Trades that "move the needle"

[Blazer Fanatic]

Clearly you just lack vision.

Look, the submarine is good, but I want it to be the best. For that to happen, we need a screen mesh to cover the hatch and keep us safe from flying insects while we're scooting along the bottom of the mariana trench. To pay for this, we'll of course have to get rid of the nuclear warheads and propulsion system, as well as learn how to breath underwater, but lets focus on the big picture. No fucking flies.

WOW! I digress. I'm busted. How trollish of me to be so incredulous to what is clearly a comprehensive understanding of both championship basketball and nuclear submarine operations. Thank you noknobs. On a side note, is that ponderguy in your picture?

 

[Draco]

Melo has made every team he's been on better. The Nuggets had the same record as the Cavs the year before he and LBJ were drafted and he made the playoffs in a tougher western conference. The Knicks have had more success with him than they did with Danillo Gallinarri and Wilson Chandler.

NY had a much better record with Jeremy Lin than with Carmelo Anthony. Go ahead look it up.

Melo also would never resign here, so he would walk at the end of the season. Then the Blazers would be stuck with Barnani’s giant contract as all that is left from two quality starters and an all-star. This would be the worst trade of all time the Blazer have made and someone could argue a larger mistake than passing on Michael Jordan.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Then you using melo for nugget success is moot, if you are going to downplay their success when melo was gone. Sorry but melo doesn't make a team better. Maybe on nba jams, where you play 2-2

Please don't suggest he bases his opinion on fantasy basketball or video games, or he'll write you a nasty-gram. And yes, despite his continual efforts to prop up his straw man, we must accept that HIS definition of a straw man is "sarcasm toward an utterly ridiculous fantasy trade."

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

NY had a much better record with Jeremy Lin than with Carmelo Anthony. Go ahead look it up.

Melo also would never resign here, so he would walk at the end of the season. Then the Blazers would be stuck with Barnani’s giant contract as all that is left from two quality starters and an all-star. This would be the worst trade of all time the Blazer have made and someone could argue a larger mistake than passing on Michael Jordan.

STRAW MAN!!!! (at least as it was explained to me by that delicate genius ponderguy) Blame him if I'm way off base here.

 

[ponderguy]

Who is Melo supposed to be playing team ball with? 3 ppg A'mare? Raymond Felton? JR Smith can fill it up when he's hot but he's one of the streakiest players alive. We've seen him win Golds with the Olympic teams and happily give the ball up and play team ball when he has good teammates. He made it to the WCF when he had Billups and a healthy Nene next to him. Give him good players to play with and he adapts. HE is doing it all in NY because that is what he is being forced to do.

 

[magnifier661]

Who is Melo supposed to be playing team ball with? 3 ppg A'mare? Raymond Felton? JR Smith can fill it up when he's hot but he's one of the streakiest players alive. We've seen him win Golds with the Olympic teams and happily give the ball up and play team ball when he has good teammates. He made it to the WCF when he had Billups and a healthy Nene next to him. Give him good players to play with and he adapts. HE is doing it all in NY because that is what he is being forced to do.

He shared on the dream team because everyone was just as good or better than him. He bitched about getting the ball, then he rides the pine! Have you watched when melo went down in New York and linsanity had a great win streak? Then melo comes back and they suck again, forcing New York to not pick up linsanity.

Melo runs players out of town. The only reason why am are is still there is because of his untradable albatross contract.

And FYI, melo was pissed about JR Smith coming to New York. Why? Because he knew Smith hogs the ball just like him.

Regardless, our management isn't stupid enough to even entertain melo. They are getting quick a chuckle reading your campaign

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Who is Melo supposed to be playing team ball with? 3 ppg A'mare? Raymond Felton? JR Smith can fill it up when he's hot but he's one of the streakiest players alive. We've seen him win Golds with the Olympic teams and happily give the ball up and play team ball when he has good teammates. He made it to the WCF when he had Billups and a healthy Nene next to him. Give him good players to play with and he adapts. HE is doing it all in NY because that is what he is being forced to do.

You're fading. You're getting very sleepy. When I snap my fingers you will wake up and remove the goobers from your nose, wipe them on your Carmelo Anthony jersey, and begin cheering the Blazers' 10-2 record. (SNAP)

 

[ponderguy]

You're fading. You're getting very sleepy. When I snap my fingers you will wake up and remove the goobers from your nose, wipe them on your Carmelo Anthony jersey, and begin cheering the Blazers' 10-2 record. (SNAP)

AMn all this arguing has gotten past the point of the whole deal. Heres to Dame dropping 30 on Rose tonight

 

[ponderguy]

I really want Bargs

 

[magnifier661]

I really want Bargs

Any fan that wants bargs can't be a fan!

