Trade Lillard now

[blazerkor]

Dame doesn't even get talked about that article. Just a mention of receiving some votes. He's barely in the running.

We'll see, if Dame's numbers continue to be where they've been since he got back from his injury, things will change and there's a month of games between now and when they name the all star reserves. I'm not going to be mad if Dame is left off because of how shitty the team has been so far this season but I'm still pulling for him. I'm a big Dame fan. Despite you mentioning Sheed who I love, Dame has been the best superstar to this team and fan base that we've ever known.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Memphis isn't just a playoff team too. They are starting to pull away as the #4 seed. Yeah, I can see the coaches talking.... let's see... Memphis has a top 4 record in the West and their star player Ja Morant is Top 10 in the entire NBA in PER. I have a better idea... let's give it to Dame who is having an awful year (50th in PER), has been shooting his team out of games resulting in losses, is lazy on D resulting in more losses...... let me look at team record one more time.... the Grizzlies are 23-14 and the Blazers are 13-22. Okay, let's go with Dame. Ummm not.

Yep. It is fine that Dame misses an all star game. Players have down years. Doesn't take away anything he has accomplished.

Ja is just better so far this year. Zero chance Dame makes it over Ja unless he was voted in by fans.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

We'll see, if Dame's numbers continue to be where they've been since he got back from his injury, things will change and there's a month of games between now and when they name the all star reserves. I'm not going to be mad if Dame is left off because of how shitty the team has been so far this season but I'm still pulling for him. I'm a big Dame fan. Despite you mentioning Sheed who I love, Dame has been the best superstar to this team and fan base that we've ever known.

Dame is great but that is arguable. Clyde Drexler is a top 75 player of all time and is above Dame on the actual rankings of best all time at the moment. He led us to two finals appearances too.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

We'll see, if Dame's numbers continue to be where they've been since he got back from his injury, things will change and there's a month of games between now and when they name the all star reserves. I'm not going to be mad if Dame is left off because of how shitty the team has been so far this season but I'm still pulling for him. I'm a big Dame fan. Despite you mentioning Sheed who I love, Dame has been the best superstar to this team and fan base that we've ever known.

I actually agree with everything you said in this post. Never said I wasn't rooting for the guy.

 

[swish3]

Let;s make sure that Dame does get the strongest fan support that we can manage! Vote for him today and every day!

 

[PHXBlazer1]

I just want some hope! Whether it’s retool around Dame or tank for a pick just fucking do something so I know which direction we’re going!! Then I’ll know how to watch the games! Still gonna watch either way

 

[Bingo Bango]

If you trade him, what are the odds you get a player of his caliber back that wants to stay in Portland. Ben Simmons doesn't want to be in Portland. He has made it clear, at least in the past, that he wants California. So you trade for him, and he leaves as a FA or (shocker) demands a trade. You think he will all of a sudden act like a different guy once he lands in depressing Portland? He would fucking hate life as a blazer.

That means you gamble on young talent/picks. Again, what is the likelihood they a) will be all star level in a few years (I say 1 in 10), and b) most importantly, want to stay in portland (I say 1 in 10 again).

Even if we are generous and say 25% chance for each scenario, that's still just a bit better than a 10% chance you do as well as Dame if you trade him. 10% chance is generous IMHO. You won't get the talent, loyalty, and character in a single guy. Odds become very very small.

You are better off keeping him and using his loyalty to attract players that want to be in Portland.

Honor his loyalty, don't fuck him over. He says time and again he wants to be here. Keep him. The odds are, you won't do better than Dame if you deal him.

I love Lillard. He’s been a star for us since he entered the league. And I love his loyalty, which is rare these days. But Portland hasn’t even come close to a championship since he’s been here. You may be right that we won’t get anyone better than him in return, but I’m willing to take that chance because this Blazer team is going nowhere. Trading Lillard is the best chance we have to remake the team and get out of this rut we’re in. If you’re the kind of fan who values player loyalty over championships, then maybe you are fine with the status quo. I am not.

 

[Labinot41]

I think we have larger problems than Dame beeing an All-Star or not. Today i would say he doesn't deserve to be an All Star this year but things can change in a month. But i doubt it, he's just been awful this year and i dont think a change of number from 2021 to 2022 is gonna change that

 

[Bingo Bango]

Are the Blazers getting ready to move Lillard? They’re holding him out of tonight’s game.

 

[RR7]

No

 

[riverman]

Are the Blazers getting ready to move Lillard? They’re holding him out of tonight’s game.

no but they're trying like hell to build some trade value off the banch

 

[Lanny]

Are the Blazers getting ready to move Lillard? They’re holding him out of tonight’s game.

