run at the end of the season but it is also the type of risk that could turn into Zion if we got lucky. I doubt anything like this would ever happen but for those that don't like being a treadmill team this type of trade would be one way to get over the top or slip and knock our head on the treadmill.
This makes sense for us (and saves us like $7mil/season). Not sure it makes sense for them, but screw it, this is a Blazers Forum!
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According to a reddit poster, Blazers, Sixers and Thunder are interested in Taurean Prince from Atlanta. Edit: i just listened to the Podcast, and it's true, the Blazers, Sixers and Thunder could be interested in Prince, we'll see Screenshot_20190111-170744_Reddit.jpg
 
Prince has bee one of my targets since last yr. His development has stagnated this yr tho and he's older than you'd think. I wouldn't trade much for him now, not completely unsure if he's better than Layman
 
According to a reddit poster, Blazers, Sixers and Thunder are interested in Taurean Prince from Atlanta. Edit: i just listened to the Podcast, and it's true, the Blazers, Sixers and Thunder could be interested in Prince, we'll see View attachment 24211


This rumor is 100% true.
I’m going to be very vague so I don’t blow up my buddies spot but...a close friend of mine works in the NBA and has had a close relationship with prince. The blazers are doing their homework on prince and are definitely interested
 
This rumor is 100% true.
I’m going to be very vague so I don’t blow up my buddies spot but...a close friend of mine works in the NBA and has had a close relationship with prince. The blazers are doing their homework on prince and are definitely interested

That’s interesting because earlier this season Zach Lowe brought up Prince when talking about blazers targets. I think it was on a podcast but could’ve been an article, not sure, but he definitely said it. O’Connor has also reported on Blazers stuff before anyone else.
 
Taurean Prince seems like a typical Olshey move: low risk messing around with the lower end of the rotation in moves almost certain to NOT move any needle. Also, if the goal is to replace Harkless as the starting SF, it's even more a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense. The next time Olshey trades or drafts defense will be the first time.

I guess it would be change, which would at least be interesting. I don't know how the Blazers make the trade work though with Prince's 2.5M salary.

Curry for Prince? why would Atlanta do that?

Meyers + 1st for Dedmon & Prince?

Evan Turner + 1st for Jeremy Lin + Prince....I'd definitely do that one if the 1st was at least lottery protected

by the way, I'm definitely one of those who don't put a lot of value on Portland's 1st round pick. Sure, it has some value but too many people squeeze that pick like it's a silver dollar when it's more like a quarter. Right now, Portland has the 22nd pick
 
Taurean Prince seems like a typical Olshey move: low risk messing around with the lower end of the rotation in moves almost certain to NOT move any needle. Also, if the goal is to replace Harkless as the starting SF, it's even more a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense. The next time Olshey trades or drafts defense will be the first time.

I guess it would be change, which would at least be interesting. I don't know how the Blazers make the trade work though with Prince's 2.5M salary.

Curry for Prince? why would Atlanta do that?

Meyers + 1st for Dedmon & Prince?

Evan Turner + 1st for Jeremy Lin + Prince....I'd definitely do that one if the 1st was at least lottery protected

by the way, I'm definitely one of those who don't put a lot of value on Portland's 1st round pick. Sure, it has some value but too many people squeeze that pick like it's a silver dollar when it's more like a quarter. Right now, Portland has the 22nd pick

You don't like Aminu's defense? You don't like Nurk's defense? You don't like Harkless's defense?
 
You don't like Aminu's defense? You don't like Nurk's defense? You don't like Harkless's defense?

Aminu was signed

Harkless and Nurkic were Olshey dumpster diving and their potential defense was ancillary to the trades Olshey was making, especially considering he would have traded for Okafor if Denver hadn't added the first. Defense wasn't the goal, but sure, it came with the package so I guess he 'traded for it'

Olshey may have been thinking about defense when he drafted Collins though. He certainly wasn't when he let Davis walk and signed Curry and Stauskas after drafting Simons and Trent
 
Aminu was signed

Harkless and Nurkic were Olshey dumpster diving and their potential defense was ancillary to the trades Olshey was making, especially considering he would have traded for Okafor if Denver hadn't added the first. Defense wasn't the goal, but sure, it came with the package so I guess he 'traded for it'

Olshey may have been thinking about defense when he drafted Collins though. He certainly wasn't when he let Davis walk and signed Curry and Stauskas after drafting Simons and Trent

Turner- defensive player
Harkless- defensive player
Aminu- defensive player
Nurkic- defensive player
Collins- defensive player

spin it whatever way you want, but those are all acquisitions Olshey has brought to the team in the last few years and all play a significant role in the rotation and play solid defense.
 
