Trade Ideas

[blazerkor]

Those are the guys we need for sure. Who knows what Toronto wants to do? And do you think Miami would give up 2 FRP just to get rid of Robinson's contract?

It's not only to get rid of Robinson's contract but there have been several reports that they are very interested in Josh. They get the guy they want and get rid of the contract they don't. Orlando gets two FRPs for guys that have both have a couple of young guys playing in front of them and because most of there team is just starting on rookie deals a bad contract isn't really going to hurt them.

 

[Pinwheel1]

It seems to me that Toronto, who seems like they want to go young and who already has OG, Boucher, Achiuwa, and Barnes.....that they might want to dump the contracts of either Otto Porter or Thad Young instead of Koloko. So maybe Nurk, Ant, and filler for Siakam. I would much rather have Koloko but that might be too much.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

OG would solve so many issues - especially on this end

My problem is if you give up Simons then we just create a new problem. Simons offense takes a ton of pressure off Dame and 3pt shooting seems to be huge key to winning in todays NBA. Unless you’re getting a superstar in the deal Simons should be off the table. That leaves Sharpe as your key piece in any big trade. Makes me sick to even think about trading him if we do we better get a difference maker back better than Dale Davis

 

[blazerkor]

My problem is if you give up Simons then we just create a new problem. Simons offense takes a ton of pressure off Dame and 3pt shooting seems to be huge key to winning in todays NBA. Unless you’re getting a superstar in the deal Simons should be off the table. That leaves Sharpe as your key piece in any big trade. Makes me sick to even think about trading him if we do we better get a difference maker back better than Dale Davis

I really think that Jerami could be a more effective pressure release valve than Ant... I don't think OG is ultimately the answer to our problems but if Ant got us OG without giving up any draft assets, we could still move Nurk, Hart and all of our picks for a second star maybe have to include GP2 to match salaries.

 

[sheed30]

I really think that Jerami could be a more effective pressure release valve than Ant... I don't think OG is ultimately the answer to our problems but if Ant got us OG without giving up any draft assets, we could still move Nurk, Hart and all of our picks for a second star maybe have to include GP2 to match salaries.

Ant for OG is a bad trade, you don't trade Ant unless you can get a star player.

Nurk, Hart, and all our picks won't get us a star. Wishful thinking

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Can we get Mikal Bridges?

I know, I know - why would the Nets give up the centerpiece of their Durant trade? Well, because he was just the best player they could get from the Suns, but they'd actually like another player more? I mean, if we're creaming our jeans over O.G. Anunoby - isn't Bridges better at just about everything, as well as being an iron man where Anunoby is always injured? And can't you see Anfernee scoring in bunches for the Nets?

Of course, the Nets already have Cam Thomas, who is another undersized gunner in the Anfernee mold, so that's a problem. But trading Anfernee for Bridges is at least more likely now than it was when he was on the Suns, and it would balance up our team perfectly (and make me feel better after that stupid Josh Hart trade, and that's the main concern the GM should have).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Send the Nets this: https://theathletic.com/3718257/2022/10/22/blazers-suns-simons-lillard-bridges/

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Nice merge, thread police. I bet I can guess which mod it was.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Nice merge, thread police. I bet I can guess which mod it was.

Nope, you guessed wrong.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Can we get Mikal Bridges?

I know, I know - why would the Nets give up the centerpiece of their Durant trade? Well, because he was just the best player they could get from the Suns, but they'd actually like another player more? I mean, if we're creaming our jeans over O.G. Anunoby - isn't Bridges better at just about everything, as well as being an iron man where Anunoby is always injured? And can't you see Anfernee scoring in bunches for the Nets?

Of course, the Nets already have Cam Thomas, who is another undersized gunner in the Anfernee mold, so that's a problem. But trading Anfernee for Bridges is at least more likely now than it was when he was on the Suns, and it would balance up our team perfectly (and make me feel better after that stupid Josh Hart trade, and that's the main concern the GM should have).

If this is correct, I would say that no, we cannot.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Alternatively, I would seriously be interested in Cam Johnson. So far we've only acquired the least Cam. (If the Nets did that trade, then Johnson would go from being the second Cam on one team to the second Cam on another.)

What would people think about a Nas for Cam Johnson trade? We get bigger (Johnson was starting at PF for them last year, right?), the Nets get three years younger and a player who was much more hyped coming out of college, as well as a player who's signed long term with a very reasonable contract.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

If this is correct, I would say that no, we cannot.

1. "up to"
2. Different teams value different players differently. Maybe (MAYBE) the Nets value Anfernee at "up to" 3 FR picks too.

Yeah, doesn't seem likely, but a man can dream. I mean, if you were an expansion team (and the Nets essentially are right now), wouldn't you go for Anfernee over Bridges? I mean, Bridges is obviously BETTER, but he's not better at scoring-in-bunches and looking spectacular. Bridges is essentially an elite role player, whereas Anfernee is a poor man's star.

Sidenote: if I were the Thunder, sitting on approximately 6 squillion picks, I'd be seriously tempted to swoop in for Mikal. Hell, offer 4 picks, why not?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Nope, you guessed wrong.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

1. "up to"
2. Different teams value different players differently. Maybe (MAYBE) the Nets value Anfernee at "up to" 3 FR picks too.

Yeah, doesn't seem likely, but a man can dream. I mean, if you were an expansion team (and the Nets essentially are right now), wouldn't you go for Anfernee over Bridges? I mean, Bridges is obviously BETTER, but he's not better at scoring-in-bunches and looking spectacular. Bridges is essentially an elite role player, whereas Anfernee is a poor man's star.