 

[StumptownHoliday]

Here's where Melo puts my needle:

 

[Strenuus]

I really want Bargs

Yeah. He'd be good on the wolves along side Love. He'd be good for your team.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Lets get real Bob Whitsitt 2000 Blazers team was a fantasy team. That team was so stacked with players. Now that was a fun team to watch!

 

[riverman]

Team basketball > iso basketball

This is pure truth!

 

[BigGameDamian]

Team basketball > iso basketball

But it doesn't always work that way in the playoffs though. Playoff sports is live or die and you need your stars more than role players. Specially the way these NBA refs work.

 

[Draco]

But it doesn't always work that way in the playoffs though. Playoff sports is live or die and you need your stars more than role players. Specially the way these NBA refs work.

The Spurs work.

 

[Run BJM]

The Spurs work.

They're excellent moving the ball, but Duncan and Parker can still murder their guys one on one. Ginobili used to be able to as well. They're also really good on defense when they need to be.

 

[blue9]

CJ for Noah!
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=o5h4hyw

 

[ponderguy]

Carmelo would be a benefit to this team!

 

[H.C.]

not interested in any player that is going to demand the ball and limit the production of the best power forward in the league.
players that complement please, not players that want to play to stop so they can jack a shot up.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Joakim Noah would definitely move the needle.

 

[ripcityboy]

Trades that move the needle are very complicated. The team doesn't get free agents so getting that RIGHT player
takes some time. And we don't TANK seasons like some teams do. So our drafts can be good or bad.
I like what Oshey did this year. He did a small number of moves that directly helped the team. He didn't put Lamarcus
on the block for some super pick ahead in the future. Keeping Lamarcus here is a big key to our future.

 

[Draco]

Joakim Noah would definitely move the needle.

For sure. He is a much better player than Melo.

 

[Draco]

Great quote after tonights loss from Amare on why Melo is a terrible teammate

“Move the ball. Start playing with one another. Until we figure that part out, there are going to be a lot of nights like this.”

“It’s hard for any player to get into a good rhythm when the ball don’t move. I’ve been playing my entire career where the ball moves and everybody end up having a career year. When the ball don’t move, guys can’t get into a rhythm. They don’t touch the ball often enough to get into a rhythm, and it makes it tough for the rest of the teammates to have fun out there. Right now, we’re not having fun. The ball’s not moving. The way we’re playing, one pass, one shot. Teams that move the ball wins, teams that don’t lose. It’s pretty simple.

“My frustration level is at an all-time high at this point. I worked my butt off to get in top shape to be able to compete at a high level. To work that hard and to be losing at this point, it’s not a great feeling.”

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/1...demire-rips-knicks-for-lack-of-ball-movement/

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Great quote after tonights loss from Amare on why Melo is a terrible teammate

Holy CRAP! That's as direct and blatant of a call-out of a teammate as I've seen in a LONG time.

 

[mook]

Well, clearly Amare feels the trade would move the needle.

 

[Eastoff]

Well, clearly Amare feels the trade would move the needle.

addition by subtraction.

 

[Natebishop3]

I really want Bargs

I realize this gif is about Bargs, but I couldn't help noticing that three Spurs were wide open while Leonard decided to go 1 on 5.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I really want Bargs

Yeah, because you can never have too many overpaid players that suck.

That seems to be the entire strategy behind the 3-10 Knicks roster. Why on earth do you keep suggesting that the 13-2 Blazers trading with the 3-10 Knicks is a good idea? The Knicks are 3-10 because their players suck. Adding players that suck to our roster does not make us better. If Melo and Bargs are so great, why are the Knicks 3-10?

BNM

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah, because you can never have too many overpaid players that suck.

That seems to be the entire strategy behind the 3-10 Knicks roster. Why on earth do you keep suggesting that the 13-2 Blazers trading with the 3-10 Knicks is a good idea? The Knicks are 3-10 because their players suck. Adding players that suck to our roster does not make us better. If Melo and Bargs are so great, why are the Knicks 3-10?

BNM

Well, to be fair, Melo did lead the Nuggets to the WCF at least once (twice?). He's capable of being the best player on a winning team, but his ego is just ridiculous.