Turner- defensive player
Harkless- defensive player
Aminu- defensive player
Nurkic- defensive player
Collins- defensive player

spin it whatever way you want, but those are all acquisitions Olshey has brought to the team in the last few years and all play a significant role in the rotation and play solid defense.

read what I said....'trade or draft' so that eliminates Aminu and Turner...and Davis by the way. AFAIC, Collins may be the only one when the goal was defense. The goal for Nurkic was punting a QO a year down the road. The goal for Harkless was simply 'hey look what I found in the dumpster'. And if Portland trades for Prince they'd be replacing good defense with worse defense...but maybe the knee of Harkless is worse then we know
 
read what I said....'trade or draft' so that eliminates Aminu and Turner...and Davis by the way. AFAIC, Collins may be the only one when the goal was defense. The goal for Nurkic was punting a QO a year down the road. The goal for Harkless was simply 'hey look what I found in the dumpster'. And if Portland trades for Prince they'd be replacing good defense with worse defense...but maybe the knee of Harkless is worse then we know

Like I said, spin it any way you want, but an acquisition is an acquisition regardless of how it was accomplished. I know you like to bash Olshey for everything and probably including climate change, but cherry picking is cherry picking.
 
So Olshey is good at acquiring good defensive players but not during draft or trade. He is good at it in free agency. Ugh. When Olshey acquires someone who is shitty its "Olshey sucks he went out and got a bad player" or "a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense.". When he gets someone who is good or plays defense its "well that was on accident". Harkless was dumpster diving - but he picked that particular dumpster, maybe because he thought Mo could defend. And he just lucked into Nurk being able to defend?
 
So Olshey is good at acquiring good defensive players but not during draft or trade. He is good at it in free agency. Ugh. When Olshey acquires someone who is shitty its "Olshey sucks he went out and got a bad player" or "a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense.". When he gets someone who is good or plays defense its "well that was on accident". Harkless was dumpster diving - but he picked that particular dumpster, maybe because he thought Mo could defend. And he just lucked into Nurk being able to defend?
This is such a pedantic convo. So much nitpicking.
 
CBS Sports had an article about players that needed to be traded. There are no Blazers on the list but for Hassan Whiteside they list Portland as one of 3 potential suitors.

We need a wing, not a center!
If Meyers goes...we'll need a center...and still need a wing
 
If Meyers goes...we'll need a center...and still need a wing
With Meyers here Zach should probably play Center at least if he’s not going to start. If he starts he needs to play PF. Meyers has been much better this year, not denying that but Having him and Zach out there usually means one of them has to play peremiter defense...

Anyways Go Blazers!!!
 
Like I said, spin it any way you want, but an acquisition is an acquisition regardless of how it was accomplished. I know you like to bash Olshey for everything and probably including climate change, but cherry picking is cherry picking.

And you like to bash Olshey critics. It's your hobby.
 
Taurean Prince seems like a typical Olshey move: low risk messing around with the lower end of the rotation in moves almost certain to NOT move any needle. Also, if the goal is to replace Harkless as the starting SF, it's even more a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense. The next time Olshey trades or drafts defense will be the first time.
You don't like Aminu's defense? You don't like Nurk's defense? You don't like Harkless's defense?
He said that Harkless plays good defense.
 
Jaylen Brown and Marcus Morris got into a confrontation during their loss to Miami. Could locker-room friction and frustration push the Celts to consider trades?
 
CBS Sports. It was caught on film, so it wasn't the product of someone's imagination. FWIW, it started as a verbal confrontation and Morris escalated to putting his hands on Brown.
I saw it (the video), I was just stating that your post read like a news article. Im not even stating if thats good or bad, just how I read it.
 
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