Sidenote: if I were the Thunder, sitting on approximately 6 squillion picks, I'd be seriously tempted to swoop in for Mikal. Hell, offer 4 picks, why not?

If I were the Nets, I would be satisfied with my backcourt scoring ability with Thomas and Dinwiddie, and wouldn't have any inclination to add Simons.

I do agree with you that the Thunder would be wise to start investing their picks in young talent like Bridges.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Alternatively, I would seriously be interested in Cam Johnson. So far we've only acquired the least Cam. (If the Nets did that trade, then Johnson would go from being the second Cam on one team to the second Cam on another.)

What would people think about a Nas for Cam Johnson trade? We get bigger (Johnson was starting at PF for them last year, right?), the Nets get three years younger and a player who was much more hyped coming out of college, as well as a player who's signed long term with a very reasonable contract.

I just looked him up on the EPM ranking and he's 25th IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE (by contrast, Mikal Bridges is 80th). Now I'm going to be mad when we don't get him.

 

[LayneStaley]

Just saw a trade proposal, Ant/Sharpe/2025 1st for Mikal Bridges. Yay or nay?

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Nay

 

[Natebishop3]

Just saw a trade proposal, Ant/Sharpe/2025 1st for Mikal Bridges. Yay or nay?

Nope. That's too steep for a guy who isn't a star yet.

 

[wizenheimer]

Just saw a trade proposal, Ant/Sharpe/2025 1st for Mikal Bridges. Yay or nay?

Ant + a first, yes, for sure. Adding Sharpe kills it for me and yeah, I understand that Sharpe might not ever put it all together

 

[wizenheimer]

My problem is if you give up Simons then we just create a new problem. Simons offense takes a ton of pressure off Dame and 3pt shooting seems to be huge key to winning in todays NBA. Unless you’re getting a superstar in the deal Simons should be off the table. That leaves Sharpe as your key piece in any big trade. Makes me sick to even think about trading him if we do we better get a difference maker back better than Dale Davis

Dame didn't need Simons around to score 71...

anyway, maybe it's just semantics and a subjective definition of "superstar", but the idea Portland Simons should be "off the table for anybody but a superstar" seems insane to me. Dame is a superstar; guys like Simons and CJ are at least a couple of tiers below superstar level. Superstar is a pretty exclusive club

Siakam isn't a superstar but if the Blazers could upgrade from Ant to Siakam they'be be fools not to. Mikal Bridges isn't even an all-star, yet, but it would be a slam-dunk to trade Ant for Bridges. Ant for Jrue? yes please. Same with Myles Turner; or Jaren Jackson; or even possibly OG. Malcolm Brogdon? Anthony Edwards? Tyler Herro?

again. maybe this is just semantics

 

[julius]

Tyler Herro?

How exactly is he an upgrade?

 

[Natebishop3]

Tyler Herro?

How exactly is he an upgrade?

Herro you say?

 

[wizenheimer]

Tyler Herro?

How exactly is he an upgrade?

I didn't say he was...thus the '?' He's probably lateral to Ant. Might be a better defender. But when I look at it, he's more expensive, so no

 

[UKBlazer]

Our most logical trade asset is clearly Ant so any big moves should be cantered around Simons. Bad fit for Dame, but great shooter and will be attractive to other NBA teams.

The question is just how valuable the rest of the NBA sees him? Some of the names mentioned on this board, OG, Bridges, Siakam etc. I feel fairly certain Ant alone would not cut it and we'd need to include picks + other talent. And even then, there are a lot of small guards who can fill it up but can't defend in this league, so going all for Simons makes little sense for most franchises in the league.

We have an issue in that there are too many areas of the roster than need an upgrade. The backcourt lacks balance and the frontcourt lacks rebounding/size/depth.

They should be looking for an NBA starting 2-way wing in the OG/Bridges mould, and frontcourt players who offer defence/ rebounding/size who could potentially replace Nurk in the near future. It'll likely take more than one trade window to fix these issues.

For me it's a question of addressing either the backcourt or the frontcourt in the summer and kicking the other into the long grass until the deadline/next year. I think the direction they take will depend on who is available in the market, and who they like in the draft.

 

[Samuel]

Our most logical trade asset is clearly Ant so any big moves should be cantered around Simons. Bad fit for Dame, but great shooter and will be attractive to other NBA teams.

The question is just how valuable the rest of the NBA sees him? Some of the names mentioned on this board, OG, Bridges, Siakam etc. I feel fairly certain Ant alone would not cut it and we'd need to include picks + other talent. And even then, there are a lot of small guards who can fill it up but can't defend in this league, so going all for Simons makes little sense for most franchises in the league.

We have an issue in that there are too many areas of the roster than need an upgrade. The backcourt lacks balance and the frontcourt lacks rebounding/size/depth.

They should be looking for an NBA starting 2-way wing in the OG/Bridges mould, and frontcourt players who offer defence/ rebounding/size who could potentially replace Nurk in the near future. It'll likely take more than one trade window to fix these issues.

For me it's a question of addressing either the backcourt or the frontcourt in the summer and kicking the other into the long grass until the deadline/next year. I think the direction they take will depend on who is available in the market, and who they like in the draft.

the issue is that Portland is trying to trade something that is less rare—a good volume shooter who is at best a slight negative defensively—for something that is more rare—a two way wing, or, a two way big.

him being 23 helps—but then you need to target someone a bit older.

ant will have value but his position and defensive limitations won’t help cronin as an asset. I am guessing cronin is holding out for a trade where he doesn’t have to attach much sweetener to ant. Moving ant plus a boat of picks would be tough from an asset management standpoint.