No, Lillard is a very popular fixture. Here to stay.

 

[wizenheimer]

That’s bullshit. We won two incredibly competitive playoff series. I think the road team has won a Game 7 on the road like about 30 times. We’re one of them. ”

talk about bullshit

yeah, it's true, technically, but the real context is Portland got swept in the very next series rendering that game 7 win virtually meaningless. More than that, the next time those two teams met in the playoffs, Denver was injured and still won 4-2. That's when Dame, the guy you're trashing in this thread, averaged 34 & 10 but got no support at all from his role-playing teammates

 

[illmatic99]

did anyone else catch Quick on the richman pod talking about this drama? some backstory...

He said Dame walked up to him before the Hornets game and asked Quick if he wrote that Portland should trade Dame. To which, Quick responded that they should explore all options which includes moving him. Apparently, Dame just turned and walked away and he hasn't spoken since. Kinda made it seem on the pod like Dame was acting like a diva and is frustrated with how he's playing so he's taking it out on the media this year.

to Quick's credit, he repeatedly said he doesn't want to make the situation worse by talking about it and hates that he's part of the story.

 

[blazerkor]

did anyone else catch Quick on the richman pod talking about this drama? some backstory...

He said Dame walked up to him before the Hornets game and asked Quick if he wrote that Portland should trade Dame. To which, Quick responded that they should explore all options which includes moving him. Apparently, Dame just turned and walked away and he hasn't spoken since. Kinda made it seem on the pod like Dame was acting like a diva and is frustrated with how he's playing so he's taking it out on the media this year.

to Quick's credit, he repeatedly said he doesn't want to make the situation worse by talking about it and hates that he's part of the story.

As he was talking about it further injecting himself into the story.

 

[illmatic99]

As he was talking about it further injecting himself into the story.

to be fair, he was asked/goaded into talking about it. didn't bring it up willingly either.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

So if that is true, it is ok for Dame to have dinner with Lebron and AD trying to convince him to want to be in a superteam, but Dame would not be ok with the team exploring all options, including potentially moving him?

Nice.

 

[Chris Craig]

did anyone else catch Quick on the richman pod talking about this drama? some backstory...

He said Dame walked up to him before the Hornets game and asked Quick if he wrote that Portland should trade Dame. To which, Quick responded that they should explore all options which includes moving him. Apparently, Dame just turned and walked away and he hasn't spoken since. Kinda made it seem on the pod like Dame was acting like a diva and is frustrated with how he's playing so he's taking it out on the media this year.

to Quick's credit, he repeatedly said he doesn't want to make the situation worse by talking about it and hates that he's part of the story.

Being a diva? Quick is writing articles about him being traded. He has had to deal with the media making shit up all season about him wanting out. It makes sense he wouldn't be happy with that.

Seems like it was a dick move by Quick

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

Being a diva? Quick is writing articles about him being traded. He has had to deal with the media making shit up all season about him wanting out. It makes sense he wouldn't be happy with that.

Seems like it was a dick move by Quick

Not the first or the last one.

 

[riverman]

So if that is true, it is ok for Dame to have dinner with Lebron and AD trying to convince him to want to be in a superteam, but Dame would not be ok with the team exploring all options, including potentially moving him?

Nice.

It's not unusual nor a stretch that Dame in the off season had dinner at Lebron's....they had a movie debut together ...Lebron has picked Dame for his allstar team twice and they're friendly...he probably also had dinner with Lil Wayne and Snoop Dog....people made a whole lot of nothing over this story and according to Dame he didn't pursue a change of teams anyway. After yet another declaration of loyalty and his daily meetings with Chauncey about improvements...for Quick to throw out that clickbait was purely kicking a guy just coming out of his first real slump in his career...I don't blame Dame at all for his reaction...mine was the same when I heard Quick try to walk it back on Mike Richmans podcast....love is unconditional trust. That's what a franchise player eats for breakfast....not to be considered an expendable asset but to be considered a cornerstone of a franchise Dame has more than earned that respect

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Being a diva? Quick is writing articles about him being traded. He has had to deal with the media making shit up all season about him wanting out. It makes sense he wouldn't be happy with that.

Seems like it was a dick move by Quick

Sounds like thin skin though. It could be a trigger based on all the other stuff said about him. But writers should write on the teams best interest. Exploring all options right now is what the team should do. That doesn't necessarily mean they will or should trade him.

 

[andalusian]

Well, we only hear quick's side of the issue, if he is representing it truthfully, this one is not on quick. But, per usual you have to ask if you believe him or not.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

It's not unusual nor a stretch that Dame in the off season had dinner at Lebron's....they had a movie debut together ...Lebron has picked Dame for his allstar team twice and they're friendly...he probably also had dinner with Lil Wayne and Snoop Dog....people made a whole lot of nothing over this story and according to Dame he didn't pursue a change of teams anyway

And it is not unusual for teams to explore all options. That is a part of the gig. And writers will write about stuff like that. That doesn't mean they will trade him or Quick has anything against him. Quick can be a jerk but Canzano he is not. If we got an offer of Luka Doncic for Dame, we should explore it. Not just turn it down just because.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Let;s make sure that Dame does get the strongest fan support that we can manage! Vote for him today and every day!

Why? I don't want him to go to the all-star game.

 

[Minstrel]

Being a diva? Quick is writing articles about him being traded. He has had to deal with the media making shit up all season about him wanting out. It makes sense he wouldn't be happy with that.

Seems like it was a dick move by Quick

Quick wasn't "making things up," he was writing an opinion piece about how the Blazers should be exploring all the possibilities, including trading Lillard.

If Lillard really got upset about that, that's Lillard having very thin skin.

 

[illmatic99]

Quick wasn't "making things up," he was writing an opinion piece about how the Blazers should be exploring all the possibilities, including trading Lillard.

If Lillard really got upset about that, that's Lillard having very thin skin.

this is nothing new from dame. he was jokingly called out for having "twitter fingers" by Melo after Dame was beefing with Skip Bayless.

oddly enough, I think a lot of high level athletes are wired like this.

 

[blazerkor]

Sounds like thin skin though. It could be a trigger based on all the other stuff said about him. But writers should write on the teams best interest. Exploring all options right now is what the team should do. That doesn't necessarily mean they will or should trade him.

I think you're right that having words put in his mouth all summer by writers has probably made Dame a little more weary of any writer. Dame has just within the last couple months voiced his desire to stay with the team and build something with Chauncey, he's also said he wants to win a championship here but if he does things the way he thinks are the right way and ends up without a ring that he can live with that.

So in the midst of his worst slump in his career and one of the team's worst starts in his career Quick runs a story saying that the Blazers should seriously consider trading Dame. If I was Dame and already very weary of the intentions of writers and the local guy did that, I would see it as kicking me while I'm down and really kicking me the first time that I'd ever been down or in other words the first time it would make any sense to anyone to recommend trading Dame, Quick took the chance to do so. I wouldn't talk to that guy anymore either. Dame doesn't have an obligation to make the lives of people that kick him while he's down easier.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

talk about bullshit

yeah, it's true, technically, but the real context is Portland got swept in the very next series rendering that game 7 win virtually meaningless. More than that, the next time those two teams met in the playoffs, Denver was injured and still won 4-2. That's when Dame, the guy you're trashing in this thread, averaged 34 & 10 but got no support at all from his role-playing teammates

So if you don’t win a championship, winning a series is meaningless? I disagree.

 

[riverman]

And it is not unusual for teams to explore all options. That is a part of the gig. And writers will write about stuff like that. That doesn't mean they will trade him or Quick has anything against him. Quick can be a jerk but Canzano he is not. If we got an offer of Luka Doncic for Dame, we should explore it. Not just turn it down just because.

I disagree....Dame is a unicorn and Luka has talent but a poor work ethic..comes into camp way out of shape...I wouldn't trade Dame for Luka at all..and the GMs agree with me on this one....Dame's not on the trade table and won't be unless he demands it......story closed. Also Dame wants to be here...he's the chip that brings talented vets here for one reason only...to play with him. Why throw that away on some gamble and trade machine bs........I heard Quick's whole justification and he just lost his inside track to our star for writing a piece about trading him given the timing of his article....he wouldn't have written it if Dame were leading the MVP race this season...I promise you that...you don't kick great guys when they're down. My two cents

 

[TBpup]

Being a diva? Quick is writing articles about him being traded. He has had to deal with the media making shit up all season about him wanting out. It makes sense he wouldn't be happy with that.

Seems like it was a dick move by Quick

Quick was writing about considering all options. 'All options', by it's definition would be to CONSIDER moving Dame. He wasn't suggesting a trade, he wasn't advocation for one, he dared to offer up the possibility that something be simply considered. Then he was directly asked in a podcast about it after Dame posted the 'snake' picture.

It is getting to where people are condemned for even the idea of thinking about exploring a possibility......especially, given a situation. That seems awfully week. Then again, 'Portland', where we are offended, feel slighted, or riot about just about anything.